Dick Cheney warned about another Pearl Harbor if Kerry got elected

[Derek]

I'll never forget when he went to Hawaii a week before the 2004 election and warned about another Pearl Harbor if Kerry got elected.

[cpeeks]

Um so im guessing he just forgot about the whole 9/11 thing that happened on the Bush/Cheney watch, lololololololol.

[Bo]

I'll never forget when he went to Hawaii a week before the 2004 election and warned about another Pearl Harbor if Kerry got elected.

I wish Gore would have warned the American people in 2000 about another Pearl Harbor if Bush was elected.

[cpeeks]

Yes me too.

[Derek]

It would've looked absurd though before and after.

[cpeeks]

No more than Cheneys statement after 9/11 happened under there watch.

[Derek]

No more than Cheneys statement after 9/11 happened under there watch.

Which statements? There was not another attack after 9/11 until Fort Hood.

[sentinel]

I'll never forget when he went to Hawaii a week before the 2004 election and warned about another Pearl Harbor if Kerry got elected.

So, if Kerry were elected the Japanese would have made an amendment to their Constitution, striking Article 9 --perhaps reinstate the divinity of the Emperor and restore his Holiness to power, then they would proceed to build up military forces and make a kamikaze airstrike on Pearl Harbor due to an oil embargo against Japan from the United States. Realistic.

[cpeeks]

No more than Cheneys statement after 9/11 happened under there watch.

Which statements? There was not another attack after 9/11 until Fort Hood.

Thats what I said Genius, Cheneys statement about Pearl Harbor looks absurd considering 9/11 happened under there watch.

[Derek]

No more than Cheneys statement after 9/11 happened under there watch.

Which statements? There was not another attack after 9/11 until Fort Hood.

Thats what I said Genius, Cheneys statement about Pearl Harbor looks absurd considering 9/11 happened under there watch.

Only because Bush didn't have time to build up our security systems and didn't know 9/11 was coming.

[cpeeks]

Really he knew it for nine months.

[Derek]

Really he knew it for nine months.

And there were really no signs about that happening. One piece of paper in the summer of 2001 wouldn't have swayed anyone prior to those towers falling.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Really he knew it for nine months.

And there were really no signs about that happening. One piece of paper in the summer of 2001 wouldn't have swayed anyone prior to those towers falling.

So why are you blaming Clinton for doing exactly as you just said Bush had every reason to do?

[Derek]

Really he knew it for nine months.

And there were really no signs about that happening. One piece of paper in the summer of 2001 wouldn't have swayed anyone prior to those towers falling.

So why are you blaming Clinton for doing exactly as you just said Bush had every reason to do?

I blame Clinton for alot of things. What exactly do you mean? Ignoring intelligence reports? Domestic spying?

[Bo]

Really he knew it for nine months.

And there were really no signs about that happening. One piece of paper in the summer of 2001 wouldn't have swayed anyone prior to those towers falling.

So why are you blaming Clinton for doing exactly as you just said Bush had every reason to do?

I blame Clinton for alot of things. What exactly do you mean? Ignoring intelligence reports? Domestic spying?

He means that you're blaming Clinton for being unprepared for 9/11, while you say it's OK for Bush to ahve been unprepared.

[Derek]

Really he knew it for nine months.

And there were really no signs about that happening. One piece of paper in the summer of 2001 wouldn't have swayed anyone prior to those towers falling.

So why are you blaming Clinton for doing exactly as you just said Bush had every reason to do?

I blame Clinton for alot of things. What exactly do you mean? Ignoring intelligence reports? Domestic spying?

He means that you're blaming Clinton for being unprepared for 9/11, while you say it's OK for Bush to ahve been unprepared.

I'm not only blaming Clinton. Alot of his policies made us ripe for an attack though. Bush being in office I know is a talking point for the left but talking points don't really get anything done. I can't stand it when people here just use talking points.

[cpeeks]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

[Derek]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

[cpeeks]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

You blame Clinton for 9/11 yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack, you cant have it both ways dude.  And just because your qualified doesnt mean your going to do a job.

[Derek]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

You blame Clinton for 9/11 yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack, you cant have it both ways dude.  And just because your qualified doesnt mean your going to do a job.

He's done better than anyone to come after him. I wish he would've pursued Saddam Hussein though.

