I've had enough of the Israel-bashing

[k-onmmunist]

Seriously guys. Enough already.

Certain posters, Libertas being the best example but also with other posters such as FallenMorgan and BRTD have taken a completely one sided view of this. Everytime Palestinians are killed, the cliche left wing or libertarian types immediately cry out about 'Zionist oppression' and 'Israeli apartheid'. Yet, when Palestinian rockets fall on Israeli villages and children are murdered, they don't even care. They vary in their reasons why.

Israel has constantly tried to make peace with the Arab nations surrounding it. It was even willing to give up territory for peace, as it did with Egypt when it returned the Sinai in return for a simple peace treaty. However, Arab countries with help from countries such as Cuba and North Korea, have refused to even contemplate the idea of negotiating with Israel. Instead, they launched wars against Israel for their own nationalist causes.

I hate to put it so frankly, but the Arabs do not give a toss about the Palestinians. In the Arab countries, Palestinians are treated like dirt. They are basically second class citizens. So clearly, altruism isn't the Arabs reasons for supporting Palestine. Which can only leave the conclusion that they are hostile to the existence of a Jewish state in the region and wish to wipe it out. But nevertheless, there is no Palestinian resentment against Arab countries.

Certain posters such as Rochembeau and benconstine have stood up for Israel. But not nearly enough had. So I have to ask: Why? I'm sorry if my tone seems blunt, but I'm sick of the hypocrisy of the left and of libertarianism when it comes to this issue.

[k-onmmunist]

Kinda funny how you're supposedly a commie now but you're still deeply in love with the racist imperialist apartheid state of 'Israel'.

Thanks for ignoring the point. And  guess who supported the creation of Israel?

The USSR.

[k-onmmunist]

1. No, I'm not back on the right wing. I just hate Trots and other left wing 'hip' student idiots who think Palestine is always right
2. Umm, Israel has constantly tried to compromise. You're just reverting to cliche one liners now.
3. LOL. If someone oppresses you, you resent them. That's how it works. Unless you're Palestinian clearly.
4. No, it's just that more people need to realise Israel, though not always right, is doing its damned best and most of the blame lies with the Arabs.

[k-onmmunist]

They supported it at the time. So, unless Stalin isn't a communist, your argument doesn't work.

Also, I don't see why supporting a Jewish homeland and supporting the overthrow of capitalism are incompatible.

[k-onmmunist]

I don't change my ideology every week. Stop dodging the topic.

[k-onmmunist]

I don't know how anyone can defend Israel.

Quite easily. It's defending Palestine, and worse yet, the Arab regimes that refuse to recognise Israel no matter what that are indefendable.

[k-onmmunist]

I'm pro-life, but i think Israel should be nuked.

So in other words, you've combined an awful view with a completely anti-Semitic and stupid one.