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« Reply #575 on: November 25, 2011, 10:05:09 AM »

Anyone who cares more about their national team than their club is not a real football fan. End of discussion.

This seems to assume that one has a club. Where I grew up everyone cheered for the Stockholm posh people team. A minority cheered for another team and got beaten up occasionally. I got beaten up by both for not really caring.

I guess I never really got into it. I don't really feel a connection to either the players or the fans of the local teams here.

Then you should have picked some suitably proletarian team from somewhere else (ideally somewhere with some sort of connection with you) and cheered for them instead. Obviously.

There are people who do that, of course. However, that strikes me as even MORE silly.

I didn't grow up being taken to games by my parents so I don't have a strong connection to any club, really. I have idiosyncratic likes and dislikes for certain teams based on perception, but since they're all commercial machines purchasing seventh-rate Brazilian players...it doesn't go very deep.
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« Reply #576 on: November 25, 2011, 10:13:41 AM »

Then I don't think you're taking things anywhere near seriously enough. Mind you, it is always an objectively good thing (proven by Science, I believe) to not support the posh club, if there is one.
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« Reply #577 on: November 25, 2011, 10:39:53 AM »

Then I don't think you're taking things anywhere near seriously enough. Mind you, it is always an objectively good thing (proven by Science, I believe) to not support the posh club, if there is one.

Oh, I see that point. Thing is, Stockholm has 3 clubs. The posh one I mentioned. The traditional workers' club which is now mostly supported by the faux proletariat (culture workers, PR-consultants in coloured scarfs and the like - although the stalwart alcoholics are still around as well). And then one which everyone hates. Their profile is the kind of club who relies on expensive foreign purchases from before that became kosher.

None of them appeals to me, although I like Hammarby's tradition of prefering stylish play and losing over bad play and losing over stylish play and winning. Tongue
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« Reply #578 on: November 25, 2011, 11:43:45 AM »

Anyone who cares more about their national team than their club is not a real football fan. End of discussion.

Understandable viewpoint coming from someone who is Welsh.


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« Reply #579 on: November 26, 2011, 06:23:24 AM »

Gustaf, you're just proving Al's original point: You are not a real football fan. There's nothing wrong with that, and people like you are what we have the World Cup and the Euros for, but it's a fact.
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« Reply #580 on: November 26, 2011, 03:22:15 PM »

Oh, Bosnia...

On s'était fait totalement balladé par eux au match retour, we didn't touch a ball, it was freaking luck we didn't lose against them. They have a beautiful and dynamic game, too bad they lost, and against Portugal moreover. I liked to imagine them as the big surprise of this Euro.
Hope they'll do it for World Cup.

The big surprise now would be that French players realize that playing with a ball is allowed...
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Gustaf
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« Reply #581 on: November 27, 2011, 07:40:17 PM »

Gustaf, you're just proving Al's original point: You are not a real football fan. There's nothing wrong with that, and people like you are what we have the World Cup and the Euros for, but it's a fact.

Nah, I disagree with that. I know the kind of people who only follow World Cup and Euros. They're certainly not real football fans.
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« Reply #582 on: November 28, 2011, 02:11:41 PM »

Yah, I know. The rule outlined really needs an exception for people from outside the big league countries.
Then again, do such people have a right to exist? Jury's still out...
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« Reply #583 on: December 01, 2011, 11:12:07 AM »

One day away. Just one day! Tomorrow is seriously one of the best days of the year. That's how much of a nerd I am.  Tongue
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« Reply #584 on: December 02, 2011, 10:51:41 AM »

Ten minutes to go!

I'm now starting to get this feeling that we're going to be stuck with Spain. Just no Group of Death (even though we seem to do well in those...) please!
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« Reply #585 on: December 02, 2011, 11:00:18 AM »

Ten minutes to go!

I'm now starting to get this feeling that we're going to be stuck with Spain. Just no Group of Death (even though we seem to do well in those...) please!

It's starting at 6 I guess, so in one hour ...
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« Reply #586 on: December 02, 2011, 11:03:08 AM »

Yeah, I was counting down until the start of the special on our Soccer channel (which is streaming British SKY Sports).  Tongue
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« Reply #587 on: December 02, 2011, 11:07:55 AM »

Even within the official 2 hour thingy the first 80 minutes will probably be all fluff.
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« Reply #588 on: December 02, 2011, 11:09:19 AM »

Even within the official 2 hour thingy the first 80 minutes will probably be all fluff.


As I've just learned. They're talking about Al's silly Premier League team coach replacement.  Sad
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« Reply #589 on: December 02, 2011, 11:21:07 AM »

Let's try a prediction:

Group A

Poland
Ireland
Sweden
Germany

Group B

Holland
Czech Republic
Croatia
Russia

Group C

Spain
France
Greece
Italy

Group D

Ukraine
Denmark
Portugal
England
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« Reply #590 on: December 02, 2011, 11:31:56 AM »

Let's try a prediction:

Austria will win at worst one fewer point than last time.
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« Reply #591 on: December 02, 2011, 11:45:16 AM »

Let's try a prediction:

Austria will win at worst one fewer point than last time.

Stop joking, because you guys will get obliterated by Austria next time when we meet for the 2014 World Cup qualification ... Wink
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« Reply #592 on: December 02, 2011, 11:47:11 AM »

Let's try a prediction:

Austria will win at worst one fewer point than last time.

Stop joking, because you guys will get obliterated by Austria next time when we meet for the 2014 World Cup qualification ... Wink
Hopefully. Smiley
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« Reply #593 on: December 02, 2011, 12:06:21 PM »

Why the hell is Pot 2 being drawn fourth? UEFA is obviously trying to match FIFA in silliness.
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« Reply #594 on: December 02, 2011, 12:07:58 PM »

Why the hell is Pot 2 being drawn fourth? UEFA is obviously trying to match FIFA in silliness.

Maybe because they want the best pot to be saved for last.
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« Reply #595 on: December 02, 2011, 12:13:40 PM »

They can't draw pot 1 last because the really suspenseful question (do we get an easy or a hard group) would be answered before the draw anyways.
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« Reply #596 on: December 02, 2011, 12:30:45 PM »

I love SKY: "No Ukrainian folk dancing" on their broadcast.
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« Reply #597 on: December 02, 2011, 12:42:40 PM »

Thank God I put on the ESPN stream. SKY isn't showing the stream live; just doing their commentary as they get word of the teams drawn.
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« Reply #598 on: December 02, 2011, 12:45:50 PM »

France lucks out. Looks like I want Group D now just a bit more than A.
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« Reply #599 on: December 02, 2011, 12:52:27 PM »

Wow. Group A is a joke.
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