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« on: October 19, 2010, 02:40:34 pm »
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Yes, I know I'm working on Nixon 1960, now in the year 1990, but apparently that isn't enough for me, so I'll be starting this timeline soon. The original is in "Alternate History" on this forum.

This timeline is inspired mostly by "The Commonwealth that never was..." by Kalwejt, though I've changed several of the elements.
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America and Onward Part I
The Death of a Nation
In 1932, Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt was swept into office to replace Republican President Herbert Hoover. Over Roosevelt's three terms, he expanded government's role in the economy in the name of aiding Americans. However, despite his best efforts, the economy sunk further into the muck. Pearl Harbor and America's entry into World War II did nothing to help America's economy, with most of America's naval power ruined or in need of repair, the war was costly and Roosevelt was forced to take money from his precious social programs, which didn't put him in public favor. As resouce shortages started to appear because of so much many, food, and building material being used to fund the war, riots began breaking out in every major city. By 1943, the war was underfunded, and so was America. Becuase so many of America's allies had been attacked or were currently at war, America had nowhere to turn for funds to feed everyone. By 1944, the bloodiest of all the riots occured in Washington DC with cops and elected officials being pounded to death in the streets. President Roosevelt attempted to call in the national gurad, but they themselves were under-funded and the government couldn't afford to pay them, let alone supply them with weapons and uniforms. In the greatest day of terror the United States had ever seen, starving workers stormed the Whitehouse on February 29th, 1944, and inadverdantly or no, killed President Roosevelt. Vice-President Henry Wallace was lucky to escape with his life. With no head of government, out of repair infrastructure, and an under funded military, the federal government collapsed, and that was the end of America as we knew it.


One of the "endless" food lines in America's major cities, before the major riots occured
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For the total of nine or less people that have read this, do you have any:

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'Twould appear to be a slow day on the forum...
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America and Onward Part II
The Aftermath

After 1944, all chaos broke out. Riots and violence occured along state borders while state governments themselves tried to take control of as much as they could and consolidate power. In certain regions of the United States, leaders began to consolidate power. In the North-East, Joseph Patrick Kennedy, who had worked for the Roosevelt Administration, had become the de-facto leader. However, in a vicious dispute with Virginia and Maryland, two of his sons, Jospeh and John became victim to the riots and the fighting and were beaten to death by angry Southerners. Such was the practice of the day, with sons dying all across America because of disputes for food and land.

In 1947, as America fell deeper into the mire, Canada decided to expand, taking control of Maine and nearly invading Washington State as well. The same thing happened in New Mexico with Mexico. It appeared that America, which had led the world for much of the early twentieth century, up to the Stock Market Crash of 1929, would never be the same.

By 1950, state governments had combined to form their own independen states, while Canada and Mexico had both taken control of certain parts of the country. The map of what had been the United States of America was:



1)Green: The Pacific Progressive Coalition led by Earl Warren. Theh PPC was mainly a leftist/progressive state devoted to wealth redistribution and fairness.

2)Yellow: the Western Plain led by Robert Lafollete Jr.  The Western Plain was founded on the populist sympathies of the poor farmers in those areas. As the sparsely populated states began to united, son of the famous Progressive Robert Lafollette, Robert Lafollette Jr who was originally from Wisconsin, took power.

3)Gray: The Great Lakes Coalition led by Robert Taft Jr. One of the only regions still devoted to the ideas of captialism and the free market, the GLC was run by Robert Taft of Ohio who had previously been a United States Senator. Of course, the capitalism in the GLC was much more restrained and regulated.

4)Blue: New England led by Joseph Patrick Kennedy. Often sarcastically called "The People's State of New England", new England was much more corporatist than outsiders realized, and the government was mainly composed of "nationalised" corporations, at the head of which was Joseph Patrick Kennedy.

5)Red: Dixie led by Richard Russel. Mainly founded on the principles of White Supremacy, the Dixie was one of the worst off places because it failed to gain the subsidies it had gotten from the Federal Government in the days before 1944.

6)White: taken over by neighboring countries; New Mexico by Mexico and Maine by Canada

In 1951, when things had seemed to settle down, former Vice-President Henry Wallace emerged from hiding in New England. He had been hiding there since the collapse of the american government in 1944. New England Leader Joseph Patrick Kennedy had kept him safe.

