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Gustaf
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« on: August 15, 2010, 07:46:25 AM »
« edited: December 03, 2011, 07:01:15 AM by Gustaf »

So, new game, partly new players.

Soviet Union: Bacon King
Germany: Turin
United Kingdom: Bullmoose
Japan: Junkie
United States: MoPolitico


Below the dotted line is the post for the first game. In there you will find potentially useful information about rules, cost of units and so on.
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Ok, we're gonna go ahead with this so we get the show on the road.

Russia - Junkie
Germany - Bacon King
UK - Turin
Japan - Mikado
US - Turin

I'm pretty sure the rules we're playing with can be found here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/downloads

You can PM your orders to me. I will not NMR people but try and be as quick as you can - I would prefer something like 48 or 72 hours for each player round (harsh, I know, but otherwise it could take forever!).

I think I will do the turns split in two, with technology, unit purchase and combat being done first and then non-combat+placing after. What do you guys think? Would you prefer all in one go? The first would mean less complicated contingency plans, but it would also slow down the turn sequence (on the other hand it might speed up the decision-making process for each part, which is why I favour it).

Also, when assigning casualties my default principle will be to do it in order of combat value. This is basically what you always want to do WITH THREE EXCEPTIONS.

1. When attacking, if you want to take the territory and the attack includes air units. You might then want to sacrifice air units in order to keep at least one land unit alive, since air units can't capture territories. If you want to "take at all costs" please indicate so, in your orders.

2. When defending, since certain units have low combat value but high production value (bombers being the best example). Since most attacks destroy all defending units anyway I will use my default, but if you want to try and protect certain units please tell me so by PM towards the end of your turn.

3. Naval battles, because they are a mess. Please just tell me in those cases if you want to make deviations.

EDIT: important point: if you want an attack to be stopped once you reach a certain threshold of casualties, then you need to specify so in your orders. Also, please note whether you want to submerge subs if attacked or not.

I will post stats and maps shortly and then wait for Soviet Union (Junkie) to open the game!

Reminder of costs:

Infantry - 3
Artillery - 4
Armour - 5
Fighter - 10
Bomber - 15
Industrial Complex - 15
AA gun - 5
Submarine - 8
Transport - 8
Destroyer - 12
Carrier - 16
Battleship - 24
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 08:17:01 AM »

I've found someone willing to do UK+US.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 11:03:53 AM »
« Edited: August 15, 2010, 11:05:31 AM by Gustaf »

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 11:15:02 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 11:29:52 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 11:33:10 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 11:35:32 AM »

So, guys, do you think the map size on the last two is acceptable? I'll leave the other to allow for an overview.

Here is also a stat table. It shows PUs, production capacity, number of units, total unit value and victory cities.

Russians   24   24   37   168   2
Germans   40   40   58   337   3
British   30   30   36   269   2
Japanese   30   30   40   283   3
Americans   42   42   34   252   2
Allies   96   96   107   689   6
Axis   70   70   98   620   6
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 04:30:34 AM »

Junkie has been commendably speedy in sending in his moves. I'm not currently at my home computer so I will get home later today and update.

Let's do this everyone!
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 05:56:13 PM »

Stalin had noted the bulge in the German frontline and decided to isolate the German forces in Western Russia through a bold pincer movement cutting through the German lines both in the South and in the North.



While the Northern attack was executed with precision, quickly wiping out the German defence, the assault on Ukraine proved to be a costly mistake with all Russia ground forces destroyed in the process, despite the overwhelming advantage on paper for the Red hordes.


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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 06:03:40 PM »
« Edited: August 16, 2010, 06:13:00 PM by Gustaf »










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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 07:28:59 PM »

After bloodying their noses, the Soviets quietly amassed their troops across the front, bracing themselves for the inevitable German counter-move and mobilizing some of their vast reserves of infantry ready for the slaughter, dividing the masses of meat equally between Stalingrad and Moscow. 















