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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2012, 01:47:27 am »
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Verify workers before they are hired. Increase enforcement to ensure proper verification is happening and of course make e verify available to help businesses and employers comply.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2012, 11:23:57 pm »
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CARL, I'm familiar with the Hibbel decision and how it applies in law enforcement. I'm tired so I'll simply note that your applying it to immigration law, particularly AZ's, is dead wrong as usual. Good night Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2012, 12:11:28 pm »
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Verify workers before they are hired. Increase enforcement to ensure proper verification is happening and of course make e verify available to help businesses and employers comply.

So, if alien s illegally present in this country are employed off the books as drug smugglers, prostitutes, etc, its ok since those lines of business don't use eVerity?
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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2012, 01:18:31 pm »
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Then catch the drug smugglers as you would regularly ( prostitution shouldn't be a crime) and then deport them. The US already departs criminals at high rates and that should continue. Of course the magnitude of the crime should be taken into account as well.
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2012, 03:05:19 pm »

Verify workers before they are hired. Increase enforcement to ensure proper verification is happening and of course make e verify available to help businesses and employers comply.

So, if alien s illegally present in this country are employed off the books as drug smugglers, prostitutes, etc, its ok since those lines of business don't use eVerity?

I do wonder why you keep acting as if the majority of illegals come here to commit other crimes.

Then catch the drug smugglers as you would regularly ( prostitution shouldn't be a crime) and then deport them. The US already departs criminals at high rates and that should continue. Of course the magnitude of the crime should be taken into account as well.

Agreed, and not just prostitution.  We should legalize, regulate, and tax the prostitution and recreational drug industries.  (Not all drugs, but the detrimental side effects from the international drug trade in marijuana, cocaine, and opiods combined with it being more cost effective to treat the use of those drugs as a medical problem rather than a criminal problem mean that I favor legalizing those.)
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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2012, 12:04:44 pm »
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Verify workers before they are hired. Increase enforcement to ensure proper verification is happening and of course make e verify available to help businesses and employers comply.

So, if alien s illegally present in this country are employed off the books as drug smugglers, prostitutes, etc, its ok since those lines of business don't use eVerity?

I do wonder why you keep acting as if the majority of illegals come here to commit other crimes.

Then catch the drug smugglers as you would regularly ( prostitution shouldn't be a crime) and then deport them. The US already departs criminals at high rates and that should continue. Of course the magnitude of the crime should be taken into account as well.

Agreed, and not just prostitution.  We should legalize, regulate, and tax the prostitution and recreational drug industries.  (Not all drugs, but the detrimental side effects from the international drug trade in marijuana, cocaine, and opiods combined with it being more cost effective to treat the use of those drugs as a medical problem rather than a criminal problem mean that I favor legalizing those.)

I never said anhtni ng about a majorityh.

However, a substantial number do commit crimes while illegally in the United States. 

You seem to want to cover up those crimes.
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2012, 12:47:28 pm »

Verify workers before they are hired. Increase enforcement to ensure proper verification is happening and of course make e verify available to help businesses and employers comply.

So, if alien s illegally present in this country are employed off the books as drug smugglers, prostitutes, etc, its ok since those lines of business don't use eVerity?

I do wonder why you keep acting as if the majority of illegals come here to commit other crimes.

Then catch the drug smugglers as you would regularly ( prostitution shouldn't be a crime) and then deport them. The US already departs criminals at high rates and that should continue. Of course the magnitude of the crime should be taken into account as well.

Agreed, and not just prostitution.  We should legalize, regulate, and tax the prostitution and recreational drug industries.  (Not all drugs, but the detrimental side effects from the international drug trade in marijuana, cocaine, and opiods combined with it being more cost effective to treat the use of those drugs as a medical problem rather than a criminal problem mean that I favor legalizing those.)

I never said anhtni ng about a majorityh.

However, a substantial number do commit crimes while illegally in the United States. 

You seem to want to cover up those crimes.

No, I want to law enforcement to focus on serious crimes rather than being a pack of Javerts.
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