Mike Castle for President

[Progressive]

Could he run as an Independent or as a moderate GOP in 2012???

[Joe Republic]

Do you want the long answer or the short answer?

[Progressive]

Do you want the long answer or the short answer?

Long

[RIP Robert H Bork]

No, certainly not after what's happened to him 2 days ago.

Having lost to a more conservative challenger already, he certainly won't be able to convice the moderate wing of the party that they actually have a chance.

[Skill and Chance]

They wouldn't let that happen.  Worst case scenario for the GOP is Palin or someone right of her winning all the early primaries, but they should be smarter than that.  

[Joe Republic]

Do you want the long answer or the short answer?

Long

Okay:  No he will not.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     No; moderates don't win the GOP nomination these days.

[Progressive]

The emphasis was on the Independent not really on the GOP part of the statement. Could he run as an independent

[Associate Justice PiT]

     He could run, of course. Unless he won the lottery & the GOP nominated Palin, he would not even come close to 1%. Even if that happened, he would have a ceiling of 5%.

[Mr. Morden]

Wait, so this thread wasn't posted by WalterMitty?

[DS0816]

Could he run as an Independent or as a moderate GOP in 2012???

In what year, and in which decade?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Beside, he'd quite old.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Beside, he'd quite old.

This.  His age has a lot going against him.  By 2012 he'll be in his late 70's, I believe putting the completion of his first term in his early 80's.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Beside, he'd quite old.

This.  His age has a lot going against him.  By 2012 he'll be in his late 70's, I believe putting the completion of his first term in his early 80's.

Yes. It's doesn't really matter if he could win (ad Indy, of course not), but if he'd be able to do a proper campaigning.

[pbrower2a]

Watch him get a position in the Obama administration.

[DS0816]

Could he run as an Independent or as a moderate GOP in 2012???

dude, even Nixon wouldn't have the ability to resurrect himself after the defeat Castle just took.

A preview of more to come from this current Tea, er Republican, Party.

[Eraserhead]

Wait, so this thread wasn't posted by WalterMitty?

^^^^
lol. He could run as an independent but how he would get anyone to care about his campaign is beyond my realm of thinking.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Watch him get a position in the Obama administration.

I doubt Castle, at his age, after such painful end of a long career, would think now about anything but retirement.

[milhouse24]

He should run, what has he got to lose?

[MaxQue]

He should run, what has he got to lose?

Time. He is old, he should enjoy his retirement.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This might be dumber than the prospect of Evan Bayh running as an indy and taking over 20%.

[Poundingtherock]

Hopefully he'll help O'donnell get elected by running as a write-in candidate.

[California8429]

let's say there's a Castle-Bayh ticket, I know it won't happen, but say it's there. And they get some support from Bloomberg, Chafee, Crist, etc. Would they win any states?

[milhouse24]

let's say there's a Castle-Bayh ticket, I know it won't happen, but say it's there. And they get some support from Bloomberg, Chafee, Crist, etc. Would they win any states?

Well, I think Castle would run as a Republican because he still is a Republican.  Plus, he has some strong regional influence and the lifetime experience to serve as a VP contender.  There have been far older people like tommy thompson who have tried running for president. 

The independent movement by Bloomberg seems kinda silly to me.  Being a "moderate" may sound great as a sales pitch, but it literally means "nothing" because voters won't know where you stand on the issues.  Bloomberg is pro-gun control and basically very liberal on most issues.  Its up to the "independent" to pick and choose whatever issue he wants to side with, making him a constituency of one person. 

The Tea Party Movement is nothing radical, its basically about getting rid of incumbents and bringing in new people that will shrink govt.  Most Big-spending Iraq-war loving GOP Senators are done because they no longer care about small govt.  They Tea Party may be rowdy, but it is a grassroots party, unlike the crusty old republican leaders.  At one time, the Democrats were seen as the party of the blue-collar union workers.

But I do think established politicians who have served can survive as Independents because they have a record on the issues and voters agree with them on those issues from their past elections.  But there is no way a completely new politician can win the Presidency on the Independent Ticket, even Ross Perot failed.

But I do think Evan Bayh would have a strong showing as a Republican because he was very conservative on social issues, and social conservatives have more sway in the GOP than fiscal conservatives.  In fact, I think Bayh as the GOP VP could ensure a Republican victory.

[Smash255]

let's say there's a Castle-Bayh ticket, I know it won't happen, but say it's there. And they get some support from Bloomberg, Chafee, Crist, etc. Would they win any states?

Well, I think Castle would run as a Republican because he still is a Republican.  Plus, he has some strong regional influence and the lifetime experience to serve as a VP contender.  There have been far older people like tommy thompson who have tried running for president. 

The independent movement by Bloomberg seems kinda silly to me.  Being a "moderate" may sound great as a sales pitch, but it literally means "nothing" because voters won't know where you stand on the issues.  Bloomberg is pro-gun control and basically very liberal on most issues.  Its up to the "independent" to pick and choose whatever issue he wants to side with, making him a constituency of one person. 

The Tea Party Movement is nothing radical, its basically about getting rid of incumbents and bringing in new people that will shrink govt.  Most Big-spending Iraq-war loving GOP Senators are done because they no longer care about small govt.  They Tea Party may be rowdy, but it is a grassroots party, unlike the crusty old republican leaders.  At one time, the Democrats were seen as the party of the blue-collar union workers.

But I do think established politicians who have served can survive as Independents because they have a record on the issues and voters agree with them on those issues from their past elections.  But there is no way a completely new politician can win the Presidency on the Independent Ticket, even Ross Perot failed.

But I do think Evan Bayh would have a strong showing as a Republican because he was very conservative on social issues, and social conservatives have more sway in the GOP than fiscal conservatives.  In fact, I think Bayh as the GOP VP could ensure a Republican victory.

Incorrect.  Tommy Thompson is actually younger than McCain.  Thompson would have been 67 in 2008, McCain was 72.  Castle would be 73 if he were to run in 2012.

Even aside from all of that the Republican Party has gone too far off the deep end to nominate someone like Castle.  Even a few years ago he was too liberal to win a GOP Presidential Primary.  Now, the Party has gone even further right.  If he can't win a Primary to someone who is clinically insane in Delaware of all places he sure as hell doesn't have a chance of winning a Primary or even being remotely competitive with the national GOP electorate, which is uber right wing.

Bayh would not satisfy the right wingers, considering what the base of the GOP now is, Bayh would be considered a baby killing homo loving Socialist by the base of the GOP.