In Europe, after prolonged occupation by Germany, the United Kingdom was finally liberated by rebel forces. In France, however, a different story emerged of a totalitarian regime ruled by leaders appointed by Germany. Russia, on the other hand, had consolidated power while Germany had concentrated on its Western front and had significant influence in Eastern Germany. It was rumored that the Soviet Union might send troops into the Nordic Peninsula.

Former Vice-President Henry Wallace, after a short period of re-emergence, began meetin with regional leaders Warren, Lafollette, Taft, and Kennedy about the re-unification of America. Wallace didn't dare approach Dixie after his first and only meeting with leader Richard Russell,who had thrownhim out after he suggested that Dixie give up its sovereignty.

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Awesome so far! Rarely does someone create such terrific timelines this early on.
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Awesome so far! Rarely does someone create such terrific timelines this early on.

Finally! Response!

Thanks, I just hope I haven't peaked...
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America and Onward Part III
America the Beautiful

Vice-President Henry Wallace, who since 1951, had become the head of the "Re-Unification Movement", had helped organize the 1951 American Re-Unification Convention, where delegates, chosen by local leaders from different parts of the Pacific Progressive Coalition, the Great Lakes Coalition, the Western Plain, and New England, went to vote at the ARC.

At the 1951 American Re-unification Convention

America, seven years ago, was torn assunder by greed, poverty, hate, and hunger. We stand here now, the result of seven years of work re-building our respected areas of the nation, to vote on whether America once again, will be made whole. We all know that our Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves if they could see us here today. All the work in the American Revolution, and all the work America under-took civilizing the continent from coast to coast, and all the work our people too repairing America after the dreaded Civil War, was destroyed on that deadly day in 1944. That is why I stand here today to petition all the delegates here to vote for the re-unification of America, this great country.
                               -Former Vice-President of the United States Henry Wallace
                                          August 16, 1951 Day 1 of the American Re-Unification Convention

This kicked off the debate, with more people speaking about vague platitudes of unity rather than specific policies which would ensure that 1944 never happened again. President of the Great Lakes Coalition Robert Taft was the leader that was most worried about what would happen after re-unification. He was the only leader at the convention openly opposed to Progressivism. However, he knew the importance of American Unity and decided that the convention should go forward.

The Final Ballot:
For Re-Unification: 396
For Continued Sovereignty: 4

America would be re-united.

The New Land



Blue: The Renewed States of America
Red: The Confederate States of America
Green: The Independent Hawaii
White: States/Territories taken over by neighboring countries; Alaska by Russia, New Mexico by Mexico, and Maine by Canada
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America and Onward Part IV
Nation Building

With the creation of a new nation, there woudl be a series of meeting between former regional leaders.

The Renewed States of America Constitutional Convention of 1952
February 15, 1954-March 29, 1954
A constitution, of course, would have to be made, as well as the assigning of voting districts and how elections woudl be held. Thd final provisions that were in the RSA Constitution included rights to propert, free speech, free press. However, there were also provisions hidden among all the legal garble that statesd obscure things about "Presidential Emergency Powers". With so much legal garble, regional leaders hired aides with reading and legal skills to read through sections of the continually revised constitution. However, even those aides didn't tell GLC Regional Leader Robert Taft about "Presidential Powers", "Emergency Authoritative Powers", or "Economic Crisis Action" provisions.
      In the constitution, it was decided that the President would be elected by a majority or plurality of the American people. people were already beginning to form parties and to think of former US Vice-President Henry Wallace as a possible candidate for President. The President would be voted on every five years and take office on January 1 of the year after the election. The first election would be held in 1955. The same went fot Congressmen and Regional Governors.
     At the convention, it was also agreed that they would have another meeting, as of then to be scheduled, where they would amend the constitution to rule on how to elect Congressmen.

The Renewed States of America Electoral Representation and Districting Convention of 1952
At that convention, held between June 5, 1952 and July 1, 1952, it was finally agreed upon that the states in participation of the Renewed States of America, would receive one representative for every 50,000 people in that state. There would be one House of Congress, called the House of the Elected, and it woudl be responsible for the passage or failure of laws that were proposed, either by the President or by a member of the HoE.

Finally, it was agreed by delegates in October, that they would hold a special election in 1953 to decided the President and the Congressmen. With this, though, would come a census in January of 1953, so that by the time the election would happen in October, they would know the assigned districts that Congressmen would be elected in.