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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 07:41:45 PM »

Forgot to add one that shows the Mediterranean situation more clearly:

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2010, 09:22:16 AM »


Not me.
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You're not doing too badly. You had a round of unlucky dice, but that could easily reverse. I would still say your defensive position looks all right.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2010, 04:24:03 PM »

Would it be possible to give full coverage of diceroll results, like in Joe's Risk threads of yore, or is that too much work?

It's too much work. But I might do it anyway. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2010, 05:46:39 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2010, 06:12:55 PM by Gustaf »

Not wanting to be belittled by the bold pincer move of Stalin, Hitler decided to counter with an equally bold pincer move of his own. A large force was committed to an assault on Karelia and an even larger one to Caucasus. Emptying the human coffers of the Reich was necessary to facilitate an even more bold move on Egypt.

The combination of amphibious and land forces on Egypt took both the British navy and army by complete surprise and no casualties were incurred as the German forces steamrolled the hapless Englishmen. On the Eastern front things went well too, while German submarines continued to harass British transports, attempting to cut off Canada from the European theatre.

On the downside, German scientists got nowhere in researching the technology of future bombers. Perhaps they would have been better off working on the current bombers, given how those turned out to fare in battle...










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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2010, 05:54:54 PM »

Anglo-Egypt was a great win for the Germans, having the odds against them by a clear margin, yet winning without casualties. Caucasus was a win but it cost a lot - the bomber and one fighter were downed by AA fire. The rest of the German forces killed statistically, while the Russians did much better. Then the Germans went slightly sub-par while the Russians killed nothing, well below expected value. Both sides did well in the last round and Russian forced were depleted. Karelia was completely statistical.

Overall, a strong round for Germany, I'd say. Sorry to Lewis but I'm yet to find an easy way to paste over the dice rolls. Sad
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2010, 06:10:35 PM »

Oh noes, my bomber! Ah well, it was a good turn. I suppose I PM you my noncombat moves now?

You suppose entirely right. Also, I should mention that your fighters in Caucasus have to move away, obviously. They have movements of 1,2 and 3 respectively. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 03:02:48 AM »

Even if you can't post dice rolls and such, could you post the moves themselves afterwards?  As in, "the Germans sent three infantry and one tank from X to Y and in the course of the battle lost one infantry while the Soviets were wiped out."

Sure.

Ukraine: Russians attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 1 : 4,6,3,4,6,4,4,5
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 1 : 4,3,5,6,1,1
2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4,4,1,2,3,6
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3,5,1,2,2
1 infantry owned by the Russians , 2 armour owned by the Russians , 2 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 5,4
Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 5,1
1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
 retreated to Ukraine S.S.R.
Germans win

Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is -15

Belorussia: Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
Germans defend with 3 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Belorussia, round 1 : 4,6,5,6,5
Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Belorussia, round 1 : 5,1,3
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 5,2,2,2
Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 5,3,5
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 3,5,1,4
Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 1,5
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
Russians takes Belorussia from Germans
Russians win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 3

Battle in 15 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 transport
British defend with 1 destroyer
Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 15 Sea Zone, round 1 : 5,1
British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 15 Sea Zone, round 1 : 3
Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 15 Sea Zone
Germans win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 12

Battle in 1 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 submarine
British defend with 1 transport
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 1 Sea Zone, round 1 : 1
1 transport owned by the British lost in 1 Sea Zone
Germans win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 8

Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
Russians defend with 3 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 1 : 1,3,3,5,5,3,4,6,3,5
Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 1 : 2,5,6
3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R.
Germans takes Karelia S.S.R. from Russians
Germans win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 6

Battle in Caucasus
Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 6 infantry
AA guns fire in Caucasus : 1,6,1,5,4
1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 1 : 1,2,6,3,6,6,4,2,3,6
Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 6 infantry in Caucasus, round 1 : 3,2,4,4,5,1,4,2
4 infantry owned by the Russians , 2 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 armour owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 3 fighters in Caucasus, round 2 : 3,4,3,4,5,4
Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 5,6,5,6
2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 3 fighters in Caucasus, round 3 : 3,4,1,2,3,6
Russians roll dice for 2 fighters in Caucasus, round 3 : 1,2
2 armour owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
Germans takes Caucasus from Russians
Germans win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is -12

