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« on: August 18, 2010, 09:42:30 AM »

A colossal waste of time and money and a classic case of thuggery on the part of Holder

Does hating Sheriff Joe justify the cost of this?
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 11:59:39 AM »

Good. The only thug here is the racist media whore hiding behind his badge.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 12:06:23 PM »

Good. The only thug here is the racist media whore hiding behind his badge.

I think the DoJ agrees with you.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 12:27:34 PM »

I wouldn't shed much tears if the Mexicans shot Arpaio, actually. I loathe that man.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 12:31:41 PM »


Yes. Arpaio's antics, in addition to being unconstitutional and immoral, also contribute to higher crime rates in Phoenix and deprive the entire county of proper and effective law enforcement.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 03:21:55 PM »

Good.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 04:02:28 PM »

Looks like it's time for a good, old-fashioned thugfest. I can take no side in this, since both men are completely worthless.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 05:08:48 PM »


I can only wish Holder would use some thuggery while dealing with that worthless piece of crap. Give him a taste of his own medicine so to speak. Sadly, I don't see any evidence of that in the link you posted. Sad
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 05:16:50 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 07:10:55 PM »

Normally I sided with Joe - but he should just go along with the investigation here.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 09:23:11 PM »

Good for Holder. Someone needs to take that asshole piece of sh!t down.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 10:04:08 PM »


The Obama administration seems to want to wipe out the Dem party in Arizona. Sheriff Joe may or may not be a racist ahole, but he is loved in Maricopa County, particularly at the moment, when fear is stalking the place. Folks down there, and in DC, are all overwrought. They all need therapy really.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 10:16:56 PM »


The Obama administration seems to want to wipe out the Dem party in Arizona. Sheriff Joe may or may not be a racist ahole, but he is loved in Maricopa County, particularly at the moment, when fear is stalking the place. Folks down there, and in DC, are all overwrought. They all need therapy really.

I don't get it either - when you make the battle Arizona vs. DC, you know who's going to win that battle in Arizona.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 11:31:05 PM »

Good for Holder. Someone needs to take that asshole piece of sh!t down.

And then someone needs to take Holder down, so the world will be that much righter overall.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 12:21:10 AM »

I wouldn't shed much tears if the Mexicans shot Arpaio, actually. I loathe that man.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2010, 08:23:40 AM »

The Obama administration seems to want to wipe out the Dem party in Arizona.

"We have lost the South for a generation."
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2010, 08:41:01 AM »

It's not like the Democratic Party was in great shape in Arizona to begin with... when has it ever been, really?
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2010, 08:47:16 AM »

I guess those of you who hate Sheriff Joe (which is fine, he is a polarizing figure), aren't disturbed by what appears to be the government doing the same thing you hate Sheriff Joe for, going after your enemies just because they're your enemies?
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2010, 08:52:53 AM »

I guess those of you who hate Sheriff Joe (which is fine, he is a polarizing figure), aren't disturbed by what appears to be the government doing the same thing you hate Sheriff Joe for, going after your enemies just because they're your enemies?

Arpaio is breaking laws left and right, and in serious ways. He's a sheriff, he doesn't get to make policy or overrule constitutional guarantees. But the people he's going after, he's nailing with trumped up charges purely to harass them and they always get thrown out of court.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2010, 08:56:52 AM »

I guess those of you who hate Sheriff Joe (which is fine, he is a polarizing figure), aren't disturbed by what appears to be the government doing the same thing you hate Sheriff Joe for, going after your enemies just because they're your enemies?

Arpaio is breaking laws left and right, and in serious ways. He's a sheriff, he doesn't get to make policy or overrule constitutional guarantees. But the people he's going after, he's nailing with trumped up charges purely to harass them and they always get thrown out of court.

Ok, and what I'm asking is, do you feel they're going after him on merit, or because they just hate the guy?  I feel it's the later, personally.

