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CatoMinor
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« on: August 02, 2010, 01:05:39 AM »

In 2012 Johnson very narrowly defeats Romney/Palin/Gingrich for the GOP nomination and goes on to defeat Obama winning back the youth vote from the Democrats.

2013: Johnson vetos the budget until its balanced, sets record number for first year vetos
2014: GOP makes 1 net gain in the senate, -6 in the house. Marijuana made a states issue, federal laws dealing with it are repealed.
2015: Johnson, out of frustration with the GOP, announces switch to Libertarian Party, and will run for re-election.
2016: Johnson (L) vs Cuomo (D) vs Graham (R)
Johnson's approvals are at 56%. Unemployment is at 5.9% . Troops are for the most part all out of Iraq, and very few remain in Afghanistan. Guantanamo bay is closed and sold back to Cuba. 

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 01:23:53 AM »

If Johnson had really good organization, won the debates, and his opponents were complete flops (considering the candidates, they likely could be)

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Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 01:36:20 AM »
« Edited: August 02, 2010, 01:41:23 AM by Speaker of the Northeast Assembly Han »

1912 all over again.


Cuomo: 452
Graham: 76
Johnson: 10

Johnson needs to not bolt the GOP should he be elected Prez. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 01:39:45 AM »

This would probably be the most hackish map, but I can dream.
With the highish approvals, and the country looking in better shape then he found it, I think he would perform better. Graham's campaign would slowly implode implode as the race came down to Cuomo and Johnson.

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 10:03:34 AM »



I see no reason why a popular President like Johnson would loose reelection just because he runs as a Libertarian. He wins with 294 Electors. Cuomo comes in 2nd with 129 and Graham 3rd with 115.

Also, this is a WONDERFUL scenario, because it would effectivley turn the GOP into a third party!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 12:19:34 PM »
« Edited: August 03, 2010, 12:26:20 PM by Republican95 »

There's one problem...If Johnson leaves the GOP, he loses ALL OF HIS MONEY!!!  Do you think the RNC is going to give money to a candidate that left their party?  NO!!!  And the Libertarian Party doesn't have the necessary apparatus to run a candidate at the national level.  Johnson would have the "media spotlight" due to his incumbency, but if he doesn't have a decent cash flow then how is he suppose to compete in the swing states? 
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 08:15:49 PM »

There's one problem...If Johnson leaves the GOP, he loses ALL OF HIS MONEY!!!  Do you think the RNC is going to give money to a candidate that left their party?  NO!!!  And the Libertarian Party doesn't have the necessary apparatus to run a candidate at the national level.  Johnson would have the "media spotlight" due to his incumbency, but if he doesn't have a decent cash flow then how is he suppose to compete in the swing states? 

David Koch, former Libertarian and founder of the Libertarian party, might switch back and donate heavily to the Libertarian Party (provided that doesn't violate campaign finance laws.)
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Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 08:22:49 PM »

There's one problem...If Johnson leaves the GOP, he loses ALL OF HIS MONEY!!!  Do you think the RNC is going to give money to a candidate that left their party?  NO!!!  And the Libertarian Party doesn't have the necessary apparatus to run a candidate at the national level.  Johnson would have the "media spotlight" due to his incumbency, but if he doesn't have a decent cash flow then how is he suppose to compete in the swing states? 

David Koch, former Libertarian and founder of the Libertarian party, might switch back and donate heavily to the Libertarian Party (provided that doesn't violate campaign finance laws.)

Still, I really doubt Johnson's campaign would be able to outspend the Republican and Democratic establishments, which is why I think the election would be along the lines of 1912.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 08:31:50 PM »

There's one problem...If Johnson leaves the GOP, he loses ALL OF HIS MONEY!!!  Do you think the RNC is going to give money to a candidate that left their party?  NO!!!  And the Libertarian Party doesn't have the necessary apparatus to run a candidate at the national level.  Johnson would have the "media spotlight" due to his incumbency, but if he doesn't have a decent cash flow then how is he suppose to compete in the swing states? 

David Koch, former Libertarian and founder of the Libertarian party, might switch back and donate heavily to the Libertarian Party (provided that doesn't violate campaign finance laws.)

Still, I really doubt Johnson's campaign would be able to outspend the Republican and Democratic establishments, which is why I think the election would be along the lines of 1912.

Well, no. He would have just enough to compete - not to mention other celebrity endorsements Johnson could get as a 3rd party candidate.

Johnson would have to run the table during the debates to get a good amount of EV's, which isn't out of the question, given his opponents.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 09:45:42 PM »

There's one problem...If Johnson leaves the GOP, he loses ALL OF HIS MONEY!!!  Do you think the RNC is going to give money to a candidate that left their party?  NO!!!  And the Libertarian Party doesn't have the necessary apparatus to run a candidate at the national level.  Johnson would have the "media spotlight" due to his incumbency, but if he doesn't have a decent cash flow then how is he suppose to compete in the swing states? 

David Koch, former Libertarian and founder of the Libertarian party, might switch back and donate heavily to the Libertarian Party (provided that doesn't violate campaign finance laws.)


David Koch of Koch Industries?  He's in the oil business...he'll support Ghram.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 07:57:17 PM »

IF he's running as a libertarian and the big corporations think he has a shot at winning he'll get plenty of donations.  After all, its not like we have campaign finance laws anymore.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 01:55:57 PM »

There's one problem...If Johnson leaves the GOP, he loses ALL OF HIS MONEY!!!  Do you think the RNC is going to give money to a candidate that left their party?  NO!!!  And the Libertarian Party doesn't have the necessary apparatus to run a candidate at the national level.  Johnson would have the "media spotlight" due to his incumbency, but if he doesn't have a decent cash flow then how is he suppose to compete in the swing states? 

David Koch, former Libertarian and founder of the Libertarian party, might switch back and donate heavily to the Libertarian Party (provided that doesn't violate campaign finance laws.)


David Koch of Koch Industries?  He's in the oil business...he'll support Ghram.

He ran as the Libertarian candidate for Vice President in 1980.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 09:11:56 PM »

What a hacks...
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 07:18:21 PM »

Oh yeah, and Johnson and Graham plit votes, Cuomo sweeps the election.
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