Nixon 1960!

[tmthforu94]

Two great tickets again! Go Reagan!

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Two great tickets again! Go Reagan!

Jackson is actually one of my favorite Democrats. I first heard about him in "The Second term of Gerald Ford" and later read about him when I was researching the 1976 Presidential Election.

I'm still working on the beliefs of the two major parties. I'm trying to make the Democrats transform into a Jack Kemp type party, with belief in supply-side economics, but also a belief in fighting poverty, and the Republicans being more like Eisenhower and Rockefeller.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The Seond Term of Ronald Reagan

Upon taking the Oath of Office for a second time, Reagan decided to re-organize his cabinet, which he had left unchanged from 1971 to 1972. Leaving the cabinet were Attorney General Robert F Kennedy and Secretary of the Treasury Hubert H Humphrey. Joining the cabinet were little known New York Lawyer and Democrat Rudy Giuliai, recently re-elected Democratic Congressman Jack Kemp, former Michigan Governor Republican George Romney, former Whitehouse Communications Director Pat Buchanan, and others.

Vice-President: Henry M Jackson
Secretary of State: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Rudolph Giuliani
Secretary of Health and Human Services: George Romney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jack Kemp
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Paul Wolfowitz
Director of the FBI: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Patrick J Buchanan

Wallace, a surprise pick for Secretary fo Education, a Department recently created by Reagan, was chosen because, despite all his segregationist rhetoric, he had done good things in Alabama, especially concernign education. Some said he was also chosen as Education Secretary in order to diffuse a possible Wallace run in 1976 against Reagan who was eligible for a third term.

Reagan basically continued the work he had done in his first term, with cutting taxes, attempting to make government more efficient, and trying to fight poverty using free market forces. The idea of "free enterprise zones" was originally put forth by HUD Secretary Jack Kemp, and the idea was that business could be attracted to Urban areas by giving tax cuts to those businesses, and making it a requirement that they emply people from the area where they are doing business.

While inidvidual efforts by Reagan might have bewen successful, over all, the economy continued its downward trend, which was caused by Volcker's government induced recession, which he claimed would get rid of stagflation by the end of. "Well, it better end pretty fast, cause there are tons of out-of-work Americans out there" Reagan siad in a more tense moment to Volcker.

Cambodia, meanwhile, became a bloodbath with more and more troops dying over there. Reagan decided to finally sit down with his foreign policy team and say "Look, we need a strategy of victory, not just survival". Thus began something called the "Troop Surge" which would slowly retake and clear sections of Cambodia.

In one of the greatest triumphs for many Adminsitrations before, and to come, Reagan was teh President presiding when man first landed on the moon. Many space expeditions had taken place under Kennedy and Nixon, however, this was the first that involved landing on a surface other than Earth's. The Apollo 15 Mission and Moon Landing from July 4th, 1974, to July 9th, 1974, was the most exciting event thus far in Reagan's Presidency.

The Moon Landing and Apollo 15 Mission (July 4th, 1974 to July 9th, 1974), was one of President Reagan's greatest accomplishments

In Cuba, the situation had really died down since 1962, and had taken to the backburner, both in the media, and in Presidents' agendas. By 1974, with a working government and elections, and with a set up educational system and a working free market, Reagan was ready to call Head of the Department of Cuban Reconstruction, Robert P Anderson, home. On July 19, 1974, the Department of Cuban Reconstruction officially closed its doors and most of the workers there went home. Now, finally having time to rest after his twelve years in Cuba, Anderson had other plans. Plans that could very well affect the future of the nation. By September, Anderson had applied for membership into the Council on Foreign Relations based in New York City and, as the economy continued its downward slope, was already thinking about the future...

[feeblepizza]

The Seond Term of Ronald Reagan

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Upon taking the Oath of Office for a second time, Reagan decided to re-organize his cabinet, which he had left unchanged from 1971 to 1972. Leaving the cabinet were Attorney General Robert F Kennedy and Secretary of the Treasury Hubert H Humphrey. Joining the cabinet were Reagan's friend from California Edwin Meese, recently re-elected Democratic Congressman Jack Kemp, former Michigan Governor Republican George Romney, former Whitehouse Communications Director Pat Buchanan, and others.

