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« on: July 09, 2010, 11:12:30 AM »
« edited: July 26, 2010, 03:53:04 PM by Bacon King »

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 09:44:49 PM »

I am open to any ideas for improvement that may be out there, this is just to get the ball rolling on the issue.


Of course with this Senate I expect very little to be done to it. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 07:35:31 AM »

Unless anyone has anything to add, this is due for a final vote in four hours. Amendments, anybody?
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 07:54:45 AM »

Friendly amendment, actually, to change the text of the bill to the following:

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Gives the experts making the decisions a bit more discretion.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 07:05:25 PM »

Amendment accepted as friendly.



This Senate sucks!!!

I could legalize murder and no one would comment.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 10:02:48 PM »

I'm pleased to see Charleston displayed in this bill.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 10:04:12 PM »

What about Hawaii?
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 10:09:06 PM »


Yes, Senator Cynicism from the Dirty South left out the great state of Hawaii on purpose, and it almost didn't even get mentioned, justifying the Senators growing cynicism and depression about the state of affairs in general.


Its at great distance from Alaska and the West Coast? How should we dispense with the 50th state?
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 10:14:03 PM »


Yes, Senator Cynicism from the Dirty South left out the great state of Hawaii on purpose, and it almost didn't even get mentioned, justifying the Senators growing cynicism and depression about the state of affairs in general.


Its at great distance from Alaska and the West Coast? How should we dispense with the 50th state?

Lump it together with other territories like Guam and American Samoa and create a Pacific branch.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 10:29:21 PM »

Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands needs to be added into one of them as well.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2010, 11:02:58 PM »

Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands needs to be added into one of them as well.

The Gulf of Mexico, but definitely it needs to be established how far our jurisdiction is.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 03:15:38 PM »

Guys, note the amended bill. I think it's best we leave the specifics of the zones and such, which are susceptible to change with changing circumstances anyway, to the DOIA specifically. I'm not sure any drilling even exists off Hawaii or Puerto Rico or anything.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 06:31:15 PM »

Yes, I didn't notice it at first but 1B solves the problem.

When can we proceed to final vote?
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 06:58:44 PM »

I would like to offer the following amendment:

The National Offshore Protection Act
1) All offshore oil drilling and production shall cease production by December 31st, 2010.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 07:02:19 PM »

That amendment is hostile to the purpose of this legislation and far removed from the purpose and intent with which it was proposed. I beleive it would be far better suited as stand alone legislation.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 07:04:44 PM »

That amendment is hostile to the purpose of this legislation and far removed from the purpose and intent with which it was proposed. I beleive it would be far better suited as stand alone legislation.

It's protection of the shore, no? I believe it at least deserves an up or down vote.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 07:56:50 PM »

That amendment is hostile to the purpose of this legislation and far removed from the purpose and intent with which it was proposed. I beleive it would be far better suited as stand alone legislation.

Bgwah's amendment must be allowed to be debated, because the OSPR only allows an amendment to be withdrawn by the Senate's Presiding Officer if he finds that it is "functionally impractical, is frivolous, or is directly unconstitutional"; I don't see how it is any of the three.

We're now debating Bgwah's amendment, errybody, for the next 72 hours or until debate on it has ceased for a full day (whichever comes first).
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 07:58:53 PM »

Oh, and while we're talking about amendments, just a reminder that as 24 hours has elapsed since NCYankee's acceptance of my friendly amendment, the bill has been modified.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 08:09:14 PM »

Good grief, I was just stating why I opposed the amendment. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2010, 08:13:29 PM »

Good grief, I was just stating why I opposed the amendment. Roll Eyes

My apologies; I quickly skimmed through your post and seriously misread the "removed" part.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 08:21:25 PM »

I wonder how much this Senate seat will fetch on Ebay.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2010, 10:13:18 PM »
« Edited: July 13, 2010, 10:15:02 PM by Bacon King »

I wonder how much this Senate seat will fetch on Ebay.

Not sure, but I can direct you to a former governor from Illinois who has some e perience on the subject Tongue

(really, though, sorry if I was excessively harsh above. I'm sick at the moment and my meds are making me feel pretty wonky)
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 07:46:35 PM »

Since 24 hours has passed since relevant debate, it is time to vote on the following amendment to this bill, as proposed by Senator Bgwah.

Senators, please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2010, 07:51:30 PM »

While a ban to be set into effect in the longer term would be commendable, a five month window would be impractical for a number of reasons. I also think this would be better dealt with as separate legislation anyway, as this bill would be very helpful in the short term while our country is still dependent on fossil fuel.

So, nay.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2010, 05:02:42 AM »

Nay
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