Ancient France's Provinces Survivor - Normandie ! BBF commits suicide

[big bad fab]

Amazing, Gascogne is still here !
This round is probably its last, though.

Savoie

[homelycooking]

Gascogne

[Hans-im-Glück]

Savoie

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Oh my dear, all those guys against fondue and raclette.

Well, Gacogne, indeed.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Gascogne

[Hash]

Gascogne

[Edu]

Lol, i think i've been voting for Gascogne as early as page 11 or 12 of this thread.

Gascogne

[big bad fab]

1. Ile-de-France
2. Berry
3. Orléanais
4. Normandie
5. Languedoc
6. Lyonnais
7. Dauphiné
8. Champagne
9. Aunis
10. Saintonge
11. Poitou
12. Nivernais
13. Bourgogne
14. Picardie
15. Anjou
16. Provence
17. Angoumois
18. Bourbonnais
19. Marche
20. Bretagne
21. Maine
22. Touraine
23. Limousin
24. Comté de Foix
25. Auvergne
26. Béarn
27. Alsace
28. Artois
29. Roussillon
30. Flandre
31. Franche-Comté
32. Lorraine
33. Guyenne
34. Gascogne
35. Comtat Venaissin
36. Corse
37. Savoie
38. Comté de Nice
39. Perche

Results:
Round 1: Comtat-Venaissin 15, Comté de Nice 7, Aunis 2, Perche 2, Alsace 1, Angoumois 1, Corse 1, Comté de Foix 1
Round 2: Comté de Nice 7, Comté de Foix 4, Alsace 2 (3-1), Aunis 2, Corse 2, Angoumois 1, Lorraine 1, Bretagne -1, Roussillon -1 (1-2), Savoie -3
Round 3: Comté de Foix 3, Alsace 1, Angoumois 1, Corse 1, Perche 1
Round 4: Perche 20, Corse 11, Alsace 9, Angoumois 9, Aunis 7, Marche 5, Lorraine 3, Roussillon 3, Flandre 2, Saintonge 1
Round 5: Angoumois 3 (3-0 and 12 previous points), Aunis 3 (6-3 and 11 previous points), Corse 1 (5-4), Marche 1, Alsace 0 (7-7), Artois -1, Dauphiné -1, Lorraine -1 (2-3), Roussillon -5
Round 6: Aunis 2, Marche 1.5, Alsace 1, Corse 1
Round 7: Corse 8, Marche 6, Saintonge 6, Alsace 4, Roussillon 4, Picardie 2
Round 8: Marche 4, Nivernais 3, Saintonge 3 (4-1), Flandre 1, Limousin 1 (3-2), Picardie 1, Roussillon 1 (2-1), Franche-Comté 0 (1-1), Artois -1, Alsace -2 (2-4), Bretagne -2, Guyenne -2
Round 9: Nivernais 4, Alsace 2, Saintonge 1
Round 10: Saintonge 16, Alsace 11, Roussillon 9, Limousin 6, Artois 4, Gascogne 3, Lorraine 3, Béarn 2, Picardie 2, Provence 2, Touraine 2
Round 11: Alsace 1 (2-1 and 29 previous points), Limousin 1 (3-2 and 7 previous points), Flandre 1 (1-0 and 3 previous points), Touraine 1 (2-1 and 2 previous points)
Round 12: Limousin 2, Touraine 1.5, Béarn 1, Artois 0.5, Bourbonnais 0.5, Flandre 0.5, Gascogne 0.5, Lorraine 0.5, Picardie 0.5, Roussillon 0.5
Round 13: Bourbonnais 37, Artois 26, Touraine 18, Béarn 17, Roussillon 14, Flandre 12, Lorraine 11, Provence 8, Picardie 6, Gascogne 5, Maine 5, Franche-Comté 1
Round 14: Béarn 3, Artois 2 (3-1), Touraine 2 (3-1), Bretagne 1, Flandre 1, Provence 1 (2-1), Roussillon 1 (2-1), Lorraine 0 (1-1), Guyenne -1, Gascogne -2
