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« on: October 07, 2010, 12:09:58 PM »

http://www.gallup.com/poll/143426/Gallup-Finds-Unemployment-September.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, increased to 10.1% in September -- up sharply from 9.3% in August and 8.9% in July. Much of this increase came during the second half of the month -- the unemployment rate was 9.4% in mid-September -- and therefore is unlikely to be picked up in the government's unemployment report on Friday.

Certain groups continue to fare worse than the national average. For example, 15.8% of Americans aged 18 to 29 and 13.9% of those with no college education were unemployed in September.

The increase in the unemployment rate component of Gallup's underemployment measure is partially offset by fewer part-time workers, 8.7%, now wanting full-time work, down from 9.3% in August and 9.5% at the end of July.


As a result, underemployment shows a more modest increase to 18.8% in September from 18.6% in August, though it is up from 18.4% in July. Underemployment peaked at 20.4% in April and has yet to fall below 18.3% this year.

Friday's Unemployment Rate Report Likely to Understate

The government's final unemployment report before the midterm elections is based on job market conditions around mid-September. Gallup's modeling of the unemployment rate is consistent with Tuesday's ADP report of a decline of 39,000 private-sector jobs, and indicates that the government's national unemployment rate in September will be in the 9.6% to 9.8% range. This is based on Gallup's mid-September measurements and the continuing decline Gallup is seeing in the U.S. workforce during 2010.

However, Gallup's monitoring of job market conditions suggests that there was a sharp increase in the unemployment rate during the last couple of weeks of September. It could be that the anticipated slowdown of the overall economy has potential employers even more cautious about hiring. Some of the increase could also be seasonal or temporary.

Further, Gallup's underemployment measure suggests that the percentage of workers employed part time but looking for full-time work is declining as the unemployment rate increases. To some degree, this may reflect a reduced company demand for new part-time employees. For example, employers may be converting some existing part-time workers to full time when they are needed as replacements, but may not in turn be hiring replacement part-time workers. Another explanation may relate to the shrinkage of the workforce, as some employees who have taken part-time work in hopes of getting full-time jobs get discouraged and drop out of the workforce completely -- going back to school to enhance their education, for example, instead of doing part-time work. It is even possible that some workers may find unemployment insurance a better alternative than part-time work with little prospect of going full time.

Regardless, the sharp increase in the unemployment rate during late September does not bode well for the economy during the fourth quarter, or for holiday sales. In this regard, it is essential that the Federal Reserve and other policymakers not be misled by Friday's jobs numbers. The jobs picture could be deteriorating more rapidly than the government's job release suggests.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 12:12:51 PM »

And people on this forum still think Obama is going to win re-election.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 12:50:23 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 01:00:17 PM »


It's not really all that funny.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2010, 01:18:45 PM »

Sometimes you have to laugh to avoid crying.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2010, 01:46:36 PM »

Didn't know opinion pollsters are now in charge of unemployment stats. They going to start measuring GDP next?
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2010, 01:54:46 PM »

...Gallup measures unemployment? WTF?
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2010, 02:06:46 PM »

Didn't know opinion pollsters are now in charge of unemployment stats. They going to start measuring GDP next?

Yeah, that's exacly what I thought. Pretty absurd.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2010, 03:00:35 PM »

Didn't know opinion pollsters are now in charge of unemployment stats. They going to start measuring GDP next?

Yeah, that's exacly what I thought. Pretty absurd.

Far better to have the government itself measure unemployment and to be the only source.

Seems a bit like the fox guarding the chicken coop.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2010, 05:22:07 PM »

Didn't know opinion pollsters are now in charge of unemployment stats. They going to start measuring GDP next?

Yeah, that's exacly what I thought. Pretty absurd.

the government itself does a phone survey of 5000 households in order to come up with the unemployment percentage number
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2010, 06:28:38 PM »

Didn't know opinion pollsters are now in charge of unemployment stats. They going to start measuring GDP next?

