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« on: October 11, 2010, 09:46:01 PM »

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43415.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 09:52:46 PM »

Well this isn't going to look going to look good especially after his "vote for me because I don't wear heels" comment. While that was arguably a meaningless gaffe or joke, this is significantly more substantive.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 10:13:22 PM »

Somehow, that does not surprise me coming from him. The GOP really picked some choice candidates this year.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 10:17:24 PM »

Somehow, that does not surprise me coming from him. The GOP really picked some choice candidates this year.

Most of them don't have such massive closetfuls of skeletons.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 10:24:41 PM »

I saw this earlier. I imagine this could be a pretty big deal. We'll just have to wait and see.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 10:27:17 PM »

Excellent. This race will only need a few points to swing away from Buck.

I also saw a brief headline earlier today that Ron Johnson hired a pedophile or something.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 10:29:27 PM »

I also saw a brief headline earlier today that Ron Johnson hired a pedophile or something.

Which will only make a remote difference if Johnson knew so in advance. Otherwise, it's an accident.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 10:36:57 PM »

I also saw a brief headline earlier today that Ron Johnson hired a pedophile or something.

Don't get my hopes up. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 10:38:52 PM »

Its very damaging. Certainly he probably shouldn't have been talking with her about it over the phone anyway but instead in person. And secondly throwing the blame on her just because the evidence was lacking or whatnot seemed like poor judgement and he should have remained impartial.

The most important aspect would be the conformity of opinion among the all those involved that it shouldn't be prosecuted. Atleast then he can avoid the even more damaging allegation that he let a crook off the hook because of his personal bias. His demeanor and response are enough however to sink him depending on how his response to the allegation is received and whether he can refute any charges that he is against woman or whatnot.


This is a very orchestrated way to make the race about abortion without ending up like many candidates who resort to that out of desperation.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 10:46:35 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2010, 11:53:51 PM by N!K »

How Buck responds in the next twenty-four hours will make or break this race. If he wants to win, he better come up with a damn good explanation.

After reading more into it, I don't think it sinks him, but it does distract from the race for a while. I personally think that if handled right, it will blow over. But what do I know.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 11:27:09 PM »


This is a woman being raped man, this isn't a gaffe
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 11:28:15 PM »


The incident in question is obviously horrendous. But it's better that it came out now as opposed to later on so the voters can keep this in mind.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 11:46:37 PM »

     So people are just getting upset over him speaking brusquely to someone seeking to file charges? His words were poorly chosen, but his basic point that it was not a winnable case needed to be made.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2010, 01:05:38 AM »

The CO GOP never stops surprising me in a positive way (well, not positive for the woman of course) ... Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 01:10:46 AM »

Sounds like it might've been a bit of a no-win situation for Buck. If he had pressed charges he might be accused of railroading the guy now (without all the details of course, there could've been strong evidence, really can't tell from the article.)

Not saying that he handled it in a great manner with the way he spoke to the victim.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 03:21:17 AM »

I have a feeling this is a trumped-up hit job.  If this was a real sinker for the Buck Campaign, it would have come out months ago given that this was a very public case.

Also, when the DA of BOULDER COUNTY is agreeing with a Republican on a thorny issue, odds are that there's nothing here to go on.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2010, 04:32:19 AM »

I don't think this dog is going to hunt for the Dems.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2010, 06:21:22 AM »

They don't make October surprises the way they used to.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2010, 09:00:38 AM »

I knew Republicans should have nominated Norton.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2010, 10:03:26 AM »

so, Buck isn't even the one blamed for the rape, but was just the DA who refused to bring charges because the case was weak since the woman was drunk and invited the ex-boyfriend over?!

please!  this makes Buck look good, not bad.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2010, 10:37:06 AM »
« Edited: October 12, 2010, 10:39:11 AM by DrScholl »

It's the "buyer's remorse" comment that is that problem, for him to say that makes it look like he was blaming the woman and that was not right. It's one thing to believe he didn't have a case, it's another to pass judgment like that. He needed to choose his words better.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2010, 12:39:54 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2010, 12:41:57 PM by Vepres »

It's the "buyer's remorse" comment that is that problem, for him to say that makes it look like he was blaming the woman and that was not right. It's one thing to believe he didn't have a case, it's another to pass judgment like that. He needed to choose his words better.

It seems that she invited him into her apartment and never verbally protested his advances. Poor word choice, but he (Buck) was basically arguing that she could not win the case.

I should also note that this story isn't even on the Denver Post website.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2010, 12:46:55 PM »

If Bennet pushes this, and then it turns out to be a non-story, does that potentially backfire on him? I could see that happening, similar to Grayson's "submit to me" ad.
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2010, 12:51:00 PM »

It seems that she invited him into her apartment and never verbally protested his advances.

and, she was drunk and the man was her former lover.  Probably 95% of adults would agree with the DA's decision not press charges.  It would be a total waste of taxpayer money.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2010, 12:53:23 PM »

It seems that she invited him into her apartment and never verbally protested his advances.

and, she was drunk and the man was her former lover.  Probably 95% of adults would agree with the DA's decision not press charges.  It would be a total waste of taxpayer money.

Exactly, hence why I think this will backfire if Bennet tries to make an issue out of it. Besides, Buck is good at handling these things. The "I don't wear high heals" comment blew over, after all.
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