Round 15: Roussillon 3, Artois 1, Flandre 1, Lorraine 1, Touraine 1
Round 16: Lorraine 5 (18.5 previous points), Picardie 5 (11.5 previous points), Touraine 4, Artois 3, Flandre 3, Bretagne 2, Maine 2
Round 17: Artois 11, Picardie 6, Provence 6, Gascogne 5, Flandre 4, Touraine 4, Bretagne 2, Franche-Comté 2, Maine 2
Round 18: Flandre 2.5, Picardie 1.5, Touraine 1, Bretagne 0.5, Franche-Comté 0.5, Gascogne 0.5, Provence 0.5
Round 19: Picardie 12, Touraine 10, Gascogne 6, Maine 4, Provence 4, Berry 2, Bretagne 2, Franche-Comté 2, Bourgogne 1, Ile-de-France 1, Lyonnais 1
Round 20: Touraine 11 (12-1), Maine 6, Berry 4, Lyonnais 4 (7-3), Franche-Comté 3, Ile-de-France 1, Languedoc 1, Provence 0 (6-6), Bourgogne -1, Guyenne -1, Bretagne -2, Gascogne -5 (2-7)
Round 21: Maine 30, Berry 18, Provence 14, Languedoc 13, Auvergne 12, Anjou 11, Franche-Comté 8, Lyonnais 8, Gascogne 6
Round 22: Lyonnais 3 (13 previous points), Auvergne 3 (4-1 & 12 previous points), Provence 2, Languedoc 0 (2-2), Bretagne -1, Guyenne -1, Berry -2, Gascogne -4 (1-5)
Round 23: Auvergne 4, Gascogne 2, Provence 2
Round 24: Franche-Comté 8, Anjou 7, Provence 7, Languedoc 3, Berry 2, Guyenne 2, Poitou 1, invalid votes 2
Round 25: Anjou 20, Ile-de-France 17, Provence 16, Bourgogne 12, Languedoc 12, Poitou 7, Berry 4, Dauphiné 4, Guyenne 4
Round 26: Ile-de-France 2.5, Provence 2, Guyenne 1.5, Dauphiné 1, Languedoc 0.5, Poitou 0.5
Round 27: Provence 4, Poitou 3, Guyenne 1
Round 28: Dauphiné 9, Languedoc 8, Poitou 8, Berry 5, Gascogne 5, Champagne 4, Bretagne 3, Guyenne 3, Bourgogne 2, Savoie 1
Round 29: Berry 5, Languedoc 3, Poitou 3, Bourgogne 1, Bretagne 1 (2-1), Champagne 1 (3-2), Gascogne 1 (3-2), Savoie 1 (2-1), Guyenne 0 (1-1), Orléanais 0 (1-1)
Round 30: Poitou 31, Bourgogne 17, Languedoc 15, Champagne 13, Bretagne 9, Gascogne 9, Savoie 9, Orléanais 2
Round 31: Languedoc 4 (55.5 previous points), Champagne 4 (18 previous points), Bretagne 4 (14.5 previous points), Bourgogne 3, Savoie 2, Gascogne 1
Round 32: Champagne 3, Bretagne 2, Gascogne 1, Savoie 1
Round 33: Bretagne 17, Bourgogne 13, Orléanais 11, Gascogne 8, Savoie 8, Guyenne 7, Normandie 6
Round 34: Bourgogne 7, Gascogne 5 (7-2), Orléanais 4, Guyenne 0 (1-1), Normandie 0 (1-1), Savoie 0 (4-4)
Round 35: Orléanais 5, Gascogne 4, Savoie 4, Normandie 2, Guyenne 1
Round 36: Gascogne 5, Savoie 3

In case of a tie, previous votes will decide which Province is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Duke of this survivor, will decide.

ROUND 37 IS OPEN !

In this round, you vote to eliminate 1 Province.
We'll eliminate the Province which receives the biggest total of points.

Vote away !

[big bad fab]

Do you believe that !?! Gascogne is out !

Savoie

Let's have an "English" final

[Antonio the Sixth]

Normandie, it's time.