Yeah, that's exacly what I thought. Pretty absurd.

the government itself does a phone survey of 5000 households in order to come up with the unemployment percentage number

60,000 FYI.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2010, 06:31:20 PM »

And people on this forum still think Obama is going to win re-election.

Around this time in 2008, people thought Democrats would gain Senate and House seats this year Wink

Two years is a long time, and half the prospective Republicans are jokes anyway Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 06:48:35 PM »

Around this time in 2008, people thought Democrats would gain Senate and House seats this year Wink

Oh, those were the days.  Smiley

I'll join in and say I found it interesting that Gallup is now polling unemployment, too.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 07:12:52 PM »

Sometimes you have to laugh to avoid crying.

If you feel like crying - that is, if a poor economy effects you - you might consider voting in a way which would help your situation.  As for myself, happily it doesn't effect me at all.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2010, 09:33:16 PM »

And people on this forum still think Obama Reagan is going to win re-election.

Similar situation. I have a tough time seeing it worse in 2012 and Obama still beats Palin by a wide margin.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2010, 09:34:44 PM »

And people on this forum still think Obama Reagan is going to win re-election.

Similar situation. I have a tough time seeing it worse in 2012 and Obama still beats Palin by a wide margin.

Obama's black.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2010, 09:40:21 PM »

Well yeah but anyone who cared about that voted for McCain anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2010, 01:00:08 AM »

http://www.gallup.com/poll/143426/Gallup-Finds-Unemployment-September.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, increased to 10.1% in September -- up sharply from 9.3% in August and 8.9% in July. Much of this increase came during the second half of the month -- the unemployment rate was 9.4% in mid-September -- and therefore is unlikely to be picked up in the government's unemployment report on Friday.

Certain groups continue to fare worse than the national average. For example, 15.8% of Americans aged 18 to 29 and 13.9% of those with no college education were unemployed in September.

The increase in the unemployment rate component of Gallup's underemployment measure is partially offset by fewer part-time workers, 8.7%, now wanting full-time work, down from 9.3% in August and 9.5% at the end of July.


As a result, underemployment shows a more modest increase to 18.8% in September from 18.6% in August, though it is up from 18.4% in July. Underemployment peaked at 20.4% in April and has yet to fall below 18.3% this year.

Friday's Unemployment Rate Report Likely to Understate

The government's final unemployment report before the midterm elections is based on job market conditions around mid-September. Gallup's modeling of the unemployment rate is consistent with Tuesday's ADP report of a decline of 39,000 private-sector jobs, and indicates that the government's national unemployment rate in September will be in the 9.6% to 9.8% range. This is based on Gallup's mid-September measurements and the continuing decline Gallup is seeing in the U.S. workforce during 2010.

However, Gallup's monitoring of job market conditions suggests that there was a sharp increase in the unemployment rate during the last couple of weeks of September. It could be that the anticipated slowdown of the overall economy has potential employers even more cautious about hiring. Some of the increase could also be seasonal or temporary.

Further, Gallup's underemployment measure suggests that the percentage of workers employed part time but looking for full-time work is declining as the unemployment rate increases. To some degree, this may reflect a reduced company demand for new part-time employees. For example, employers may be converting some existing part-time workers to full time when they are needed as replacements, but may not in turn be hiring replacement part-time workers. Another explanation may relate to the shrinkage of the workforce, as some employees who have taken part-time work in hopes of getting full-time jobs get discouraged and drop out of the workforce completely -- going back to school to enhance their education, for example, instead of doing part-time work. It is even possible that some workers may find unemployment insurance a better alternative than part-time work with little prospect of going full time.

Regardless, the sharp increase in the unemployment rate during late September does not bode well for the economy during the fourth quarter, or for holiday sales. In this regard, it is essential that the Federal Reserve and other policymakers not be misled by Friday's jobs numbers. The jobs picture could be deteriorating more rapidly than the government's job release suggests.

I think a lot of people missed the bold part.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2010, 07:43:29 AM »

FWIW, the actual figures are steady at 9.6% unemployment, which is actually marginally better than predicted.
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