Coming Up: The 1953 Special Election
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At least some of the states reuinited. Very good. Keep it coming.
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America and Onward Part V
The 1953 Special Election (Part 1)

Because of the political climate, there weren't very many political contenders. Earl Warren, Robert Lafollette Jr., and Joseph Kennedy all voiced strong support for former Vice-President Henry Wallace. However, there were other, smaller candidates, such as former General Douglas McCarthur, who had served in World War II and has been a national hero before America's collapse. McCarthur, since barely escaping the death trap called Europe in 1944, had lived gone into Canada until 1949, when he had moved into New York City which had been rebuilt to some extent, and since 1949, had been somewhat politically active and even had been a delegate to the American conventions hosted by Henry Wallace.

The former General Douglas McCarthur; Henry Wallace's only credible contender?

There were only a few other candidates who had the name recognition or willingness to run. Former Congressman Joseph McCarthy, who had been a Representative of Wisconsin in the Great Lakes House of Representatives between 1950 and 1952, and had become famous for his speeches decrying the re-unification of America because

It is obvious that all the leaders of the various regions of what used to be the United States have sworn themselves to an agenda of progressivism and socialism. Therefore, it is my opinion that this new nation, the Great Lakes Alliance, should no opt to join with them because they are motivated only by thoughts of control and power.

...considered running, however, he endorsed McArthur who was a war hero and much more respected. By June, he announced that instead of running for President, he would run for one of the Congressional seats that would be voted on in December. Old "Tail Gunner" was planning one getting back in the game.


The last candidate who received any sort of publicity was the Liberal Harold Statssen, who had been Governor of Minnesota until 1943. He had survived most of the depression and collapse and had been active in the re-unification.


Campaign funds came mostly from Hawaii, where several of the rich had been able to flee during the darkest days America had experienced; between 2936 and 1949. There were some rich who were pprogressive and ardent supporters of Henry Wallace, and some who were Conservative and supporters of General McCarthur and his efforts to drive out communism.

There was no Vice-Presidential system then, because a system of succession had been set up in the constitution saying that the Speaker of the House woudl be next in line in case of the death of the President.

Because of the lack of radio wires, telecommunication, and travel at those times, and because there was no formal polling company, many people had no idea how the election would turn out, or even of some of the main issues of the campaign. Much history was lost because of this, and not many scholars have formal records regarding polling or even the popular vote of that historic election.
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Does anybody care to comment? I know parts of this are unrealistic, but you don't need to keep me out in the dark with this.
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Note: the election map will appear at a later date because of the difficulty I found in manufacturing the map on code alone. I had to adjust electoral votes, colors, and percentages all using the map code, and the map i tried to work with map Colorado fall into the ocean for no reason.
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I like it so far, but is the President elected by plurality or a majority? You said he's elected by a plurality or a majority, but thats like saying you want chicken and steak when you can only have one.
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I like it so far, but is the President elected by plurality or a majority? You said he's elected by a plurality or a majority, but thats like saying you want chicken and steak when you can only have one.

It only depends on whether there are two or more candidates. It's just a matter of who has the most. In the case that one candidate wins 51% or more of the electoral votes, then he won the election because he won the majority. If there are multiple candidates, and someone rises above the rest to get 35% of the electoral vote, then he wins because he has the most. The winner is the one who ranks first in the electoral vote count, whether he has 50% or no.
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Note: I will be using a 2008 map for the election, only because of the color choices, and that map code has been giving me heck.
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Wallace Wins Election! Becomes First President of the Renewed States of America!


Former United States Vice-President Henry A Wallace (IA): 79 electoral votes

General Douglas MacArthur (NY): 35 electoral votes

Former Governor Harold Stassen (MN): 4 electoral votes

McCarthur was dismayed at his electoral landslide. However, his supporters, including the Congressional candidates Barry Goldwater and Joe McCarthy, believed that in the future, their movement could win, and they formed the American Patriot Party to channel this movement. Wallace's enthused supporters, on the other hands, created the Progressive Party, which would be the ideological opposite of the American Patriot Party.

On radio, on December fifth, after all the ballots were counted, and all the states were accounted for, former General McCarthur conceded the election to the President-elect Henry Wallace.

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Historically notable elections to the House of the Elected:

In Arizona, writer and part time businessman Barry Goldwater Jr. was elected to the HoE.

In Wisconsin, former Congressman of the GLC Joseph McCarthy won his election.