[Hash]

Normandie

[homelycooking]

Savoie, to save Normandie for the final

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Let's have an "English" final

France can't afford that. Though I'll be alone with voting Guyenne maybe. I can't vote Savoie, even to save Normandie, and Normandie really is my winner then I can't vote it either.

I give a Guyenne and I need 3 more, please.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Savoie

[Edu]

Finally!

Normandie

[big bad fab]

1. Ile-de-France
2. Berry
3. Orléanais
4. Normandie
5. Languedoc
6. Lyonnais
7. Dauphiné
8. Champagne
9. Aunis
10. Saintonge
11. Poitou
12. Nivernais
13. Bourgogne
14. Picardie
15. Anjou
16. Provence
17. Angoumois
18. Bourbonnais
19. Marche
20. Bretagne
21. Maine
22. Touraine
23. Limousin
24. Comté de Foix
25. Auvergne
26. Béarn
27. Alsace
28. Artois
29. Roussillon
30. Flandre
31. Franche-Comté
32. Lorraine
33. Guyenne
34. Gascogne
35. Comtat Venaissin
36. Corse
37. Savoie
38. Comté de Nice
39. Perche

Results:
Round 1: Comtat-Venaissin 15, Comté de Nice 7, Aunis 2, Perche 2, Alsace 1, Angoumois 1, Corse 1, Comté de Foix 1
Round 2: Comté de Nice 7, Comté de Foix 4, Alsace 2 (3-1), Aunis 2, Corse 2, Angoumois 1, Lorraine 1, Bretagne -1, Roussillon -1 (1-2), Savoie -3
Round 3: Comté de Foix 3, Alsace 1, Angoumois 1, Corse 1, Perche 1
Round 4: Perche 20, Corse 11, Alsace 9, Angoumois 9, Aunis 7, Marche 5, Lorraine 3, Roussillon 3, Flandre 2, Saintonge 1
Round 5: Angoumois 3 (3-0 and 12 previous points), Aunis 3 (6-3 and 11 previous points), Corse 1 (5-4), Marche 1, Alsace 0 (7-7), Artois -1, Dauphiné -1, Lorraine -1 (2-3), Roussillon -5
Round 6: Aunis 2, Marche 1.5, Alsace 1, Corse 1
Round 7: Corse 8, Marche 6, Saintonge 6, Alsace 4, Roussillon 4, Picardie 2
Round 8: Marche 4, Nivernais 3, Saintonge 3 (4-1), Flandre 1, Limousin 1 (3-2), Picardie 1, Roussillon 1 (2-1), Franche-Comté 0 (1-1), Artois -1, Alsace -2 (2-4), Bretagne -2, Guyenne -2
Round 9: Nivernais 4, Alsace 2, Saintonge 1
Round 10: Saintonge 16, Alsace 11, Roussillon 9, Limousin 6, Artois 4, Gascogne 3, Lorraine 3, Béarn 2, Picardie 2, Provence 2, Touraine 2
Round 11: Alsace 1 (2-1 and 29 previous points), Limousin 1 (3-2 and 7 previous points), Flandre 1 (1-0 and 3 previous points), Touraine 1 (2-1 and 2 previous points)
Round 12: Limousin 2, Touraine 1.5, Béarn 1, Artois 0.5, Bourbonnais 0.5, Flandre 0.5, Gascogne 0.5, Lorraine 0.5, Picardie 0.5, Roussillon 0.5
Round 13: Bourbonnais 37, Artois 26, Touraine 18, Béarn 17, Roussillon 14, Flandre 12, Lorraine 11, Provence 8, Picardie 6, Gascogne 5, Maine 5, Franche-Comté 1
Round 14: Béarn 3, Artois 2 (3-1), Touraine 2 (3-1), Bretagne 1, Flandre 1, Provence 1 (2-1), Roussillon 1 (2-1), Lorraine 0 (1-1), Guyenne -1, Gascogne -2
Round 15: Roussillon 3, Artois 1, Flandre 1, Lorraine 1, Touraine 1
