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Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl
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« on: July 10, 2010, 04:51:58 PM »

Kinda funny how you're supposedly a commie now but you're still deeply in love with the racist imperialist apartheid state of 'Israel'.
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 04:59:31 PM »

Seriously guys. Enough already.

Certain posters, Libertas being the best example but also with other posters such as FallenMorgan and BRTD have taken a completely one sided view of this. Everytime Palestinians are killed, the cliche left wing or libertarian types immediately cry out about 'Zionist oppression' and 'Israeli apartheid'. Yet, when Palestinian rockets fall on Israeli villages and children are murdered, they don't even care. They vary in their reasons why.

So are you back on the "right wing" then?

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LOL no. 'Israel' is the aggressor, occupying what is rightfully Palestinian land. They are in no position to be dictating the terms of 'peace'.

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Why should Palestinians resent other Arab nations, who are not occupying their land, rather than Zionists, who are certainly occupying their and?

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Uh, right, Roch and constine are the balanced ones, their only problem is not they're not fanatically devoted to Zionism enough for you? Shocked
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 05:09:14 PM »

Kinda funny how you're supposedly a commie now but you're still deeply in love with the racist imperialist apartheid state of 'Israel'.

Thanks for ignoring the point. And  guess who supported the creation of Israel?

The USSR.

Right, that lasted long. The USSR was strongly anti-Zionist for much of it's early history until the 1940s when for a few years Stalin supported the creation of 'Israel'. Then Stalin himself broke off relations with 'Israel', anti-Semitism grew rampant in the USSR, and by the mid-50s, the Soviets were consistently supporting the Arabs over 'Israel' and attacking Zionism as racism and imperialism.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 05:17:13 PM »

They supported it at the time. So, unless Stalin isn't a communist, your argument doesn't work.

Also, I don't see why supporting a Jewish homeland and supporting the overthrow of capitalism are incompatible.
Well Stalin himself ended up opposing 'Israel', and the USSR was anti-Zionist for the rest of it's existence, so using a snapshot of 1948, when Stalin was expecting 'Israel' to be a socialist state throwing off the yoke of British imperialism, doesn't make too much sense.

Anyway, I don't really care enough to debate the point, but it's just funny to see that there are some issues you refuse to give up no matter how bizarre they are in the context of your new ideology of the week.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 08:26:58 PM »

LOL no. 'Israel' is the aggressor, occupying what is rightfully Palestinian land. They are in no position to be dictating the terms of 'peace'.

Why should Palestinians resent other Arab nations, who are not occupying their land, rather than Zionists, who are certainly occupying their and?

Glass house much?

Glass house? Would you like to abolish the U.S. regime too?
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 08:40:45 PM »

LOL no. 'Israel' is the aggressor, occupying what is rightfully Palestinian land. They are in no position to be dictating the terms of 'peace'.

Why should Palestinians resent other Arab nations, who are not occupying their land, rather than Zionists, who are certainly occupying their and?
Glass house much?
Glass house? Would you like to abolish the U.S. regime too?

No, neither.  But if you're going to bash occupying others' land, I'd start with the place you live.

Well in case you haven't noticed, I do plenty of bashing of the State under which I live too. Wink


However I would argue that 'Israel' is in fact an outgrowth of the U.S. Empire as well.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2010, 09:33:03 PM »

LOL no. 'Israel' is the aggressor, occupying what is rightfully Palestinian land. They are in no position to be dictating the terms of 'peace'.

Why should Palestinians resent other Arab nations, who are not occupying their land, rather than Zionists, who are certainly occupying their and?
Glass house much?
Glass house? Would you like to abolish the U.S. regime too?
No, neither.  But if you're going to bash occupying others' land, I'd start with the place you live.
Well in case you haven't noticed, I do plenty of bashing of the State under which I live too. Wink

However I would argue that 'Israel' is in fact an outgrowth of the U.S. Empire as well.

True, so why blame them if it's our own doing and you live in your society thanks to those very tactics?

Qui tacet consentit.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 12:52:49 PM »


"Give me billions of dollars per year no questions asked and for no rational reason or I'll wipe out six million Arabs" is blackmail and a threat to commit genocide. Just sayin'.

I don't think Israel ever made those kinds of threats. They sure didn't in 1963 when JFK planned to cut aid to them, or in 1975, or in 1991.

Why would that be necessary? Kennedy would be taken out before the year was through.
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