Vice-President: Henry M Jackson
Secretary of State: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Edwin Meese
Secretary of Health and Human Services: George Romney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jack Kemp
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Paul Wolfowitz
Director of the FBI: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Patrick J Buchanan

Wallace, a surprise pick for Secretary fo Education, a Department recently created by Reagan, was chosen because, despite all his segregationist rhetoric, he had done good things in Alabama, especially concernign education. Some said he was also chosen as Education Secretary in order to diffuse a possible Wallace run in 1976 against Reagan who was eligible for a third term.

Meese was a Republican, even if Reagan was a Democrat.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The Seond Term of Ronald Reagan

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Upon taking the Oath of Office for a second time, Reagan decided to re-organize his cabinet, which he had left unchanged from 1971 to 1972. Leaving the cabinet were Attorney General Robert F Kennedy and Secretary of the Treasury Hubert H Humphrey. Joining the cabinet were Reagan's friend from California Edwin Meese, recently re-elected Democratic Congressman Jack Kemp, former Michigan Governor Republican George Romney, former Whitehouse Communications Director Pat Buchanan, and others.

Vice-President: Henry M Jackson
Secretary of State: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Edwin Meese
Secretary of Health and Human Services: George Romney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jack Kemp
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Paul Wolfowitz
Director of the FBI: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Patrick J Buchanan

Wallace, a surprise pick for Secretary fo Education, a Department recently created by Reagan, was chosen because, despite all his segregationist rhetoric, he had done good things in Alabama, especially concernign education. Some said he was also chosen as Education Secretary in order to diffuse a possible Wallace run in 1976 against Reagan who was eligible for a third term.

Meese was a Republican, even if Reagan was a Democrat.

I really didn't have any idea on who to choose for Attorney General. Do you know of any politician that would be qualified to handle that who was a Democrat? Besides, when did Reagan meet Meese?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The Seond Term of Ronald Reagan

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Upon taking the Oath of Office for a second time, Reagan decided to re-organize his cabinet, which he had left unchanged from 1971 to 1972. Leaving the cabinet were Attorney General Robert F Kennedy and Secretary of the Treasury Hubert H Humphrey. Joining the cabinet were Reagan's friend from California Edwin Meese, recently re-elected Democratic Congressman Jack Kemp, former Michigan Governor Republican George Romney, former Whitehouse Communications Director Pat Buchanan, and others.

Vice-President: Henry M Jackson
Secretary of State: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Edwin Meese
Secretary of Health and Human Services: George Romney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jack Kemp
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Paul Wolfowitz
Director of the FBI: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Patrick J Buchanan

Wallace, a surprise pick for Secretary fo Education, a Department recently created by Reagan, was chosen because, despite all his segregationist rhetoric, he had done good things in Alabama, especially concernign education. Some said he was also chosen as Education Secretary in order to diffuse a possible Wallace run in 1976 against Reagan who was eligible for a third term.

Meese was a Republican, even if Reagan was a Democrat.

I really didn't have any idea on who to choose for Attorney General. Do you know of any politician that would be qualified to handle that who was a Democrat? Besides, when did Reagan meet Meese?

Okay, If you want a Democrat, I'm going to make little known Democratic lawyer Rudolph W Giuliani of New York Attorney General.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The Second Term of Ronald W Reagan Part Two

In the 1974 Mid-term elections, Republicans made huge gains. In New York, former New York City Mayor John Lindsay won the race to rplace retiring Governor Nelson Rockefeller even though several people despised Lindsay and teh horrible job he did in New York City. In California, Governor Robert Finch was easily re-elected against Democratic opponent, California Secretary of State Jerry Brown. In that same state, former Congressman Barry Goldwater Jr. won election once again to the House seat he had served for two years, four years ago. He had decided to run for Governor of California in 1970 rather than run for re-electioin, but had lost in the primaries to former Secretary of Defense Robert Finch. Goldwater was now setting his cited on the Governorship, which would be open in four years, and if the Republican Party wouldn't nominate him, he'd find another party that would. In Massachusetts, Cognressman Ted Kennedy won election to the Governor's seat, running against incumbent Republican John Volpe in a strong year for Republicans. In Alaska, Democratic Senator Mike Gravel lost re-election to Republican Clyde Lewis. In Texas, first time candidate Dr. Ron Paul won election to the House of Representatives as an Independent, a surprise too many pollsters who had chosen to focus on the election. Paul had been endorsed by Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater and famous Libertarians John Hospers. The Democratic losses were seen as being due to the fact that the economy was steadily declining and that the "police action" in Cambodia was not popular.

