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« Reply #525 on: November 15, 2011, 11:13:09 AM »

In case anyone wants to watch the Slovenia vs. USA game, here's the link.

Starts in about 45 minutes.
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« Reply #526 on: November 15, 2011, 11:23:00 AM »

Slovenia tied the US in Worlds right?

The only exciting qualifier is Bosnia v Portugal. I'm really rooting for Bosnia. Hope they can pull an upset! Remember that a 1-1 tie is enough to see them through.

I'm also hoping Sweden's streak of not losing against England since 1968 remains intact after today!
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« Reply #527 on: November 15, 2011, 11:27:49 AM »

Slovenia tied the US in Worlds right?

The only exciting qualifier is Bosnia v Portugal. I'm really rooting for Bosnia. Hope they can pull an upset! Remember that a 1-1 tie is enough to see them through.

I'm also hoping Sweden's streak of not losing against England since 1968 remains intact after today!

Yeah, Slovenia only played the US once so far (in the 2010 WC) and that game ended 2:2
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« Reply #528 on: November 15, 2011, 11:46:42 AM »

The most important thing happening today is the Germany-Holland match. I hope that's as good as it has the potential to be.
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« Reply #529 on: November 15, 2011, 11:57:54 AM »

I'm also hoping Sweden's streak of not losing against England since 1968 remains intact after today!

Because of the failure of the current management to take a stand against racism, so am I.
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« Reply #530 on: November 15, 2011, 12:09:32 PM »

In case anyone wants to watch the Slovenia vs. USA game, here's the link.

Starts in about 45 minutes.

Link is not working anymore. Try this.
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« Reply #531 on: November 15, 2011, 12:28:16 PM »

US scores first goal, after 8 minutes.
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« Reply #532 on: November 15, 2011, 12:32:18 PM »

I'm also hoping Sweden's streak of not losing against England since 1968 remains intact after today!

Because of the failure of the current management to take a stand against racism, so am I.

Right, read about that. Terry seems to be quite the troublemaker for the English team. Tongue
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« Reply #533 on: November 15, 2011, 12:38:30 PM »

Pretty foggy in Slovenia, you can't see much right now.

I also learned that there are 80.000 Slovenians living in Cleveland.
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« Reply #534 on: November 15, 2011, 12:46:03 PM »

Slovenia just scored.

1-1

(and now it should stay that way and my prediction would be fine)
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« Reply #535 on: November 15, 2011, 03:01:35 PM »

Italy apparently already down 0-1 to Uruguay after just three minutes. I should feel badly about not really caring about that game today but I don't. Tongue
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« Reply #536 on: November 15, 2011, 03:19:44 PM »

Ireland puts the icing on the cake: up 1-0 before half time. All other games are scoreless.
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« Reply #537 on: November 15, 2011, 03:49:42 PM »

USA wins 3-2, finally starts scoring some goals.

Also Germany is currently dominating the Dutch. Grin
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« Reply #538 on: November 15, 2011, 04:01:51 PM »

Croatia and Czech Republic are through to the Finals.
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« Reply #539 on: November 15, 2011, 04:16:30 PM »

Portugal up 1-0 after a Ronaldo goal in the eighth minute.
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« Reply #540 on: November 15, 2011, 04:26:26 PM »

Germany leading 3-0, lololol.
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« Reply #541 on: November 15, 2011, 04:35:51 PM »

Ireland returns to the Euros for the first time since 1988.

Looks like Italy is going down to Uruguay 0-1. Oh well. Not bad considering the injuries we have.
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« Reply #542 on: November 15, 2011, 05:02:31 PM »


First win against Holland since 1996!
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« Reply #543 on: November 15, 2011, 06:03:44 PM »

The Portugal-Bosnia game was insane. I didn't get to see it but following it on ESPN.com nearly gave me a heart attack.
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« Reply #544 on: November 15, 2011, 09:36:13 PM »

So now that everyone is set, the next big day is the group draw on December 2nd. The pots will look like this...