Round 16: Lorraine 5 (18.5 previous points), Picardie 5 (11.5 previous points), Touraine 4, Artois 3, Flandre 3, Bretagne 2, Maine 2
Round 17: Artois 11, Picardie 6, Provence 6, Gascogne 5, Flandre 4, Touraine 4, Bretagne 2, Franche-Comté 2, Maine 2
Round 18: Flandre 2.5, Picardie 1.5, Touraine 1, Bretagne 0.5, Franche-Comté 0.5, Gascogne 0.5, Provence 0.5
Round 19: Picardie 12, Touraine 10, Gascogne 6, Maine 4, Provence 4, Berry 2, Bretagne 2, Franche-Comté 2, Bourgogne 1, Ile-de-France 1, Lyonnais 1
Round 20: Touraine 11 (12-1), Maine 6, Berry 4, Lyonnais 4 (7-3), Franche-Comté 3, Ile-de-France 1, Languedoc 1, Provence 0 (6-6), Bourgogne -1, Guyenne -1, Bretagne -2, Gascogne -5 (2-7)
Round 21: Maine 30, Berry 18, Provence 14, Languedoc 13, Auvergne 12, Anjou 11, Franche-Comté 8, Lyonnais 8, Gascogne 6
Round 22: Lyonnais 3 (13 previous points), Auvergne 3 (4-1 & 12 previous points), Provence 2, Languedoc 0 (2-2), Bretagne -1, Guyenne -1, Berry -2, Gascogne -4 (1-5)
Round 23: Auvergne 4, Gascogne 2, Provence 2
Round 24: Franche-Comté 8, Anjou 7, Provence 7, Languedoc 3, Berry 2, Guyenne 2, Poitou 1, invalid votes 2
Round 25: Anjou 20, Ile-de-France 17, Provence 16, Bourgogne 12, Languedoc 12, Poitou 7, Berry 4, Dauphiné 4, Guyenne 4
Round 26: Ile-de-France 2.5, Provence 2, Guyenne 1.5, Dauphiné 1, Languedoc 0.5, Poitou 0.5
Round 27: Provence 4, Poitou 3, Guyenne 1
Round 28: Dauphiné 9, Languedoc 8, Poitou 8, Berry 5, Gascogne 5, Champagne 4, Bretagne 3, Guyenne 3, Bourgogne 2, Savoie 1
Round 29: Berry 5, Languedoc 3, Poitou 3, Bourgogne 1, Bretagne 1 (2-1), Champagne 1 (3-2), Gascogne 1 (3-2), Savoie 1 (2-1), Guyenne 0 (1-1), Orléanais 0 (1-1)
Round 30: Poitou 31, Bourgogne 17, Languedoc 15, Champagne 13, Bretagne 9, Gascogne 9, Savoie 9, Orléanais 2
Round 31: Languedoc 4 (55.5 previous points), Champagne 4 (18 previous points), Bretagne 4 (14.5 previous points), Bourgogne 3, Savoie 2, Gascogne 1
Round 32: Champagne 3, Bretagne 2, Gascogne 1, Savoie 1
Round 33: Bretagne 17, Bourgogne 13, Orléanais 11, Gascogne 8, Savoie 8, Guyenne 7, Normandie 6
Round 34: Bourgogne 7, Gascogne 5 (7-2), Orléanais 4, Guyenne 0 (1-1), Normandie 0 (1-1), Savoie 0 (4-4)
Round 35: Orléanais 5, Gascogne 4, Savoie 4, Normandie 2, Guyenne 1
Round 36: Gascogne 5, Savoie 3
Round 37: Savoie 4, Normandie 3, Guyenne 1

In case of a tie, previous votes will decide which Province is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, Duke of this survivor, will decide.

ROUND 38 IS OPEN !

In this round, you vote to eliminate 1 Province.
We'll eliminate the Province which receives the biggest total of points.

Vote away !

[big bad fab]

Savoie finishing third is really a big surprise : no big history inside France, not an important province.
But, sure, wonderful landscapes, some very fine cities.

And now, as you already know, I vote:

Guyenne for the win !