In Massachusetts, Robert Kennedy, son of Massachusetts Regional Governor Joseph Patrick Kennedy won a seat in the HoE.

Also in Massachusetts, Thomas P O'Neil was elected to Congress.

In California, James Roosevelt, who was hurt by his family name, won election narrowly in a three way race, to the HoE. He woudl use his seat there to try to cleanse his family name.

In Connecticut, former banker Prescott Bush won election to the HoE.

Historicaly Gubernatorial Elections were in:

California, where former PPC Presidentr Earl Warren became the first Governor of his state.

Massachusetts, where former New England leader Joseph Kennedy won his election.

Ohio, where Attorney Robert Taft Jr. was elected Governor of Ohio. His father had been the Regional Leader of the Great Lakes Coalition.

In New York, businessman Nelson Rockefeller was elected Governor. He had gone through depression in the forties because of the death of his family, including his brother Winthrop. However, by 1953 he was fully recovered.
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America and Onward Part VI
The First Term of President Henry Wallace


On January 1st, 1954, former United States Vice-President Henry Wallace became, according to the Constitution, the President of the Renewed States of America. Wallace had, like America in the past few years, a roller coaster of a ride. When the United States of America were in existence, he had been President Roosevelt's Agriculture Secretary and Vice-President. After America dissolved, he had gone into hiding in New England, protected by the "King" Joseph Patrick Kennedy. In 1950, Wallace began his political re-emergence, meetign with political leaders in different regions of the United States. By 1953, he had arranged the reforming of parts of the United States, had helped form the Constitution, and was a candidate for President.

Wallace's first few weeks in office were spent creating governmental ministries, such as the Ministry of Wealth Distribution, and the Ministry of Diplomacy. The only objection in the newly filled Congress was from Conservative members, who, upon taking office, became members of the American Patriot Party. At the time, there were only two parties in Congress, American Patriot, and Progressive.

By June of 1954, the Ministry Heads, also known as the President's cabinet had been selected. The cabinet was composed of political allies who had helped Wallace re-form America and had helped his rise to power.

The Wallace Administration
Minister of Wealth Distribution and Economic Planning: Joseph Patrick Kennedy
Minister of Diplomacy: Robert Lafollete Jr.
Minister of Warfare: Richard M Nixon
Minister of Justice: Earl Warren

Kennedy, Lafollete, and Warren were all new hands. However, Nixon was a virtual unknown at the time. He had been elected to Congress in the Pacific Progressive Coalition in 1950, and had been elected to the RS HoE in 1953. he had served in World War II and had been one of the "lucky ones" who was able to make it back to America before the entire war effort collapsed and funding stopped. Nixon had been an ally of Earl Warren and was a self described "Moderate Progressive".

Minister of Warfare Richard Nixon: Progressive Rising Star?

Wallace's first term was characterized by infrastructure projects that helped to creat jobs and to build the economy. The largest and most successful of his public works projects was the American Transportation Act of 1954 which rebuilt broken down roads, made new roads, and connected roads between the four major regions to promote commerce thorughout the country. He also tried to meet with the CSA Leader Strom Thurmond who succeeded Richard Russel in 1953, however, as before, negotiations with the CSA fell through because of Wallace's and Thurmond's ideological break down, and Wallace tried to attach strings to trade deals, such as desegregation and equality.

In his first term, Wallace would also take what American Patriots called, in the words of Congressman Barry Goldwater, "A turn too far to the left", when he announced The American Nation Corporation Creation Act of 1955, which created government run corporations that would produce basic goods and services.

We have seen what abuses of the free market have done. Do none of us remember the Great Depression? Throughout the 1920's, economic de-regulation led to the most disastrous time of that nation we loved. Now, the American Patriot Party announces that I'm too far to the Left?! They, my fellow Americans, are the ones too far to the Right, with their continued demands that wealthy business owners and fat-cat stock brokers control the economic fate of the nation.
                              -American President Henry Wallace; February 13, 1955

Examples of such corporations were The American Medical Corporation, responsible for hospitals, doctors, and the general health; The American Arms Manufaturing Coporation which was responsible for the production of weapons in times of conflict and war; and The American Machinery Manufaturing Corporoation which was one of the largest and most expansive companies, and which was responsible for the production of cars and other forms of machinery. All corporations were run by a man appointed by the President and approved by Congress.

