The Borders Act

[7,052,770]

Here's an idea to help redistricting and the NY bottleneck.  It'll also fix the fact that AK and HI dont border anything.

The Borders Act.
Section 1.  The following sets of states shall be considered "bordering" for the purpose of redistricting:  New York and Michigan; New Jersey and Connecticut; Alaska and Washington; Hawaii and California; Michigan and Minnesota.

If anyone has suggestions on other sets, or would like to see states taken out, please suggest.  I really think this would help solve some redistricting problems.

[Bono]

That would give some states double representation. that's a no-no.

[7,052,770]

That would give some states double representation. that's a no-no.

how?  It just eases the redistricting process by "creating" borders between states.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

While it might help regularize the situation with Alaska and Hawaii,   I don't really see that it does anything to make redistricting easier.  If the Constitution hadn't already been amended, the CT-NJ link you propose would be helpful, but as things stand, I doubt the utility of this bill.

[King]

We should ask some UK voters to change their registration from New York/New England to some other part of the country. They are one of the main reasons for this population problem.

[PBrunsel]

Haven't you proposed an idea like this before Harry?

If it makes are redistricting easier than i'll approve it, but you will have to prove it will make redistricting easier.

[Peter]

I don't see how this would solve any problems within the redistricting process. We are already able to jump across one state when constructing the districts by the non-contiguity clause in the Districts Amendment. And as for Hawaii and Alaska, we have already been assuming that they are "naturally" placed with the Western states, so all that would do is fix a procedural flaw in the present system as opposed to making the process easier or fixing any substantive flaw.

New York to Michigan is the only two state jump in your list, so that would be gained, but I still don't see how it would fix the problems of redistricting. Really we either need to break PA and NY up - obviously impractical, or we need to move people out of these States, and I'm not in favour of forcing anybody to move States.

[7,052,770]

Hmmm, we could split PA into two states, and do the same with NY.  East/west on PA and NYC/upstate for NY, and have everyone register in one or the other.

[Peter]

Hmmm, we could split PA into two states, and do the same with NY.  East/west on PA and NYC/upstate for NY, and have everyone register in one or the other.

As I say, that is impractical because:
1. We would have to decide where the new borders would be.
2. Its a buggar for people already registered there to have work out which half they want.
3. What do we do with the people who inevitably don't bother to pick one half of the State to move into?

[7,052,770]

Hmmm, we could split PA into two states, and do the same with NY.  East/west on PA and NYC/upstate for NY, and have everyone register in one or the other.

As I say, that is impractical because:
1. We would have to decide where the new borders would be.
2. Its a buggar for people already registered there to have work out which half they want.
3. What do we do with the people who inevitably don't bother to pick one half of the State to move into?

1. Not a problem.
2. Whichever side they live on.
3. We could call one "Pennsylvania" and the other "Allegheny" or something.  So people would at first be all registered in PA, and if they wanted could switch to Allegheny.

[Defarge]

On behalf of my constituents in PA and NY, I strongly oppose any attempt to split the states in two, for the reasons Attorney General Peter Bell has specified.  Not only will it be rather unruly, it would also make the registration process more complicated for those in these states than for those living in other states.  It is unfair to force these measures upon registered voters simply because of their geographic location.

[7,052,770]

On behalf of my constituents in PA and NY, I strongly oppose any attempt to split the states in two, for the reasons Attorney General Peter Bell has specified.  Not only will it be rather unruly, it would also make the registration process more complicated for those in these states than for those living in other states.  It is unfair to force these measures upon registered voters simply because of their geographic location.

well something needs to be done to make redistricting not only easier but also giving more options, and these are the only two ways I can think of doing it:  "creating" borders or splitting states

[Bono]

On behalf of my constituents in PA and NY, I strongly oppose any attempt to split the states in two, for the reasons Attorney General Peter Bell has specified.  Not only will it be rather unruly, it would also make the registration process more complicated for those in these states than for those living in other states.  It is unfair to force these measures upon registered voters simply because of their geographic location.

Translation, something needs to be done to make gerrymandering more easy, since spliting republican voters isnt easy enough as it is now.

well something needs to be done to make redistricting not only easier but also giving more options, and these are the only two ways I can think of doing it:  "creating" borders or splitting states

[Siege40]

I agree with most everything, except New York and Michigan, given it makes about as much sense as an alcoholic mule. We need to find a way to encourage emmigration away from the populous states.

Siege

[Akno21]

I don't see the big problem.

Yes, 20% of the population is in NY/PA, but there are plans out there that make it work.