Battle in Anglo Egypt
Germans attack with 2 armour and 2 infantry
British defend with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 2 infantry in Anglo Egypt, round 1 : 3,5,1,1
British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Egypt, round 1 : 4,5,5
1 infantry owned by the British , 1 armour owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Anglo Egypt
Germans takes Anglo Egypt from British
Germans win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 18

Phew. I haven't found a way to do this without copying each line by itself so I don't know if it is worth it...
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 03:16:07 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2010, 05:47:54 AM by Gustaf »

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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2010, 05:03:46 AM »

The German air force retreated, spreading out from Norway in the North to the Ukraine in the South. Except for the forces standing idle in occupied France the scattered remnants of German forces moved undaunted towards the Eastern bloodbaths, while fresh armoured and air divisions were mobilized in the German heartland.














I think that you should be able to view and enlarge those pics you want a closer look at by clicking on the link below. At least, let's try that since it saves me time and space here. Tongue Let me know if it works!

http://img22.imageshack.us/g/britainround19.png/
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2010, 05:51:09 AM »

Couple of notes: I sadly realized how I think I can make screenshots of individual moves so I'm going to spend time posting those, within reason. Sad

Fun fact: Axis have now overtaken Allies in number of units: 89 v 88. They're also ahead in total unit value (600 v 574). Of course, America is yet to come, so it won't last. And Allies are still ahead in production terms: 90 v 76. The Axis need to grab another 7 IPC to catch up.
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2010, 07:43:45 AM »

The British had studied the situation with grim determination. The Soviets were under heavy pressure and with the loss of Egypt the whole of Africa was looking vulnerable. Under the principle of attack being the best defence, Churchill decided to gamble with an outright attack on Norway.

With the German submarines hampering English transport capabilities, the responsibility for the invasion would lie largely with the RAF, and gathering the squadron leaders, Churchill adressed them personally with the following speech:

"It is of the utmost importance that we free Norway. That proud people has lived under German oppression long enough. We will also aid our Soviet allies in their struggle against this Realm of Darkness. You, pilots of the British empire and aces in exile, will support our brave soldiers landing on the northern shores. British fire shall reign in the skies and force the foul winged serpents of the Luftwaffe out of Norway. Go with God and the blessing of the King!"

While the battleship bombardment proved highly ineffective (the German air bases being too far inland) the British attacked with fervour to avenge their fallen comrades in Egypt. The battle was swift, with the attackers losing an infantry division and the German air force being dealt a heavy blow.

The British otherwise massed their colonial troops in Eastern Canada and India, while merging the Australian and Indian navies in the south of the Indian Ocean, the former bringing with them most of the Australian armed forces. The British naval forces also gathered around the British isles, strengthened by a new destroyer. The infantry lost in Norway was replaced by a fresh corps, while a new military industrial complex was established in South Africa to create a new centre of gravity on the African continent.
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2010, 07:55:46 AM »








This one was special as it was done directly...in the future I will try and do more close-ups of battles, promise!
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2010, 08:07:07 AM »







Time for Japan's turn! Allies are now once again ahead in unit terms (90 v 87)
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2010, 03:21:08 AM »


"It is of the utmost importance that we free Norway. That proud people has lived under German oppression long enough. We will also aid our Soviet allies in their struggle against this Realm of Darkness. You, pilots of the British empire and aces in exile, will support our brave soldiers landing on the northern shores. British fire shall reign in the skies and force the foul winged serpents of the Luftwaffe out of Norway. Go with God and the blessing of the King!"


This fired me up.

It should be noted that it was Turin's speech, sent in along with his orders, I just posted it. Smiley Credit goes to him.
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