Without the existence of many commercial corporations, several more rich people fled to Hawaii. However, this was not publicized and barely noticed by many except in higher income areas. The only actual businesses not run by the government were small and local businesses such as general stores and supply shops, which all ordered from either local farms, or from the larger American Corporations. This was a new country and a new economy.

Congressional Balance of Power, 1954-1955:
Progressives: 78; Leader; Robert Kennedy
American Patriots: 40 Leader; Joseph McCarthy
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American and Onward Part VII
The 1955 Presidential Election

Because of the success of Wallace's first term, which had only been two years, the Progressive Party was looking for him to run again, a calling he gladly accepted.

The American Patriot Party was in a less well off position. It had lost by a landslide in the previous and first election and didn't have the national organization that the Progressive Party had. Possible candidates, but no definite candidates, included:


former General and 1953 nominee Douglas MaCarthur


Wisconsin Congressman Joseph McCarthy


Arizona Congressman Barry Goldwater


Ohio Governor Robert Taft Jr.

However, Taft, McArthur, and Goldwater all declined running. This left McCarthy being the only contender for the nomination with national prominence. He gladly accepted the nomination at the 1955 American Patriot National Convention.

Former Minnesota Governor Harold Statssen announced that, instead of running for President, he would instead run for Congress from Minnesota. He was hoping to become relevant on the political scene by 1960, when he hoped it would be his year.

The last candidate to announce his entry was the "Centrist" candidate Prescott Bush who was a freshman Congressman from Connecticut. His reason for runnign was:

As this new nation progresses, we need a leader with an eye, not for partisanship, but for the American people. I have been an independent voice by entire tenure in Congress despite my registration in the Progressive Party. President Henry Wallace has given too much power to the Federal Government in running the economy, while Congressman McCarthy asks for just the opposite: a land ruled by only wealthy businessman and anarchy. I represent a middle road and I hope America will agree with me on election day.


Congressman Prescott Bush-A new leader of a new movement

With Bush's announcement, the Centrist Party formed, and three members of Congress, two of them Progressives (John Lindsay and Margaret Chase Smith) and one of them (Gerald R Ford) an American Patriot, joined the new party. along with Bush, this made the balance of power:

Progressives: 67
American Patriots: 39
Centrists: 4

Coming up: The results!
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President Henry Wallace Wins Re-election!


President Henry A Wallace (P-IA): 70 electoral votes
Congressman Joseph McCarthy (AP-WI): 42 electoral votes
Congressman Prescott Bush (C-CT): 6 electoral votes

Despite having won re-election, President Henry Wallace was furious. He was specifically furious with Kennedy.

Wallace: I thought I told you to close the bastard out of New England!
Kennedy: Hank! Connecticut was the bastard's home state!
Wallace: You think I'm talking about that pipsqueak Bush? What about McCarthy, huh? You knew he had support among Catholics, and you let him have ballot access in the East, the place that would, in you words, be "Solid Wallace Territory", Hah!
Kennedy: Now listen, Hank. We may be the party bosses, but this is a democracy. I tried to shut him out, but the local leaders were themselves afraid after they saw polling data that showed that there was an amount of support from McCarthy in that state. They were scared for their own political futures.
Wallace: Get out of my sight.

Despite their loss, the American Patriot Party was delighted. They had taken two new states, plus one of the states in which they were strongest had gained an electoral votes in the two years since the first election. At his Conceding speech, Congressman Joe McCarthy announced:

Yes, President Wallace won re-election. However, he lost ground this year. We have brough two new states under our wings and have gained more territory. Meanwhile in the East, the Centrist Party is beginning to work away at the Progressive Party. Old Henry Wallace just might have to get his act together in time for 1960, ot he may face some opposition!

The crowds of supporters, mostly rural Conservative farmers, and some former businessmen, cheered.

At Bush's home in Connecticut, he was there with his family, including his son George who was thinking about moving out West to Arizona or California and starting his own business there, the mood was joyful. They had beaten out the Liberal Lion Henry Wallace in two states that should have gone easily for him.

Tonight, America, you spoke! Even though we were third in both the electoral and popular vote, we have proven that there is a Center in America that does not want either the Anarchist excesses of the American Patriots, or the Authoritarian excesses of the Progressives; and in the future, we are there to show that if our voices will not be heard by either two parties, they will still be hears. We hope to make gains in the future, and I assure you, We Will!
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