Immigration Maps

[Bo]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/10/us/20090310-immigration-explorer.html

I'm surprised there's almost no data for the South in 1950 and 1960. I wonder why.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

looks like Cleveland is one of the few cities where Eastern Europe immigrants hadn't been overtaken as the largest group by Latin Americans as of 2000

[Bo]

looks like Cleveland is one of the few cities where Eastern Europe immigrants hadn't been overtaken as the largest group by Latin Americans as of 2000

That is pretty interesting. Though to be more accurate, the blue stands for Central and Eastern Europe (so Germany is included). I think that will change by 2010 (or 2020 at the latest) though.

[jimrtex]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/10/us/20090310-immigration-explorer.html

I'm surprised there's almost no data for the South in 1950 and 1960. I wonder why.

It is interesting the number of German-born who show up in place like Fort Sill, Fort Hood, Fort Bragg, Fort Bliss, Fort Carson, Fort Benning

[Bo]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/10/us/20090310-immigration-explorer.html

I'm surprised there's almost no data for the South in 1950 and 1960. I wonder why.

It is interesting the number of German-born who show up in place like Fort Sill, Fort Hood, Fort Bragg, Fort Bliss, Fort Carson, Fort Benning

Maybe many Germans worked for the military?

[phk]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/10/us/20090310-immigration-explorer.html

I'm surprised there's almost no data for the South in 1950 and 1960. I wonder why.

It is interesting the number of German-born who show up in place like Fort Sill, Fort Hood, Fort Bragg, Fort Bliss, Fort Carson, Fort Benning

Maybe many Germans worked for the military?

Its possible a lot of military brats were born in Germany

[Verily]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/10/us/20090310-immigration-explorer.html

I'm surprised there's almost no data for the South in 1950 and 1960. I wonder why.

It is interesting the number of German-born who show up in place like Fort Sill, Fort Hood, Fort Bragg, Fort Bliss, Fort Carson, Fort Benning

Maybe many Germans worked for the military?

Its possible a lot of military brats were born in Germany

Even likely, given the number of US military stationed there. Curious if Korea also gets a boost on military bases (and Japan).

[Bo]

I'm surprised how much data is left from the 1890 census. I thought almost all that data was destroyed in a fire. Interesting to see there was very little immigration to the U.S. from France at anytime, in contrast to other European countries. Then again, I did read that France's population grew unusually slowly up until about 1950, so that probably explains most of it.

[dead0man]

Even likely, given the number of US military stationed there. Curious if Korea also gets a boost on military bases (and Japan).

Lots of Filipino* and Korean wives.  Not so many Japanese.  The theory is Japan is nice and there is less to "escape" from.  Not that many German, Italian or English wives either even though we have a lot of military there.  Hell, I've known more wives from Panama (2) than I have from Japan, Italy and England combined (1).

All anecdotal of course.

*Less now than 15 years ago of course since we've been gone from there since the early 90s

[memphis]

This would be a lot better with 2010 data. 2000 was a long time ago. We have a lot more than 10,000 mexicans now.

[Storebought]

Interesting to see there was very little immigration to the U.S. from France at anytime, in contrast to other European countries.

The French didn't need US emigration as they already had Algeria.

[Bo]

Interesting to see there was very little immigration to the U.S. from France at anytime, in contrast to other European countries.

The French didn't need US emigration as they already had Algeria.

True, but Algeria sucked in comparison to the U.S. Besides, the French knew they couldn't keep Algeria forever and that once the Arabs regained control, they would have to leave.

[Brittain33]

True, but Algeria sucked in comparison to the U.S.

It was a lot closer to home and had the same government and language. The evidence of where French actually emigrated to between 1830 and WWI would indicate they preferred Algeria.

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The French in Algeria didn't recognize that as late as the 1950s, much less shortly after it was conquered.

[Verily]

True, but Algeria sucked in comparison to the U.S.

It was a lot closer to home and had the same government and language. The evidence of where French actually emigrated to between 1830 and WWI would indicate they preferred Algeria.

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The French in Algeria didn't recognize that as late as the 1950s, much less shortly after it was conquered.

One key difference is that French emigrants to Algeria were generally middle class or better, while it was the poor of the rest of Europe who came to the US. So it doesn't really solve the problem.

Also, the French thought they could demographically overwhelm the Algerians a la Northern Ireland, which they probably would have managed with a few more decades of control.

[Bo]

True, but Algeria sucked in comparison to the U.S.

It was a lot closer to home and had the same government and language. The evidence of where French actually emigrated to between 1830 and WWI would indicate they preferred Algeria.

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The French in Algeria didn't recognize that as late as the 1950s, much less shortly after it was conquered.

One key difference is that French emigrants to Algeria were generally middle class or better, while it was the poor of the rest of Europe who came to the US. So it doesn't really solve the problem.

Also, the French thought they could demographically overwhelm the Algerians a la Northern Ireland, which they probably would have managed with a few more decades of control.

No, the French wouldn't have demographically overwhelmed Algeria if they controlled it for several more decades. Right before the French left, the French composed 10% of the Algerian population, while the natives (primarily Arabs) composed the other 90%. The natives had very high birthrates, and thus their population would have grew by several times in the upcoming decades (as it did in RL). There's no way France could have competed with that, even with large immigration to Algeria. And I'm still thinking the reason for France's lack of large immigration to the U.S. was their unusually slow population growth rate (in comparison to other European countries) before 1950. Many European countries had fast-growing populations, and thus were eager to encourage people to emigrate, while France wanted to keep as much people as possible to prevent population decline.

[??????????]

Why did so many Africans migrate to NC since the 70's? And why wasn't data recorded before then?

[Badlands17]

Why did so many Africans migrate to NC since the 70's? And why wasn't data recorded before then?

African immigrants moved to NC for pretty much the same reason they moved anywhere else; jobs. Most of these people are highly educated, much like today's Asian immigrants, and professional jobs exist in NC on a scale they did not 30-40 years ago.

Immigration from Asia and Africa was restricted to the point of nonexistence from 1924 until 1965.

[ottermax]

The 1890s Chinese population in some areas of the mountain states made up half the populations of several counties, what a shift today...

[Bo]

The 1890s Chinese population in some areas of the mountain states made up half the populations of several counties, what a shift today...

Maybe if the Chinese Exclusion Act was never passed, those counties would still be Chinese majority (or at least have huge Chinese populations) today.