[cpeeks]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

You blame Clinton for 9/11 yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack, you cant have it both ways dude.  And just because your qualified doesnt mean your going to do a job.

He's done better than anyone to come after him. I wish he would've pursued Saddam Hussein though.

Bush sr in his autobiography said the reason he didnt take  out Saddam was it would have created an imbalance of power between the sunni and shiite nations throughout the mideast, created a power vacuum through out Iraq, and U.S. forces would be seen as bitter occupiers in a hostile enviroment with no exit strategey. WOW REALLY? Kinda like whats going on there now!!! All in all it would be a dumb idea.

[Derek]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

You blame Clinton for 9/11 yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack, you cant have it both ways dude.  And just because your qualified doesnt mean your going to do a job.

He's done better than anyone to come after him. I wish he would've pursued Saddam Hussein though.

Bush sr in his autobiography said the reason he didnt take  out Saddam was it would have created an imbalance of power between the sunni and shiite nations throughout the mideast, created a power vacuum through out Iraq, and U.S. forces would be seen as bitter occupiers in a hostile enviroment with no exit strategey. WOW REALLY? Kinda like whats going on there now!!! All in all it would be a dumb idea.

Yes I've read all of that. He's entitled to that thought. I have alot of respect for the man from his WWII service, success in the oil industry, organizing the GOP, negotiating with China and the UN, directing our intelligence, being VP, and commanding our troops while governing our nation. He is a real American hero.

[Bo]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

You blame Clinton for 9/11 yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack, you cant have it both ways dude.  And just because your qualified doesnt mean your going to do a job.

He's done better than anyone to come after him. I wish he would've pursued Saddam Hussein though.

Bush sr in his autobiography said the reason he didnt take  out Saddam was it would have created an imbalance of power between the sunni and shiite nations throughout the mideast, created a power vacuum through out Iraq, and U.S. forces would be seen as bitter occupiers in a hostile enviroment with no exit strategey. WOW REALLY? Kinda like whats going on there now!!! All in all it would be a dumb idea.

Yes I've read all of that. He's entitled to that thought. I have alot of respect for the man from his WWII service, success in the oil industry, organizing the GOP, negotiating with China and the UN, directing our intelligence, being VP, and commanding our troops while governing our nation. He is a real American hero.

You're missing his point. cpeeks said that it's unfair to blame 9/11 on Clinton yet not blame the Twin Towers bombing attempt in 1993 on Bush Sr., since Clinton was in office for only a month when it happened, while Bush Jr. was in office for eight months when 9/11 happened.

[Derek]

But yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack it happened barely a month after Clinton took office. Dude you cant have it both ways, quit talkilking out of both sides of your mouth.

What about Bush Sr.? He was the most qualified individual to ever hold that office.

You blame Clinton for 9/11 yet you dont blame Bush Sr. for the first trade center attack, you cant have it both ways dude.  And just because your qualified doesnt mean your going to do a job.

He's done better than anyone to come after him. I wish he would've pursued Saddam Hussein though.

Bush sr in his autobiography said the reason he didnt take  out Saddam was it would have created an imbalance of power between the sunni and shiite nations throughout the mideast, created a power vacuum through out Iraq, and U.S. forces would be seen as bitter occupiers in a hostile enviroment with no exit strategey. WOW REALLY? Kinda like whats going on there now!!! All in all it would be a dumb idea.

Yes I've read all of that. He's entitled to that thought. I have alot of respect for the man from his WWII service, success in the oil industry, organizing the GOP, negotiating with China and the UN, directing our intelligence, being VP, and commanding our troops while governing our nation. He is a real American hero.

You're missing his point. cpeeks said that it's unfair to blame 9/11 on Clinton yet not blame the Twin Towers bombing attempt in 1993 on Bush Sr., since Clinton was in office for only a month when it happened, while Bush Jr. was in office for eight months when 9/11 happened.

I blame Al-Qaida for 9/11. Clinton's policies allowed for them to plot and plan without being caught. Although Clinton did authorize spying on US citizens. Without being familiar with Bush's policies as I did not go back that far, I will not blame him for the first Twin Tower attack.

[cpeeks]

Ok let see if I understand this you disagree with Bush sr, probabaly one of the best foreign policy presidents weve ever had, on why he didnt take out Saddam?