Eliminate Normandie.

Guyenne, it's a smart aristocracy (), it's English influence, it's Bordeaux wines, it's a wonderful coast and a magnificient bay (Bassin d'Arcachon),
it's Périgord and Quercy, with their castles, their deep valleys, their houses with these old yellow rocks, their foie gras ,
it's Rouergue, with its marvelous landscapes, its old villages, its cheeses, José Bové,
it's Bordeaux itself, one of the most beautiful French cities outside Paris.

But you eat very well in Normandy too... and some villages are wonderful (Pays d'Auge), and Cotentin is beautiful, like the center of Rouen or Honfleur's harbour or the coast between Etretat and Dieppe.
And it's a big history, of course...

I'm very pleased with this final, but I'm a son of Guyenne .

My top 4 were Guyenne, Gascogne, Poitou, Normandie.
Then came, in no particular order, Touraine, Anjou, Berry, Alsace, and then Bretagne, Franche-Comté, Bourgogne, Béarn.
Too many favourites...

[Hash]

You're a lucky SOB to have your favourite being in the final.

Guyenne for the win !

Eliminate Normandie.

[big bad fab]

You're a lucky SOB to have your favourite being in the final.

Yep, it was unexpected. Maybe my threats were more effective than yours, after all .

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sh*t...

Eliminate Normandie

Guyenne for survivor (meh)

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

So, I had already said my vote.

Hey Savoie resisted well yes.

As I already said Guyenne is emmmmmmmmmmmpty! Yes, beautiful landscapes, pleasant food, the wines of Bordeaux, but nobody living there! And the coast is only some sand! And Bordeaux, oh dear, I hope they really improved it with tramway and new quays, because the last time I went in the inner city, it was really dirty, very very, black walls everywhere, the quays were just awful, and all these cars everywhere, only the (crumbling) Colbert had something... And anyhow Bordeaux's architecture is the definition of pretentiousness! Only the 'Pont de Pierre' that I like, pretty beautiful...

Normandy for the win, because of History, hey, that's thanks to them that English is easy to learn, because of its coasts, I loved the coast between Port-en-Bessin and Honfleur, because of its cities, I always had something for Cherbourg and Le Havre, because it kinda embodies a kind of sweetness, and because both of my maternal grand-parents are (were for one) from there.

Go Normandy!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

EDIT: Nobody living in Guyenne, except English and Dutch, indeed. . They help to change it into a region of Gîtes!

[homelycooking]

Eliminate Guyenne
Normandie for Survivor

[big bad fab]

I don't really understand your "empty" adjective...
Guyenne as a whole is less empty than Auvergne, Savoie or even Basse-Normandie.

And, as for Bordeaux, yeah, you're talking of the last half of Chaban's reign; that's old now... The city is clean and wonderful now.
River banks are completely transformed: you CAN see the Garonne now !
Really, you wouldn't recognize the city. And you wouldn't think Place de la Bourse has a "pretentious" architecture: it's just beautiful, elegant, besides clean river banks and modern urban furnitures.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

And you wouldn't think Place de la Bourse has a "pretentious" architecture: it's just beautiful, elegant, besides clean river banks and modern urban furnitures.

I find the whole XVIIIth-XIXth century architecture of the city pretentious. . And last time I went in the inner city was in 1996/1997. In the suburb last time was last year, and while it wouldn't be a monopoly of Bordeaux, compared to Toulouse the bypass belt is still awful.

I don't really understand your "empty" adjective...
Guyenne as a whole is less empty than Auvergne, Savoie or even Basse-Normandie.

Well, lots of regions are empty in France, but, really, outside of Bordeaux: Périgord, Quercy, Agennais, Gironde, Rouergue. I've traveled along those in multiple directions a lot of time, not unpleasant landscapes, but, well, rather calm and not very populated region, which can be a charm too, but it's just the way it is. It is actually transforming itself into a region of gîtes. Beside Bordeaux, in term of provinces, I would wonder which of Gascogne, Guyenne, and Auvergne would be the most empty nowadays...