Pence wins Values Voter Summit straw poll

[Eraserhead]

Seriously, Mike Pence? He is undoubtedly one of the stupidest members of Congress. Listen to him do an interview or something; there's nothing up there.

He's also boring as all hell.

Anyway, how did the Paulities not get into this thing?

[Yelnoc]

Seriously, Mike Pence? He is undoubtedly one of the stupidest members of Congress. Listen to him do an interview or something; there's nothing up there.

He's also boring as all hell.

Anyway, how did the Paulities not get into this thing?

Nope.  The Paulites arent "Values Voters".

[redcommander]

Pence - 24%
Huckabee - (22%)
Romney - (13%)
Gingrich - (10%)
Palin - (7%)

Wonder what this will do to the Intrade rankings of Pence and Huckabee . . .

Whew, when I didn't see Romney even on Top 5, I was getting worried. Thank heavens he was at least third! Not bad considering the people who were voting in this. What makes me even more happy is that only 7% voted for Palin.

You can take my word for it that Romney is one of the worst governors Massachusetts has had within living memory, and he'd be an equally awful president.  That's not my ideology speaking - I nearly always prefer Republican governors - he was just objectively an awful governor.

He wasn't a horrible governor. Die hard Republicans just like to bitch about him after 2008, because he actually tried to give healthcare to his state's citizens. Republicans in general don't give a crap that millions of Americans can't afford coverage. The only Republican in Washington that has creativity on the healthcare issue and everything else is basically Paul Ryan. But seriously Mike Pence! That guy is such a bore, and a neo-con. Figures the Values Voters would vote for him and Huckabee. Afterall they have to make sure Jesus will be able to return to Israel rather than a Palestinian controlled state on judgment day.

[tpfkaw]

I live in Massachusetts, friendo.  I do not know anyone, of any ideological persuasion, who thinks that Mitt Romney did a satisfactory job as governor.  After being elected by lying about his supposed principles, he proceeded to spend his entire term in office outside the state, running for President and joking about what a stupid liberal state Massachusetts is (yes, really).  By the way, the healthcare thing, his one big initiative, has turned out to be a complete disaster.

[President Mitt]

He wasn't a horrible governor.

Well, you may think that, but Massachusetts people, AKA, the people who matter, would disagree with you.

moron

That's not a very nice word.

[redcommander]

I live in Massachusetts, friendo.  I do not know anyone, of any ideological persuasion, who thinks that Mitt Romney did a satisfactory job as governor.  After being elected by lying about his supposed principles, he proceeded to spend his entire term in office outside the state, running for President and joking about what a stupid liberal state Massachusetts is (yes, really).  By the way, the healthcare thing, his one big initiative, has turned out to be a complete disaster.

So who else are Republicans supposed to nominate for President then? Right now there are slim pickings for them in candidates. The electoral map is stacked against them, and they can't take the risk of nominating someone from the deep south, or Sunbelt again that won't help them win back areas they need. Daniels is boring, Thune is a theocrat, Paul isn't acceptable to the majority of Republicans, Palin is off her meds, Pawlenty is too bland, Huckabee is too folksy, and Barbour is too connected with corruption. Christie is too green to make a run yet, and Scott Brown is focusing on reelction in 2012.

[tpfkaw]

Mitt Romney is the Republican version of John Kerry.  He's no more electable than any of the others.  The GOP may have to look to this cycle - Chris Christie or Marco Rubio - to find an electable candidate.

[DS0816]

Mitt Romney is the Republican version of John Kerry.  He's no more electable than any of the others.  The GOP may have to look to this cycle - Chris Christie or Marco Rubio - to find an electable candidate.

Chris Christie is incompetent.

Marco Rubio is an extremist.

[??????????]

Chris Christie is incompetent.

Marco Rubio is an extremist.

Inane hackery.

[DS0816]

Chris Christie is incompetent.

Marco Rubio is an extremist.

Inane hackery.

If you say so.

[tpfkaw]

Chris Christie is incompetent.

Marco Rubio is an extremist.

Inane hackery.

[Bull Moose Base]

I enjoy when the same party who hammered Obama on being too inexperienced to be president now excitedly touts a state legislator from Florida as up to the job or a guy who has been governor of NJ for 8 months.

[tpfkaw]

Hillary Clinton?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Pence could unify the party and rally the base but provide little beyond that. I think he would be a better Minority Leader/Speaker.


We don't have a really good candidate. That is one of the reasons I am not to excited about the GOP chances of defeating Obama.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Seriously, Mike Pence? He is undoubtedly one of the stupidest members of Congress. Listen to him do an interview or something; there's nothing up there.

Interesting.  I've never heard him speak.

[tpfkaw]

DeMint is probably a better candidate than Pence.

[StateBoiler]

So who else are Republicans supposed to nominate for President then? Right now there are slim pickings for them in candidates. The electoral map is stacked against them, and they can't take the risk of nominating someone from the deep south, or Sunbelt again that won't help them win back areas they need. Daniels is boring, Thune is a theocrat, Paul isn't acceptable to the majority of Republicans, Palin is off her meds, Pawlenty is too bland, Huckabee is too folksy, and Barbour is too connected with corruption. Christie is too green to make a run yet, and Scott Brown is focusing on reelction in 2012.

Huckabee. I think it'd be incredibly difficult for Obama to face Huckabee due to Huckabee's fiscal points of view. Obama can't describe him as your stereotypical Republican tax cutter for the rich.

[tpfkaw]

So who else are Republicans supposed to nominate for President then? Right now there are slim pickings for them in candidates. The electoral map is stacked against them, and they can't take the risk of nominating someone from the deep south, or Sunbelt again that won't help them win back areas they need. Daniels is boring, Thune is a theocrat, Paul isn't acceptable to the majority of Republicans, Palin is off her meds, Pawlenty is too bland, Huckabee is too folksy, and Barbour is too connected with corruption. Christie is too green to make a run yet, and Scott Brown is focusing on reelction in 2012.

Huckabee. I think it'd be incredibly difficult for Obama to face Huckabee due to Huckabee's fiscal points of view. Obama can't describe him as your stereotypical Republican tax cutter for the rich.

He will anyway.  Besides, the "tax cutter for the rich" line of attack doesn't really resonate with anyone except for people who would already vote Democratic anyway.

[Mr. Morden]

Seriously, Mike Pence? He is undoubtedly one of the stupidest members of Congress. Listen to him do an interview or something; there's nothing up there.

Interesting.  I've never heard him speak.

I dunno.  He doesn't sound particularly bad in most interviews I've seen.....like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9nSUe0zGF6A&feature=channel

Seems pretty average by the standard of most members of Congress.

[Mr. Morden]

Btw, The Hill is reporting that House GOP sources say Pence is likely to run for either president or governor in 2012:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/120719-pence-is-likely-to-seek-higher-office-say-fellow-republicans-

and that there's a good chance he won't run for a leadership position in the new House, regardless of whether the GOP takes the majority.  Kevin McCarthy and Pete Sessions are mentioned as possible candidates for Majority Whip if the GOP takes the majority.

[Yelnoc]

Btw, The Hill is reporting that House GOP sources say Pence is likely to run for either president or governor in 2012:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/120719-pence-is-likely-to-seek-higher-office-say-fellow-republicans-

and that there's a good chance he won't run for a leadership position in the new House, regardless of whether the GOP takes the majority.  Kevin McCarthy and Pete Sessions are mentioned as possible candidates for Majority Whip if the GOP takes the majority.

I can see him running for Governor in 2012.  He will only be 53.  Two successful terms as governor could make him a competitor for the nomination in 2020.