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« on: March 16, 2004, 06:02:38 PM »

What does everyone think of John Kerry's challenging Bush to monthly debates?

1) It's the overused and unrealistic ploy of a challenger.
2) It's a sign that Kerry is afraid of dropping off the radar screen.
3) It's on par with Kerry's arrogance.
4) Bush should run commercials (a new one each week) showing Kerry debating himself.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2004, 06:08:20 PM »


They tried my segment on the daily show with Gov. Bush vs. President Bush. It was great!


How did Bush contradict himself?
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2004, 06:29:48 PM »

1. He said he was against nation building.

Yeah, and you probably think the Great Seal of the US is in contradiction by having one talon grasping an olive branch and the other grasping arrows....or the Declaration of Independence's statement of "Enemies in War, in Peace Friends".

Stop playing dumb, it's annoying.  Either you're a man and understand the implied threat of the statement "Don't mess with me and I won't mess with you" or else you have lace on your underwear.

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<<2. He said he would support the state's decisions if they decided to allow gay marriage.>>

Of course, the problem is that the courts are NOT respecting the decisions of the states.

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<Purple heart. He said that the economy hadn't improved and only the stock market had soared. In recent months he has said that the rising stock market was enough basis to declare that the economy was growing.>>

I don't remember either one of these statement.  Quote please.

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<<4. He also said once accidentally, so I hold this less against Bush, that I am not against abortion becuase it is right...
Those are the changes that I can name off of my head.>>

I don't understand this statement.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2004, 11:15:10 AM »

The courts have the right to make decisions on behalf of the state. Judges are experts on the law, and seldomly mess up, and gay marriage is not an issue in which they've messed up.

The Court does NOT speak for the legislature, it's a completely different branch of government.  As far as the court being "right", I guess that is why the Mass Leg passed a state constitutional amendment in order to override the courts decision.

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I remember that Bush used the stock market excuse in Republican debates in 2000, and you should recall his recent statement on it.
 Here is what he said about abortion:
I would have said yes to abortion if only it was right. I mean, yeah it's right. Well no it's not right that's why I said no to it.
-- South Carolina, Feb. 14, 2000


Here's a good Bush quote.

I had no idea we had so many weapons. What do we need them for?
-- Demonstrating grasp of America's nuclear weapons system, May, 2001

Here's another

I think we need not only to eliminate the tollbooth to the middle class, I think we should knock down the tollbooth.
-- Nashua, New Hampshire, as quoted by Gail Collins in the New York Times, Feb. 1, 2000

These aren't contradictions, they're misspoken babblings from a person that is not very articulate.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004, 11:28:11 AM »

Bush opposed campaign finance reform but signed it into law.

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Actually, Bush said that he would be willing to run decifits in the case of war or recession.  We had both at the same time.

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Only because activist courts are threatening the seperation of powers so that the will of state legislatures (and the people) is not being upheld.

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The "road map" is a red-herring.  We're still basically taking a hands-off approach.

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One question:  Is the funding higher now that before 9/11?  If so, he was kept his word.
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I'll have to take your word on this one.  But obviously bin Laden is not the end-all-be-all.

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Do you have a link?

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Yeah, after it was revealed NKorea had nukes.  But Bush is taking an extremely hard-line in the talks and is demanding NKorea end its WMD program before any new deals are made.

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I need a quote on this.  I can't see how Bush would have won the GOP nom by endorsing CO2 limits.

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Again, I need a quote.

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Was the bill modified between this statement and him signing it?
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2004, 11:34:48 AM »

In 2000, Bush ran as the islationist, Gore as the interventionist.  That didn't pan out.

As I posted earlier:  Yeah, and you probably think the Great Seal of the US is in contradiction by having one talon grasping an olive branch and the other grasping arrows....or the Declaration of Independence's statement of "Enemies in War, in Peace Friends".
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