Despite Democratic losses, they made one major gain, and that was in New York, where former Attorney General Robert F Kennedy, who had moved to New York since leaving the Reeagan Adminsitration, won a place in the Senate, beating Republican Jacob Javitts. He was conisdered a possible Presidential contender in 1984 or 1988. When questioned on his brother's win and the possibility of Robert runnign for the Presidency, former President John F Kennedy said "Well, of course I would support my brother. He has great character and the right ideals. As far as qualification goes, he was qulaified six years ago."

In Cambodia though, the war was slowly improving. Casualties had dropped for their first time in months and hostages were decreasing. As for Cuba, with the Department for Cuban Reconstruction non-existent, things were still going as they should have been, but no-one knew how long that would go on.

As for the economy, Reagan was becoming increasingly inpatient with Volcker and his government induced recession, though Volcker was continually trying to re-assure Reagan that he only had to wait until 1975, and then things would turn around. Reagan was getting ready to make volcker himself joing the steadily increasing masses of the unemployed.



In February of 1975, economists predicted that the recession had finally bottomed out, and that it would be up from there on. People were certainly praying for that. By May, signs of progress seemed to be showing, with unamployment numbers decreasing slightly, and the stock markets having a few up-ticks. By June, Reagan officially proclaimed "We are on the road to recovery, and it seemed true, with unemployment numbers droopping and the economy rising. However, no-one was going to call the recession over with 9% unemployment. Volcker was saying to Reagan "I'm telling you, by 1980, the stock market will have doubled, and the unamployment numbers will have halved"

In 1976, as the economy slowly recovered, President Ronald Reagan announced that he would not run for re-election. "Six years is quite long enough for me to be President, and I feel that it would not be right to spend the next year of my Presidency campaigning while American troops are still dying in Cambodia and while our economy is still in need of recovery." This left an open field in both parties. The candidates for the Democratic nominations were:

Vice-President Henry M Jackson
Former Treasury Secretary Hubert H Humphrey
Arizona Congressman Morris K Udall
former Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter
Education Secretary George Wallace

As for the Republicans, the first person to announce his candidacy was former Head of the Department for Cuban Reconstruction Robert P Anderson, saying "I ran Cuba for twelve years, didn't I. Don't you think I can run the United States for four?" before a crowd of supporters. The second was former Vice-President and Michigan Senator Gerald R Ford, who was saying "This'll be my year" the entire list of candidates for the Republican nomination was:

Michigan Senator Gerald R Ford
Former Head of the Department for Cuban Reconstruction Robert P Anderson
Texas Senator George Bush
Illinois Congressman Donald Rumsfeld
Kansas Senator Robert Dole
California Governor Robert Finch

In a surprise, Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater announced his candidacy as a Libertarian. He chose one-term Congressman Ron Paul of Texas for Vice-President. His initial polling was hard to guage, measuring between ten and twenty five percent.

The Democrats easily nominated Vice-President Henry M Jackson despite Liberal support for Congressman Udall. Jackson chose freshman Senator from New York, Robert F Kennedy, for Vice-President. The Republicans had a much harder time nominating a candidate, with Anderson garnering just enough support to drag the primaries all the way to the convention, However, there, former President Richard Nixon gave his support to his former Vice-President, and Ford was nominated on the second ballot. In order to unite the party, he chose Anderson for Vice-President.

Because Goldwater was able to consistently poll above fifteen percent, he was allowed in the debates. There were three, and all three candidates did well in them. However, Ford came out looking the weakest because he had attempted to nail Jackson on the economy when it was on the road to recovery.

