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hcallega
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« on: July 26, 2010, 10:48:25 AM »

I am far more confident about who I would support in Italian politics. What party would you guys vote for?
1913: Catholics
1919: Italian People's Party
1921: Italian People's Party
1924: Italian People's Party
1946: Christian Democracy
1948: Christian Democracy
1953: Christian Democracy
1958: Christian Democracy
1963: Christian Democracy
1968: Christian Democracy
1972: Christian Democracy
1976: Christian Democracy
1979: Christian Democracy
1983: Christian Democracy
1987: Christian Democracy
1992: Christian Democracy
1994: Italian People's Party
1996: Italian People's Party
2001: Italian People's Party
2006: Olive Tree
2008: Union of the Center
2010 Regional: Lombardy (Milanese Ancestors): Fillipo Penati

Essentially, my Christian Democratic ideology is the basis for my votes. However, due to the break up of Christian Democracy, there are several parties that would apply. Ultimately I'm center-left (despite my short-time interest in Jacques Chirac) and I would support the center-left Christian Democratic parties. I also find Berlesconi to be a complete windbag, fool, and moral incompetent. Ironically he is the owner of my favorite soccer club (AC Milan).

As you can probably tell by my username, my last name is Italian.
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hcallega
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2010, 12:36:38 PM »

1913-24: Whoever the boss decided to count my vote for
1946: Socialist
1948: Popular Front
1953: Socialist
1958: Socialist
1963: Socialist
1968: Unified Socialist
1972: Communist
1976: Communist
1979: Communist
1983: Communist
1987: Communist
1992: Democratic Party of the Left
1994: Alliance of Progressives
1996: The Olive Tree
2001: The Olive Tree
2006: The Union
2008: Democratic

I can see why your avatar is red lol
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hcallega
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 04:11:50 PM »

 
Post-1945 :

1946 : Pd'A
1948 : US
1953 : PSDI

1958 : PSI
1963 : PSI
1968 : PSU
1972 : PSI
1976 : PSI

1979 : PR
1983 : PR
1987 : PR

1992 : PDS
1994 : PDS
1996 : PDS
2001 : DS

2006 : IdV
2008 : Idv


(I'm not sure of every pick, but that seems the most likely)
I could see you supporting the Republican Party in 1946, as they were essentially the same ideologically as the Action Party, just without the history of being as anti-fascist

The problem with Italian politics is that for the most part between 1946 and 1992 it was Socialists, Communists, and everyone else! Thats why you have so many parties and factions since then.

For those who know very little about Italian Politics, you currently have two major coalitions, the center-right, led by Silvio Berlusconi, and the center-left, led by Bersani. The major center-right party is The People of Freedom, a combination of Forza Italia, led by Berlusconi, and the National Alliance, led by Gianfranco Finni. The Berlesconi Faction is a traditional center-right bloc, supporting social conservatism, self-reliance, and federalism. In many ways they are economically populist, and even draw in some former socialists. The Finni faction is far less socially conservative, more like a French conservative party. They are more or less in line with Liberal Conservatism. The major disagreements in the party are over end of life issues, stem cell research, and the separation of church and state. Finni is to the left of Berlusconi on these issues, even though Berlusconi is no choir boy.

The major party on the center-left is the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is the brainchild of former PM Romano Prodi. It is the natural successor of the Olive Tree Coalition, which was made up of many different center-left political parties. The largest two of these were the Democrats of the Left, a social democratic party, and Democracy is Freedom, a Christian left party. In total, eight parties made up this coalition. Essentially, most of those on the left support this party.

There are three other parties worth mentioning. The Lega Nord is a federalist/nationalist/secessionist party that is very powerful in Northern Italy. As of now they generally agree on creating a federalist Italian state, where each province holds power. On issues outside of Northern Italy, they are center-right. Socially they are conservative, and economically they are generally center-right/populist. However they are somewhat environmentalist. Italy of Values is a rising force in Italian politics. As an anti-corruption and centrist party, they are reinforcing the trend of rising opposition to the corruption that is so common place in Italy. However there is a great deal of factional division between those on the left and those who want to keep the party as a centrist alternative to the Democrats. Finally there is the Union of the Center. They aren't doing so hot lol. Essentially they want to be a catch-all for social conservatives, taking shots at Berlusconi and attempting to peal away Christian Democrats in the Democratic Party. Right now they only do well in Southern Italy, the traditional base of the Christian Democrats (poor, but also very Catholic)
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hcallega
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 04:59:43 PM »


haha you would like Italy. It actually had a lot of communists
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hcallega
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 05:54:17 PM »


haha you would like Italy. It actually had a lot of communists

Yeah, the Italian Communist Party nearly won the first elections after the war, iirc. But they were also the first to go revisionist, so meh.

Yes indeed. But the reasons behind this was primarily opportunistic and as a means to stay politically competitive. Would you have supported the Red Brigades?
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hcallega
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 10:41:31 AM »

Italy had one of the most intelligent communist parties in Europe. Just compare it with the French PCF, which has been ruled by stalinist nutjobs until the 1990s. Actually, I could see myself voting for PCI a couple of times, after 1968.

Well they evolved. Pre-1968 they were Stalinist nutjobs. Post 1968 they were simply communist in ideology, and that's what almost led to the Historic Compromise.
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