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Bacon King
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« on: July 10, 2010, 10:59:03 PM »
« edited: July 25, 2010, 10:25:35 PM by Bacon King »
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Bill Slot: 5
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 11:22:21 PM »
Why not just make the buyer pay the sales tax from the state of the seller? Actually, for precedence on this matter, if I were to buy something from a mail-order catalog based in another state, what sales tax (if any) would I pay? Internet sales tax should sync with standard interstate sales laws.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 11:44:08 PM »
Relevant info: http://www.newrules.org/retail/rules/internet-sales-tax-fairness

Can someone type up an amendment and offer it as friendly? My head is too confused as to how to define "nexus" appropriately.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 07:32:56 AM »
Quote from: Bacon King on July 10, 2010, 11:44:08 PM
Relevant info: http://www.newrules.org/retail/rules/internet-sales-tax-fairness

Can someone type up an amendment and offer it as friendly? My head is too confused as to how to define "nexus" appropriately.

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Anyone? It will be accepted as friendly Smiley
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Bacon King
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 03:39:59 PM »
I offer the Vice President's amendment as friendly and accept it. Senators have 24 hours to object.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 03:49:25 PM »
I accept Senator Badger's amendment as friendly.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 03:58:10 PM »
With no objections, the bill has been friendlily amended. The current text of the bill is below.

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Unless anyone has anything else to add this can proceed to a final vote soon.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 06:28:58 PM »
Just realized something here. Do we want to apply this bill to non-internet business that sell across state lines as well, such as mail order catalogs? Because currently they're exempt from sales taxes just like internet business are.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 07:23:59 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on July 15, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
Why are the first $5 million exempt? Is this the case for offline sales?

How do you determine where they pay the sales tax? Where they are actually purchased? So could someone just go from their higher sales tax city to a library in a neighboring lower sales tax city to avoid paying taxes? I suppose this is the case in real life, but this could make a large difference in tax revenue for large purchases. I think the purchaser should pay the sales tax of their residency...

If someone going to a computer at a library the next town over would be an issue, surely someone spending ten dollars to open a PO Box the next town over would be just as big of an issue, no?
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Bacon King
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 11:52:42 AM »
Amendment offered and accepted as friendly; Senators have 24 hours to object.

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I think this covers everything. I'd be sympathetic to removing section three entirely (most jurisdictions don't tax food anyway) but I'm fearful of providing too much of a shock to smaller internet businesses that aren't accustomed to a tax.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2010, 07:18:03 PM »
Without objection the bill has been modified as above. Also, due to the complete lack of debate, I'll go ahead and move this to a final vote. Senators, please vote aye, nay, or abstain.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 07:20:29 PM »
AYE
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Bacon King
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 01:55:52 PM »
« Edited: July 20, 2010, 02:16:38 PM by Bacon King »
This is just a notice; the vote is still ongoing...

Senators voting aye: Bacon King, Franzl, Badger (3)
Senators voting nay: NCYankee, Libertas, Hans-im-Glück (3)
Senators yet to vote: The other four
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Bacon King
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 07:51:03 PM »
This is just a notice; the vote is still ongoing...

Senators voting aye: Bacon King, Franzl, Badger (3)
Senators voting nay: NCYankee, Libertas, Hans-im-Glück, Bullmoose (4)
Senators yet to vote: The other three
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Bacon King
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 04:36:01 PM »
« Edited: July 22, 2010, 04:37:34 PM by Bacon King »
bump...
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Bacon King
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2010, 04:45:05 PM »
This is just a notice; the vote is still ongoing...

Senators voting aye: Bacon King, Franzl, Badger (3)
Senators voting nay: NCYankee, Libertas, Hans-im-Glück, Bullmoose (4)
Senators abstaining: bgwah (1)

Senators yet to vote: Dallasfan65, AHDuke (2)
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Bacon King
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2010, 10:19:48 PM »
This bill has the votes to fail; Senators have 24 hours to
change their votes.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2010, 10:23:48 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2010, 10:25:22 PM by Bacon King »
After 24 hours, the final vote tally is as follows:

Senators voting aye: Bacon King, Franzl, Badger, Hans-im-Glück, AHDuke (5)
Senators voting nay: NCYankee, Libertas, Bullmoose, Dallasfan65 (4)
Senators abstaining: bgwah (1)

It is hereby presented to the President.
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