On election night, there would be no clear winner.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

The Seond Term of Ronald Reagan

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Upon taking the Oath of Office for a second time, Reagan decided to re-organize his cabinet, which he had left unchanged from 1971 to 1972. Leaving the cabinet were Attorney General Robert F Kennedy and Secretary of the Treasury Hubert H Humphrey. Joining the cabinet were Reagan's friend from California Edwin Meese, recently re-elected Democratic Congressman Jack Kemp, former Michigan Governor Republican George Romney, former Whitehouse Communications Director Pat Buchanan, and others.

Vice-President: Henry M Jackson
Secretary of State: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Edwin Meese
Secretary of Health and Human Services: George Romney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jack Kemp
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Paul Wolfowitz
Director of the FBI: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Patrick J Buchanan

Wallace, a surprise pick for Secretary fo Education, a Department recently created by Reagan, was chosen because, despite all his segregationist rhetoric, he had done good things in Alabama, especially concernign education. Some said he was also chosen as Education Secretary in order to diffuse a possible Wallace run in 1976 against Reagan who was eligible for a third term.

Meese was a Republican, even if Reagan was a Democrat.

I really didn't have any idea on who to choose for Attorney General. Do you know of any politician that would be qualified to handle that who was a Democrat? Besides, when did Reagan meet Meese?

Okay, If you want a Democrat, I'm going to make little known Democratic lawyer Rudolph W Giuliani of New York Attorney General.

Why does it have to be a Democrat? Reagan already served as Nixon's press secretary, and it certainly seems like the distinction between the two parties is blurred. I think ITTL Reagan would choose someone who is qualified, regardless of party.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The Seond Term of Ronald Reagan

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Upon taking the Oath of Office for a second time, Reagan decided to re-organize his cabinet, which he had left unchanged from 1971 to 1972. Leaving the cabinet were Attorney General Robert F Kennedy and Secretary of the Treasury Hubert H Humphrey. Joining the cabinet were Reagan's friend from California Edwin Meese, recently re-elected Democratic Congressman Jack Kemp, former Michigan Governor Republican George Romney, former Whitehouse Communications Director Pat Buchanan, and others.

Vice-President: Henry M Jackson
Secretary of State: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Edwin Meese
Secretary of Health and Human Services: George Romney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jack Kemp
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Paul Wolfowitz
Director of the FBI: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Patrick J Buchanan

Wallace, a surprise pick for Secretary fo Education, a Department recently created by Reagan, was chosen because, despite all his segregationist rhetoric, he had done good things in Alabama, especially concernign education. Some said he was also chosen as Education Secretary in order to diffuse a possible Wallace run in 1976 against Reagan who was eligible for a third term.

Meese was a Republican, even if Reagan was a Democrat.

I really didn't have any idea on who to choose for Attorney General. Do you know of any politician that would be qualified to handle that who was a Democrat? Besides, when did Reagan meet Meese?

Okay, If you want a Democrat, I'm going to make little known Democratic lawyer Rudolph W Giuliani of New York Attorney General.

Why does it have to be a Democrat? Reagan already served as Nixon's press secretary, and it certainly seems like the distinction between the two parties is blurred. I think ITTL Reagan would choose someone who is qualified, regardless of party.

Right. As of right now, both parties are a lot more moderate than they are today in real life.
As for Attorney General, I've already changed it to Giuliani, and I don't feel like changing it back (hard work, I know, right?), and I probably won'tchange it back unless there's some sort of public out cry.

I'm glad that this TL is at least generating some sort of response.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The 1976 Presidential Election

Jackson/Kennedy: 263 electoral votes; 41.4%
Ford/Anderson: 263 electoral votes; 41.2%
Goldwater/Paul: 12 electoral votes; 16.3%

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Comments, Questions, Critiques, Complaints?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

In the House of Representatives, which is where the election went, Jackson won easily over the Republicans, despite Ford's clout with Congress, and in the Senate, Robert F Kennedy was made Vice-President of the United States of America

