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« on: November 01, 2004, 11:51:31 pm »
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I've been trying to tell everybody this!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17111-2004Nov1.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2004, 11:59:18 pm »
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Fishpal, from that article where did you get that thought?  It's the Post!!! Almost like the Times.

No doom and gloom, that's the territory of Kerry.  Oh yeah...who was the doofas that ran a poll on how the Bin Laden tape would affect the election?  Kerry.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2004, 12:02:35 am »
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"Bush's aides predicted victory when talking on the record, pointing to polls showing that the race remained a tossup, both nationally and in key states. But despite the insistence that all was well, the erosion in the moods of Bush's inner circle over the past two weeks was unmistakable. Several of his close advisers said they were concerned because the president had achieved no last-minute momentum, and Democratic turnout was looking as if it might swamp the Bush-Cheney campaign's projections.

A GOP official who is privy to Bush-Cheney strategy and polling said that as the incumbent, Bush should be further ahead of Kerry in polls. "Some of them have been moving in the right direction, but it isn't enough," the official said. "Karl [Rove] is a big believer in the bandwagon effect, but there has been nothing over the past week for the president to use it to turn it around."

I'm not saying it couldn't potentially be true, but when a paper quotes "sources" without naming names, saying "they are close to the campaign" or "close advisors", my red suspicion light goes off immediately, especially when its the Washington Post.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2004, 12:03:43 am »
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A GOP official who is privy to Bush-Cheney strategy and polling = My pet cat, Mittens.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2004, 12:13:01 am »
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Fishpal, from that article where did you get that thought?  It's the Post!!! Almost like the Times.

No doom and gloom, that's the territory of Kerry.  Oh yeah...who was the doofas that ran a poll on how the Bin Laden tape would affect the election?  Kerry.

WaPo was pro-Iraq war
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2004, 12:21:48 am »
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Fishpal, from that article where did you get that thought?  It's the Post!!! Almost like the Times.

No doom and gloom, that's the territory of Kerry.  Oh yeah...who was the doofas that ran a poll on how the Bin Laden tape would affect the election?  Kerry.

WaPo was pro-Iraq war

So was Kerry...I think
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2004, 12:23:22 am »
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Fishpal, from that article where did you get that thought?  It's the Post!!! Almost like the Times.

No doom and gloom, that's the territory of Kerry.  Oh yeah...who was the doofas that ran a poll on how the Bin Laden tape would affect the election?  Kerry.

WaPo was pro-Iraq war

So was Kerry...I think

I don't know?  Let's see, it's Tuesday... .
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2004, 12:34:07 am »
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This article strikes me as being legit.

This election is going to be very, very close.   And if you believe in "the Incumbent Rule", Bush is sitting at 48.X% right now.... headed straight for tiesville.

At any rate, I suspect that the comments are legit, but that the Post reporter simply heard what he wanted to hear.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2004, 12:35:49 am »
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A GOP official who is privy to Bush-Cheney strategy and polling = My pet cat, Mittens.

Did Mittens release a projection, too?

I don't like Lucky's prediction, so I'm desperate for some good news here.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2004, 12:59:45 am »
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   Neither campaign senses defeat.   They just expect a sleepless night. And both campaigns are bracing for the possiblity one candidate will not concede the election by Wednesday morning.

     Two judges knocked down Republican hopes of challenging voters at the polls in Ohio.    That'll at least make Kerry's victory in Ohio come quickly.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2004, 01:03:00 am »
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     Two judges knocked down Republican hopes of challenging voters at the polls in Ohio.    That'll at least make Kerry's victory in Ohio come quickly.

I heard the opposite; the Republican challenges were successful and they can have poll watchers at the voting sites.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2004, 01:58:47 am »
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A GOP official who is privy to Bush-Cheney strategy and polling = My pet cat, Mittens.

Did Mittens release a projection, too?

I don't like Lucky's prediction, so I'm desperate for some good news here.

I don't have a cat, but most reporters and marketing people own cats and name them Mittens.  Cats named Mittens are known to be the most accurate focus groups for marketing.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2004, 02:02:41 am »
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   Neither campaign senses defeat.   They just expect a sleepless night. And both campaigns are bracing for the possiblity one candidate will not concede the election by Wednesday morning.

I agree.  Both candidates realize that this race could go either way today.  I think it's really foolish to be putting much stock in stories suggesting that one candidate or another is sensing defeat.  None of the candidates will be sensing defeat until they're defeated.
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2004, 02:24:28 am »
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None of the candidates will be sensing defeat until they're defeated.

And perhaps not even then.
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2004, 02:58:31 am »
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Yeah, we can all agree on one thing: Bush will never win another presidential election.
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 10:33:06 am »
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This is almost as funny as the other thread.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2004, 12:36:27 pm »
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What were you trying to tell everyone again, my pet troll?
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2004, 08:05:08 pm »
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almost as good as the other thread......not quite though
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2004, 08:20:14 pm »
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Listen, I am a Bush fan and I was sensing defeat, too. Except I was sensing defeat for a certain Senator from Massachusetts.
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2004, 08:36:20 pm »
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Who Ted Kennedy?
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2004, 09:21:13 pm »
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Who Ted Kennedy?

No that other guy. John something...
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And you're a fucking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2004, 01:53:27 am »
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Who Ted Kennedy?

No that other guy. John something...

I think his name was um, John Kucinich?
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2004, 09:32:30 pm »
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No, I think Edwin.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2004, 04:47:09 pm »
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This is almost as funny as the other thread.
It's better: the other thread just makes fun of fish, this one also points out what hacks some of the pundits at the WaPo are.
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2004, 08:15:10 pm »
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Yeah, we can all agree on one thing: Bush will never win another presidential election.


Yeah, we can all agree on one thing: George W. Bush will never win another presidential election.

there is Jeb, and a whole whack of yonger Bushes you know...
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