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« on: July 19, 2010, 08:36:06 AM »

The Date is June 28th, 1919.

The Germans have the Allies in the palm of their hands, having forced them into armistice. Woodrow Wilson knows he has lost and is trying to lose as little ground as possible.

Map before Treaty of Uşak


Ulrich Graf von Brockdorff-Rantzau is delighted after his nation's victory and wants to grab as much land as possible from the defeated allies.

He lays out the terms before the Allied Powers:

"The Central Powers will receive control of the following lands: South Africa, Australia, and India will come under the power of Germany. 10 other nations will come under the control of the Central Powers."

 

Will Wilson accept these terms? Stay tuned.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 03:18:22 PM »

It's not up to Wilson. Very little of that land is American.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 03:54:24 PM »

Yeah, not happening.

Also, you're going to have to explain the cases of Basutoland and Swaziland.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 04:31:55 PM »

All in good time, my friends, all in good time.

Winston: Woodrow Wilson simply represents the Allied leadership.

And please... suspend your disbelief.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 05:00:15 PM »

The proposed terms make little sense from the Central Power's perspective.

Germany wanted resource rich, but population poor colonies to dominate.

If Germany is going to demand a drastic reassignment of the colonial borders,then in Africa, it's going to go after French Equatorial Africa,the Belgian Congo, British East Africa, Northern Rhodesia, Nyasaland, Walvis Bay, Angola, northern Mozambique, for itself, split off the former Cape Colony from the rest of the South Africa and then hand off Bechuanaland, Southern Rhodesia, Basutoland, Swaziland, and southern Mozambique to a Boer dominated South Africa. Probably would want the Ivory and Gold Coasts for itself in west Africa, as they were two of the few profitable colonies in Africa, but maybe not given all they would want to take control of elsewhere.

I can't imagine the Habsburgs wanting to annex troublesome Italy while leaving the borders in the Balkans unchanged.  (and why the Central Powers take Italy but none of the Italian colonies makes even less sense.)

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 05:04:26 PM »

Would there be a need to split off the Cape? Its white population was also majority Boer, IIRC.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 06:00:16 PM »

Would there be a need to split off the Cape? Its white population was also majority Boer, IIRC.

Possibly. The Central Powers are still looking for more.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 06:21:44 PM »

Would there be a need to split off the Cape? Its white population was also majority Boer, IIRC.

A united South Africa would be more likely to cause problems for Germany than a divided South Africa.  Letting the British retain influence in the Cape would help keep the rest of South Africa in the German orbit.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 04:27:04 PM »

Wilson decides to accept these terms. This is a devastating blow for the Central delegates, who were hoping that they could bargain for more. They leave the conference much much more powerful but disappointed.

Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom city of Chester, plans are being made in a pub on Eastgate Street. At the table sits John Norris Jr, Jules Branson, and George William. He announces that he will join their cause. He announces the formation of the British National Socialist Party (Naso for short), and invites everyone in the bar to join it. They rush to do so, with promises to tell their friends.

The first public rally is held in June, 1923. 3,000 attend the gathering in Birmingham. At this point in time there are more than 400,000 members of the party and it has become a national movement. The group blames Jews for the fall of Great Britain, and announces that it will be fielding candidates in all major British Elections in the 1924 Generals. Leading the ticket is prime ministerial candidate Jules Branson. He announces that he is the working class candidate and only the Naso party can bring real reform to Great Britain.

Stay tuned..
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 01:45:49 PM »

It's September 1924, and the four major parties are getting ready for election day. The popular opinion is seemingly in the Naso's favor, though the Conservatives seem to be in a close second.

The candidates are:

National Socialists: Jules Branson, City of Chester,
Conservatives: Stanley Baldwin, Bewdley
Labour: Ramsay MacDonald, Aberavon
Liberals: H.H. Asquith, Paisley

Public agitation against Labour for forming its first government in January is almost certain to be important. Ancient Asquith is certain to be almost a non-factor.

Stay tuned...
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 04:21:42 PM »

Do you guys like it? I'll be updating tomorrow.
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