The First Term of Henry M Jackson

On January 20th, 1977, Vice-President Henry M Jackson was sworn in as the 38th President of the United States of America. He would continue the policies of the Reagan and Kennedy Administrations, even keeping several members of the Reagan cabinet. His cabinet included:

Vice-President: Robert F Kennedy
Secretary of State: Paul Wolfowitz
Secretary of the Treasury: Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Secretary of Defense: John Connally
Attorney General: Rudolph W Giuliani
Secretary of Commerce: Lloyd Bentsen
Secretary of Agriculture: James E Carter
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Morris K Udall
Secretary of Education: George Wallace
Ambassador to the United Nations: Patrick J Buchanan
Ambassador to the United Kingdom: R Sargent Shriver
National Security Adviser: Richard Perle

Over the first part of Jackson's first term, the economy steadily climbed, if ever  so slowly. In statewide races, when the special election came to replace Robert F Kennedy in the Senate, former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Jack Kemp was asked to run, however, he declined. He was thinking about running for Governor against John Lindsay in 1978. In that special election, the only prominent Democrat to step out was feminist Bella Abzug, who was unable to beat then-New York residence Robert P Anderson, who won the special election.

As the economy improved, so did approval ratings of the Democrats. In the 1978 mid-term elections, Democrats swung back with their own modest gains. In New York, former HUD Secretary Jack Kemp beat incumbent Governor John Lindsay. Kemp, already a high profile figure among Conservative Democrats, was seen as a rising star and a potential Presidential contender in the future. In California, Barry Goldwater Jr., with the endorsement of both his father, and former President Reagan, surprisingly, won election to the governorship as a Libertarian/Independent. He joined the ranks of Libertarian minded Independents elected to national or gubernatorial offices, including his father and Congressman Ron Paul of Texas. Because of Reagan's endorsement, some claimed the former President was deserting his party.

In Cambodia, the war was improving, if by a small rate. Caualties were down, and the ares that American troops had control over were cleared of enemy presence. Inside safer areas, American troops were given the responsibility of training refugees and rebels how to use weapons and command patrols on their own. This required Jackson to send over translaters, and to have Cambodian taught to troops on the ground.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Anybody care to comment on the recent election, or the Jackson Administration? (Please???)

[MorningInAmerica]

When will the Clintons be making their appearance? We're in the late 70s right now, right?

Or I guess I should ask, WILL the Clintons make an appearance?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Good so far, Cathcon. It's rare for a newbies to attempt a full TL so early

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Good so far, Cathcon. It's rare for a newbies to attempt a full TL so early

Well, I sort of had it in my head, but I decided to take a different course. The original list was:
Nixon/Ford 1961-1969
Jackson/R Kennedy 1968-1977
Kennedy/McGoven 1977 (RFK is assassinated)
McGovern/Shriver 1977-1981
Reagan/Dole 1981-1989
Dole/Kemp 1989-1993
Ted Kennedy/Clinton 1993-1997
Michael Reagan/Jack Kemp, John McCain 1997-2001
 After that, 9/11 kills the President, and I can't remember the rest. This wildly departs from the original, with Reagan remaining a Democrat.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

When will the Clintons be making their appearance? We're in the late 70s right now, right?

Or I guess I should ask, WILL the Clintons make an appearance?

I'm not sure yet.

By the way, welcome to the forum.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

An Update on the Libertarian Party

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After having taken 16% and 12 electoral votes in 1976, members of the Libertarian Party were hopeful for the years to come. Originally only taking small fractions of percentages in the 1972 election, they had jumped to a perty worthy of studying in the future. The Party's showings from 1976 had led many more Libertarian minded politicans to considering running for the nomination, including:

Former Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK)


Governor Barry Goldwater Jr. (L-CA)


Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)


And of course, the Libertarian Party's 1976 Vice-Presidential nominee
Congressman Ron Paul (I-TX)

[tmthforu94]

This is really good!

