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« on: October 05, 2010, 11:05:33 AM »
« edited: October 06, 2010, 06:58:02 PM by Lunar »

Oct. 16th

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/10/obama_expected.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 11:50:55 AM »

Hey, it worked for Coakley.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 12:03:24 PM »


I was going try and to cut off the Coakley joke at the start, but I figured "F- it, people are gonna make it anyway and I'm busy"
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 12:39:38 PM »


I was going try and to cut off the Coakley joke at the start, but I figured "F- it, people are gonna make it anyway and I'm busy"

Not so much a joke as a point. Bringing in Obama is the wrong move -- Clinton would be much less polarizing.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 02:13:53 PM »

I see Patrick has taken a page out of Coakley's "how to fire up your opponents' base and not influence people" playbook.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 02:40:46 PM »


I was going try and to cut off the Coakley joke at the start, but I figured "F- it, people are gonna make it anyway and I'm busy"

Not so much a joke as a point. Bringing in Obama is the wrong move -- Clinton would be much less polarizing.

Yeah, another part of New England got that...but of course, Obama & Clinton aren't technically mutually exclusive

( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzW72Loff8 )
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 02:50:08 PM »

Coakley didn't lose because Obama campaigned a little for her. She lost because she was a terrible candidate and Brown was a great candidate...  and because it was a special election. I don't see how this would do anything but help Patrick a tiny bit.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 02:58:01 PM »

Coakley didn't lose because Obama campaigned a little for her. She lost because she was a terrible candidate and Brown was a great candidate...  and because it was a special election. I don't see how this would do anything but help Patrick a tiny bit.

Maybe it was a coincidence that Corzine, Deeds, and Coakley all saw their numbers dive in polls immediately after an Obama visit. Maybe.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 03:05:17 PM »

Well, he has to campaign for Somebody.  Otherwise he'll look bad.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 03:08:45 PM »

Well, he has to campaign for Somebody.  Otherwise he'll look bad.

He should really campaign for Shumlin. He'd no doubt help him out.

As for what Moderate posted, I'd check to see if all of that was accurate but that's a little more useless work than I can handle at the moment. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 03:10:46 PM »

Coakley didn't lose because Obama campaigned a little for her. She lost because she was a terrible candidate and Brown was a great candidate...  and because it was a special election. I don't see how this would do anything but help Patrick a tiny bit.

Maybe it was a coincidence that Corzine, Deeds, and Coakley all saw their numbers dive in polls immediately after an Obama visit. Maybe.

Corzine lost because he was extremely unpopular (I could just as easily say that Christie's margin of victory would've been slightly greater if Obama never campaigned for Corzine), Deeds was always going to lose by a large margin, and Coakley lost because she was a crappy candidate and Scott Brown was an excellent one.  BTW, Coakley's numbers went into free-fall well before Obama came to campaign for her (otherwise, he wouldn't have been taking time to campaign for her in the first place).
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 05:03:19 PM »

stop hacking. IMO, people in massachussets still have a positive view of their president. I think his approvals there are in the high 50s. but even if only 45-48% of the people like him, he'll help patrick. remember that coakley needed 50% of the votes to win, but patrick could win with about 45% of the vote.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 05:13:58 PM »

Ironically, I kind of like Patrick.  I don't think Obama will help.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2010, 05:52:34 PM »


Maybe it was a coincidence that Corzine, Deeds, and Coakley all saw their numbers dive in polls immediately after an Obama visit. Maybe.

I thought Coakley's numbers perked up a few points in those last few days between Obama's visit and the election. Didn't he appear very late in the campaign?
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2010, 05:54:51 PM »

Coakley didn't lose because Obama campaigned a little for her. She lost because she was a terrible candidate and Brown was a great candidate...  and because it was a special election. I don't see how this would do anything but help Patrick a tiny bit.

Maybe it was a coincidence that Corzine, Deeds, and Coakley all saw their numbers dive in polls immediately after an Obama visit. Maybe.

How could you tell with Deeds?
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 06:27:03 PM »

It won't effect Patrick poorly, if anything it could bring out some more people to the polls. Not everyone dislikes the President, that's a common misconception by some.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 06:33:38 PM »

Ironically, I kind of like Patrick.  I don't think Obama will help.

I don't dislike Patrick - I think he's done as good a job as he could have been reasonably expected to, and he's mainly a victim of having been in the wrong place at the wrong time.  That said, I like Baker much better.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2010, 06:58:11 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2010/10/obama_headed_to_oregon_to_camp.html#comment-12539746
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