You guys forget my overall disdain for law enforcement (the feds especially), but just overall disdain.  I think they're all thugs.
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2010, 09:15:16 AM »

I guess those of you who hate Sheriff Joe (which is fine, he is a polarizing figure), aren't disturbed by what appears to be the government doing the same thing you hate Sheriff Joe for, going after your enemies just because they're your enemies?

Arpaio is breaking laws left and right, and in serious ways. He's a sheriff, he doesn't get to make policy or overrule constitutional guarantees. But the people he's going after, he's nailing with trumped up charges purely to harass them and they always get thrown out of court.

Ok, and what I'm asking is, do you feel they're going after him on merit, or because they just hate the guy?  I feel it's the later, personally.

You guys forget my overall disdain for law enforcement (the feds especially), but just overall disdain.  I think they're all thugs.

So... they shouldn't go after him for breaking laws and being a menace to society simply because they also dislike him? Frankly, anyone who doesn't dislike Arpaio scares me a little. But it sounds like you're the one with the biased perspective.
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2010, 09:39:18 AM »

I guess those of you who hate Sheriff Joe (which is fine, he is a polarizing figure), aren't disturbed by what appears to be the government doing the same thing you hate Sheriff Joe for, going after your enemies just because they're your enemies?

Arpaio is breaking laws left and right, and in serious ways. He's a sheriff, he doesn't get to make policy or overrule constitutional guarantees. But the people he's going after, he's nailing with trumped up charges purely to harass them and they always get thrown out of court.

Ok, and what I'm asking is, do you feel they're going after him on merit, or because they just hate the guy?  I feel it's the later, personally.

You guys forget my overall disdain for law enforcement (the feds especially), but just overall disdain.  I think they're all thugs.

So... they shouldn't go after him for breaking laws and being a menace to society simply because they also dislike him? Frankly, anyone who doesn't dislike Arpaio scares me a little. But it sounds like you're the one with the biased perspective.

Perhaps, Verily, perhaps.  I still think the level of assualt against him by the Justice Department is interesting, given that he's held the job since the dawn of man.
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2010, 09:44:04 AM »

I guess those of you who hate Sheriff Joe (which is fine, he is a polarizing figure), aren't disturbed by what appears to be the government doing the same thing you hate Sheriff Joe for, going after your enemies just because they're your enemies?

Arpaio is breaking laws left and right, and in serious ways. He's a sheriff, he doesn't get to make policy or overrule constitutional guarantees. But the people he's going after, he's nailing with trumped up charges purely to harass them and they always get thrown out of court.

Ok, and what I'm asking is, do you feel they're going after him on merit, or because they just hate the guy?  I feel it's the later, personally.

You guys forget my overall disdain for law enforcement (the feds especially), but just overall disdain.  I think they're all thugs.

So... they shouldn't go after him for breaking laws and being a menace to society simply because they also dislike him? Frankly, anyone who doesn't dislike Arpaio scares me a little. But it sounds like you're the one with the biased perspective.

Perhaps, Verily, perhaps.  I still think the level of assualt against him by the Justice Department is interesting, given that he's held the job since the dawn of man.

Well, yeah, the Bush administration never went after him because it would have destroyed their popularity in Arizona. (And Clinton before him, too, although Arpaio was not as bad back then.) Arizona politicians cater to his every whim or they lose reelection (or represent the few communities that oppose him).

He's gotten away with scummy behavior for so long because no one had the political guts to do what the Justice Department is doing now. If anything, the political persecution is against those who oppose him.
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2010, 09:45:07 AM »

Well, yeah, the Bush administration never went after him because it would have destroyed their popularity in Arizona. (And Clinton before him, too, although Arpaio was not as bad back then.) Arizona politicians cater to his every whim or they lose reelection (or represent the few communities that oppose him).

He's gotten away with scummy behavior for so long because no one had the political guts to stand up to him. If anything, the political persecution is against those who oppose him.

I'm happy to end it there Smiley  Thanks!
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2010, 10:09:57 AM »

Joe is a good sheriff, I hope things work out good for him.
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