FDR vs. Hoover in 1932 w/out the Depression

[feeblepizza]

The Depression of 1929 is successfully diverted, and the popular President Hoover is challenged in 1932 by Governor Franklin Roosevelt (D-New York). Who wins? I say Hoover:

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

449-82

[Bo]

Does the stock market crash still occur? I'm assuming that it does, but that Hoover does not raise tariffs and increases govt. spending more, thus averting a Depression and having an unemployment of about 8-10% on Election Day 1932.

Here's my map:

Hoover wins 322-209.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Does the stock market crash still occur? I'm assuming that it does, but that Hoover does not raise tariffs and increases govt. spending more, thus averting a Depression and having an unemployment of about 8-10% on Election Day 1932.

Here's my map:

Hoover wins 322-209.

If Smith couldn't win New York, then neither could Roosevelt without the Depression. He wouldn't have won Rhode Island either.

[Bo]

Does the stock market crash still occur? I'm assuming that it does, but that Hoover does not raise tariffs and increases govt. spending more, thus averting a Depression and having an unemployment of about 8-10% on Election Day 1932.

Here's my map:

Hoover wins 322-209.

If Smith couldn't win New York, then neither could Roosevelt without the Depression. He wouldn't have won Rhode Island either.

The author of this thread was being kinda ambiguous by saying that the Great Depression is averted. Does the stock market crash still occur and the economy doesn't become as bad? Or is there no stock market crash in the first place? I assumed there was a stock market crash but that the economy didn't go into a Depression. That said, 8-10% unemployment is still worse than 4-5% unemployment (which was the rate in 1928), and thus I think FDR would get somewhat more support than Smith did. Also, FDR was more charismatic than Smith, and I think that would help FDR win NY and RI.

[feeblepizza]

Does the stock market crash still occur? I'm assuming that it does, but that Hoover does not raise tariffs and increases govt. spending more, thus averting a Depression and having an unemployment of about 8-10% on Election Day 1932.

Here's my map:

Hoover wins 322-209.

If Smith couldn't win New York, then neither could Roosevelt without the Depression. He wouldn't have won Rhode Island either.

The author of this thread was being kinda ambiguous by saying that the Great Depression is averted. Does the stock market crash still occur and the economy doesn't become as bad? Or is there no stock market crash in the first place? I assumed there was a stock market crash but that the economy didn't go into a Depression. That said, 8-10% unemployment is still worse than 4-5% unemployment (which was the rate in 1928), and thus I think FDR would get somewhat more support than Smith did. Also, FDR was more charismatic than Smith, and I think that would help FDR win NY and RI.

Yes, that's what I meant.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Does the stock market crash still occur? I'm assuming that it does, but that Hoover does not raise tariffs and increases govt. spending more, thus averting a Depression and having an unemployment of about 8-10% on Election Day 1932.

Here's my map:

Hoover wins 322-209.

If Smith couldn't win New York, then neither could Roosevelt without the Depression. He wouldn't have won Rhode Island either.

The author of this thread was being kinda ambiguous by saying that the Great Depression is averted. Does the stock market crash still occur and the economy doesn't become as bad? Or is there no stock market crash in the first place? I assumed there was a stock market crash but that the economy didn't go into a Depression. That said, 8-10% unemployment is still worse than 4-5% unemployment (which was the rate in 1928), and thus I think FDR would get somewhat more support than Smith did. Also, FDR was more charismatic than Smith, and I think that would help FDR win NY and RI.

NY and RI were more Republican than the national average even in the real pro-Democrat wave 1932. Why would they be more Democratic than average with a much better economy and in the midst of an incumbent Republican landslide?

The excitement of ethnic Catholics that flipped MA and RI and produced a strong Dem showing in NY in 1928 would not even be there in 1932.

[Mr. Morden]

Dunno how this would play out.  More interesting question would be Hoover vs. Smith in 1928 if Black Tuesday had taken place in October 1928 rather than October 1929.

[Bo]

Dunno how this would play out.  More interesting question would be Hoover vs. Smith in 1928 if Black Tuesday had taken place in October 1928 rather than October 1929.

If that was the case, Hoover would still win due to anti-Catholic bigotry and due to the fact that many people would feel that the GOP would still be able to navigate the country out of a crisis after creating several years of prosperity. People would still give Hoover the benefit of the doubt if the economy was poor for only a month.