Euro 2012 Draw Pots

Pot 1

Rank Team Coeff
1 Ukraine 28,029
2 Poland 23,806
3 Spain 43,116
4 Netherlands 40,860

Pot 2
 
Rank Team Coeff
5 Germany 40,446
6 Italy 34,357
7 England 33,563
8 Russia 33,212

Pot 3
 
Rank Team Coeff
9 Croatia 33,003
10 Greece 32,455
11 Portugal 31,717
12 Sweden 31,675

Pot 4

Rank Team Coeff
13 Denmark 31,205
14 France 30,508
15 Czech Republic 29,602
16 Republic of Ireland 28,576


I'm hoping Italy gets Group A with Poland. The other two teams I'd like to see in the group: Greece and Ireland or France. I obviously want to avoid Spain and The Netherlands in the first round (especially because I'd love to face either of them in the Final) and Ukraine is a better team than Poland. I'd rather not have to fight Croatia or Portugal in the group stage so Greece is an ideal pick from Pot 2. (I wouldn't mind Sweden either). Our opposition from the fourth pot is going to be the trickiest but since Italy finds a way to screw up the easiest groups, I welcome a trickier team. France or Ireland would be great for that and they add the element of rivalry.

We could see an amazing Group of Death if Spain or The Netherlands, Germany and Portugal are forced into the same group.
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« Reply #545 on: November 15, 2011, 09:52:42 PM »

SPAIN, GERMANY, PORTUGAL, FRANCE group of death, gogogoogogo.
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« Reply #546 on: November 15, 2011, 09:59:16 PM »

SPAIN, GERMANY, PORTUGAL, FRANCE group of death, gogogoogogo.

Ugh. No. We can't have two powers out in the group stage.
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« Reply #547 on: November 16, 2011, 04:25:23 AM »

I doubt we can make it out of the group stage. The best group we can hope for would probably be:

Poland
Russia
Ireland

The fairest groups would probably be something like:

Poland
Germany
Croatia
Denmark

Spain
Russia
Sweden
France

Netherlands
England
Greece
Ireland

Ukraine
Italy
Portugal
Czech Rep

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Although, seeing Germany matched against Netherlands would also be cool.

Basically, pot 1, as always, has the biggest difference. Spain/Holland = bad, Ukraine/Poland = good.

In pot 2, Germany is the one people will be praying to avoid, Russia the one people pray to get. England and Italy are both erratic and always possible to score points off, but the German machine is awful to meet in a group stage. (I would prefer facing Germany rather than Italy in, say, a semi-final though).

In pot 3 it's sort of a wash I think. All the teams have strengths and weaknesses. If pressed I'd say Croatia and Portugal, in that order, are the teams to avoid though.

In pot 4 it's very hard to tell. I think Ireland is the one you want though. France has such good quality player-wise I wouldn't want to face them even with their poor record over the last few years.
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« Reply #548 on: November 16, 2011, 11:37:38 AM »

In pot 4 it's very hard to tell. I think Ireland is the one you want though. France has such good quality player-wise I wouldn't want to face them even with their poor record over the last few years.

I'd want to face Czech Republic over Ireland. Aside from their impressive showing in the playoff round, they've been rusty over the past few years. Their qualifying campaign was lackluster and they didn't even get to the World Cup last year.
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« Reply #549 on: November 16, 2011, 12:09:13 PM »

In pot 4 it's very hard to tell. I think Ireland is the one you want though. France has such good quality player-wise I wouldn't want to face them even with their poor record over the last few years.

I'd want to face Czech Republic over Ireland. Aside from their impressive showing in the playoff round, they've been rusty over the past few years. Their qualifying campaign was lackluster and they didn't even get to the World Cup last year.

Well, then again, neither did Ireland. Wink

The Czechs used to be good, so I might be overrating them. They were at least in last Euros. When was Ireland last in a tournament?
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