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« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2010, 08:38:14 am »
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TPP: ALP 50.54%


why is the ABC ignoring this??
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« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2010, 08:40:47 am »

TPP: ALP 50.54%


why is the ABC ignoring this??

Somebody ought to shove that stuff in George Brandis' face.
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« Reply #102 on: August 21, 2010, 08:41:54 am »
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TPP: ALP 50.54%


why is the ABC ignoring this??

Somebody ought to shove that stuff in George Brandis' face.

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« Reply #103 on: August 21, 2010, 09:03:58 am »
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Senate counting is funny: DLP now has a Senate seat.

For real? How amusingly retro.
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« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2010, 09:06:59 am »
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Senate counting is funny: DLP now has a Senate seat.

For real? How amusingly retro.

They've had a seat in the Victorian Upper House for the past three-and-a-half years. Mind you, they won it on about 1.5%, I think, one of those "miracles of preferences" that sometimes occurs under STV.
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« Reply #105 on: August 21, 2010, 09:10:14 am »
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Natties ahead in O'Connor now Cheesy

Nationals seem to be gaining O'Connor right now, w/ 34% counted. A victory for sanity!

Ah, so he of the iron bar lost. About time.
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« Reply #106 on: August 21, 2010, 09:11:59 am »
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Clive Palmer pumped lots of money into that seat for the Nats.

PS. Al - just saw your blank maps for Australia. You are all shades of awesome.
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« Reply #107 on: August 21, 2010, 09:19:21 am »
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Longest serving MP to lose (probably; it's on 50.6 with 68% counted) is Arch Bevis, who'd held the division of Brisbane since 1990. Basically a victim of boundary changes.

Nope; ABC seem to have uncalled it. 2PP is currently 50.2 and primaries are Lib 45.6, ALP 31.2, Green 20.9.
The other two seats currently listed as too close to call (Labor having edged further ahead in Greenway and the Liberals in Hasluck) are Corangamite (ALP 50.0) and Lindsay (ALP 50.2). Labor are (just about) ahead on primaries in the latter. I think that's a seat where the Greenies didn't go along with the preference deal; if it is lost, that'll be why.

But if the usual pattern doth repeat, then seats shall be added and seats shall be removed from the list as the days roll on. And because the ALP appears to have been more serious about postal votes than normal, we can't make the traditional assumptions.

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Something to reflect on again; the massive difference between Greater Sydney and the rest of NSW. Is the state government especially unpopular in the city, or is that the immigration issue at work?
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« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2010, 09:26:34 am »
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The Greenies came second in Batman, meaning that it loses it's traditional position in the list of the ultra-safe. But at 58/42, the next Melbourne it isn't. The figures in Grayndler are 51.6/48.4 and Labor are very lucky that the Greens haven't overtaken the Liberals in the division of Sydney.
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« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2010, 09:37:09 am »

DLP gain in Victoria-Senate holding up it seems. How amusing.
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« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2010, 09:47:21 am »
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The Greenies came second in Batman, meaning that it loses it's traditional position in the list of the ultra-safe. But at 58/42, the next Melbourne it isn't. The figures in Grayndler are 51.6/48.4 and Labor are very lucky that the Greens haven't overtaken the Liberals in the division of Sydney.

Compare Melbourne, Richmond and Brunswick with Northcote in the Victorian State Parliament. All are 2PP Labor vs Greens, but the first three are between 2 and 3%, but Northcote's about 8.5%. The seat of Northcote is all within Batman, too. Brunswick is Wills, Melbourne and Richmond is Melbourne.
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« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2010, 10:08:35 am »
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The Libs are only 0.2% ahead in Brisbane now. Should the ALP pull ahead, Labor would probably be the largest party.
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« Reply #112 on: August 21, 2010, 10:18:32 am »
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Oh dear. Things just get more and more mindlessly complicated. It appears that the (presumably! hopefully! Lord willing!) National victor and Nazi-slayer in O'Connor will not sit as a Coalition MP...
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« Reply #113 on: August 21, 2010, 10:19:59 am »
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Oh dear. Things just get more and more mindlessly complicated. It appears that the (presumably! hopefully! Lord willing!) National victor and Nazi-slayer in O'Connor will not sit as a Coalition MP...

Ah, but will he enter government with them, just not as one of the Coalition Party.
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« Reply #114 on: August 21, 2010, 10:23:20 am »

Is there any kind of general pattern in the swings? It seems like Sydney urban swung much more to the right than rural NSW, but are there are any other noticeable sociological-demographic patterns in swings elsewhere?
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« Reply #115 on: August 21, 2010, 10:30:21 am »
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Is there any kind of general pattern in the swings? It seems like Sydney urban swung much more to the right than rural NSW, but are there are any other noticeable sociological-demographic patterns in swings elsewhere?

There had been an assumption that the badness in Sydney would be especially bad in western Sydney (various shades of working class, often immigrants further in, often actually quite well off further out), but while the swings there have been rather large, Labor has also done dreadfully in most of the rest of the city with a massive (relatively) loss of support to the Greens in some posh areas. Labor nearly came third in Bradfield and Wentworth.
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« Reply #116 on: August 21, 2010, 11:26:08 am »
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Just came home, so who won ?
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« Reply #117 on: August 21, 2010, 11:27:52 am »
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Just came home, so who won ?

The Others won.
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« Reply #118 on: August 21, 2010, 11:28:19 am »
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Just came home, so who won ?

Nobody.
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« Reply #119 on: August 21, 2010, 11:30:38 am »
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Weird. Whats happening now ? Im rather unfamiliar with Australian politics. Is there a coalition likely ? And has it happened before that nobody won ?
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« Reply #120 on: August 21, 2010, 11:31:04 am »
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A little crude, but until the postals are all done its better that way. Confusion over Denison and Grayndler (ABC have for some reason switched it back to ALP-Lib) has resulted in some seriously dodgy stripes. Note that in Batman (the lighter of the dark red seats north of the division of Melbourne) the Greens are placed second. O'Connor is a Nat-Lib fight and has been coloured the darkest Coalition shade. Independents are just in dark grey.
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Weird. Whats happening now ? Im rather unfamiliar with Australian politics. Is there a coalition likely ? And has it happened before that nobody won ?

There's 4 independants and 1 Green holding the balance of power. The Green and one of the independants are more than likely going to prop up the Labor government. The other 3 will probably go to whoever gives them the best offer. There's also a new national MP who won't sit in the Coalition caucus, but will probably prop them up.

The seats are currently:
72 - LibNats
70 - Labor
4 - Independants
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3 seats are too close to call with Labor slightly ahead in 2 of them and the Coalition slightly ahead in the other one.

Either way, there's probably gonna be another election soon.
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« Reply #122 on: August 21, 2010, 11:47:51 am »

Either way, there's probably gonna be another election soon.

A change of government mid-stream through the term, as happened in 1940, is more likely in my mind. Not necessarily an election. It'd screw up the Senate terms.
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« Reply #123 on: August 21, 2010, 11:50:20 am »
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Minority governments at state level (and there have been a lot of those over the past two decades) have often been quite stable.
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« Reply #124 on: August 21, 2010, 12:00:50 pm »
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Personally, I think the more interesting question is who's going to replace Abbott or Gillard as party leader depending on which of them loses the negotiations.
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