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The First Term of Henry M Jackson Part Two

As Jackson's term went on, the economy continued to improve and Jackson was said to be a do-nothing President because, as he said, "There's nothing for me to do!" However, the biggest event of his Presidency took place on January 28th, 1989, when National Security Adviser Richard Perle was taken hostage on a diplomatic mission to Israel by Palestinian terrorists working for the PLF, or the Palestinian Liberation Front. This was a major crisis, and the nation spent many days and nights watching the news for any sign of the hostage crisis. Jackson appointed Zbigniew Brzezinski Special Envoy to Palestine, however, while negotiations were attempted, the Jackson Administration worked to find an alternative plan. On March 3rd, 1979, in Operation DESERT'S END, Helicopters and American troops swarmed the abandoned building complex where Perle and the other hostages were located and secured them, making corpses of the twenty three different terrorists.

A rare photo of one of the hostage takers during the Palestine Hostage Crisis


The crisis was the greatest loss and gain of the Jackson Adminsitration. Political Anylast Pat Cadell, who worked for the Jackson Administration, said "1980 will be a shoo-in". However, in the months to follow, despite a good economy nad Jackson's entering into Palestine with a delaration of war from Congress, people began suffering fatigue from the Democrats and were ready to make a shift of power towards teh Republicans. They had had eleven years of them by the end of 1979 and were ready to put someone else in charge. In 1980, there were a number of candidates for the Republican nomination, including:

Texas Senator George Bush
Former California Governor Robert Finch
New York Senator Robert P Anderson
Illinois Congressman John B Anderson
Kansas Senator Robert Dole
Illinois Congressman Donald Rumsfeld
Oregon Senator Mark Hatfield

After a rough primary battle, Bush finally won the Republican nomination, and chose the runner-up, Finch for Vice-President, not only to unite the party, but to bite into the West, which had gone for the Democrats in the last three elections.

As for the Libertarians, Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona declined runnign for another time, saying "I don't want to be the Adlai Stevenson of this generation." This left an open field, which included  former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel. However, Mike Gravel was seen as an unsuccessful politician because he had lost re-election six years earlier. They ended up nominating the prominent Oregon Senator Mark Hatfield, despite the dis-satisfaction of several of the party's faithful. For Vice-President, California Governor Barry Goldwater was chosen. With Mark Hatfield officially changing his voter registration, the Senate at that point had two Independent/Libertarians, the other being Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. The Keynote address at the convention was given by Alaska State Senator Dick Randolph, who was a former Republican who won election to the State House in 1978. Other speakers were Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, and John Hospers.

Jackson was re-nominated without protest, and kept his Vice-President Robert F Kennedy, who at the time was more popular than he.

In the debates, Hatfield was allowed entry because of the Libertarian Party's performance four years earlier. Hatfield's support ranged from thirty to ten percent. IN the debates, all the candidates performed well, and there was no clear winner leading right up to election night.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The 1980 Presidential Election

Bush/Finch: 271 electoral votes; 41.2%
Jackson/Kennedy: 255 electoral votes; 40.9%
Hatfield/Goldwaer: 12 electoral votes; 16.9%

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Can someone please comment? Otherwise...

[tmthforu94]

I like it! I'm hoping for a Libertarian resurgence that leads to three major parties in America.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I like it! I'm hoping for a Libertarian resurgence that leads to three major parties in America.

Thanks! I'm not going to give out what happens next, but I'm glad someone commented. I was afraid I'd have to start posting really sarcastic stuff like "Echo..Echo..Echo", and then do some sort of weird Gollum impersonation (I had it all planned out in my head).

By the way, do you find Hatfield being the Libertarian nominee realistic? I didn't want to use up Paul, Goldwater, or Gravel too soon.

[tmthforu94]

I like it! I'm hoping for a Libertarian resurgence that leads to three major parties in America.

Thanks! I'm not going to give out what happens next, but I'm glad someone commented. I was afraid I'd have to start posting really sarcastic stuff like "Echo..Echo..Echo", and then do some sort of weird Gollum impersonation (I had it all planned out in my head).

By the way, do you find Hatfield being the Libertarian nominee realistic? I didn't want to use up Paul, Goldwater, or Gravel too soon.

You could have done a lot worse. I was honestly hoping for a Gravel Presidency, and hopefully that happens in the future.

I'd advice you to consider finding a deeper bench for the Libertarian party, especially if you want them to expand. I'd be willing to help you find some moderate's in that era.