Obama/Biden vs Daniels/Cornyn

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

Out of curiosity:


Obama/Biden
Daniels/Cornyn


Unemployment remains high, though has dropped below 9% [hovering around/just above Texas' rate of about 8.5%]. Gas Prices are back down below $3 but still moderately high in the $2.50 range.

Discuss, maps would be nice too.

[Senator Libertas]

359-179

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

359-179

I could see this. Give Obama Oregon, Minnesota, and that one Maine District though.

[Dgov]

359-179

I could see this. Give Obama Oregon, Minnesota, and that one Maine District though.

Why do so many people think Michigan will flip before Minnesota?  Obama got only 54% in MN but got 57% in Michigan, which suggest that MN is set to become more competitive in the future.  From the 2008 totals, I'd say it flips before Wisconsin too.

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

359-179

I could see this. Give Obama Oregon, Minnesota, and that one Maine District though.

Why do so many people think Michigan will flip before Minnesota?  Obama got only 54% in MN but got 57% in Michigan, which suggest that MN is set to become more competitive in the future.  From the 2008 totals, I'd say it flips before Wisconsin too.

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I didn't even notice he colored in blue until you mentioned it.

My map:



Obama/Biden: 232
Daniels/Coryn: 306

I'ma give him Wisconsin too.

[Senator Libertas]

359-179

I could see this. Give Obama Oregon, Minnesota, and that one Maine District though.

Why do so many people think Michigan will flip before Minnesota?  Obama got only 54% in MN but got 57% in Michigan, which suggest that MN is set to become more competitive in the future.  From the 2008 totals, I'd say it flips before Wisconsin too.

I don't think that (I gave him both), but I do think Daniels would be a good candidate to win Michigan.

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

bbbump.

[A dog on every car, a car in every elevator]

VPs irrelevant.  Obama is beating all comers now with unemployment over 9.  Daniels seems to be on the strong end of GOP competitiveness- similar to Romney?- though his past role in Bush Administration could maybe hurt him in a general.  Regardless, with unemployment dropping down to mid 8s, Obama repeats 2008 map minus Indiana and maybe 1-2 other states.  But maybe just minus Indiana.

[ChairmanSanchez]

I would think Michigan would stay Red, but Wisconsin, could go Blue if Walker doesnt screw the Union debacle up.

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

I would think Michigan would stay Red, but Wisconsin, could go Blue if Walker doesnt screw the Union debacle up.

I still don't buy that the nonsense in Wisconsin will benefit Republicans one bit. Michigan would stay red regardless of who was the Republican candidate.

[NHI]

[ChairmanSanchez]

I would think Michigan would stay Red, but Wisconsin, could go Blue if Walker doesnt screw the Union debacle up.

I still don't buy that the nonsense in Wisconsin will benefit Republicans one bit. Michigan would stay red regardless of who was the Republican candidate.

I agree Michigan will stay Red, Wisconsin is leaning Red. Is Virginia likely to flip again?

[A dog on every car, a car in every elevator]

Unemployment at 8.5, down about 2 points from peak.  Obama approval probably about 50, pretty tough to beat. Daniels campaigns on deeper spending cuts e.g. Medicare.  What's the argument why anything besides Indiana flips?

[MilesC56]

I would consider this a more favorable map for Daniels, but Obama still wins. Cornyn would be a drag on the GOP ticket and he'd turn off independents, IMO.

285D-253R

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

I would think Michigan would stay Red, but Wisconsin, could go Blue if Walker doesnt screw the Union debacle up.

I still don't buy that the nonsense in Wisconsin will benefit Republicans one bit. Michigan would stay red regardless of who was the Republican candidate.

I agree Michigan will stay Red, Wisconsin is leaning Red. Is Virginia likely to flip again?

Maybe, Virginia swayed pretty hard towards Obama though. He just needs to solidify his base in NoVA and the suburbs of Richmond and he'll be fine.

[krazen1211]

I still don't buy that the nonsense in Wisconsin will benefit Republicans one bit. Michigan would stay red regardless of who was the Republican candidate.

I doubt that nonsense seriously matters in the long run. Either Walker is able to generate jobs and economic activity in the private sector or he can't. If he does, the unions will still hate his guts, but majority of the people in this country don't benefit from public sector unions.

[ChairmanSanchez]

I would consider this a more favorable map for Daniels, but Obama still wins. Cornyn would be a drag on the GOP ticket and he'd turn off independents, IMO.

285D-253R

Texas is a blue state, so I wouldnt pick a Veep from there. Chris Christie, Allen West, Marco Rubio, Bob McDonald, maybe even ken Kucinelli are the types I would look for.

[Senator Ben]

[MilesC56]

I would consider this a more favorable map for Daniels, but Obama still wins. Cornyn would be a drag on the GOP ticket and he'd turn off independents, IMO.

285D-253R

Texas is a blue state, so I wouldnt pick a Veep from there. Chris Christie, Allen West, Marco Rubio, Bob McDonald, maybe even ken Kucinelli are the types I would look for.

Allen West. lol

That would be a disaster.

[Yelnoc]

I wasn't sure whether to flip Colorado or Nevada but since Daniels seems to have youth apeal and Colorado doesn't seem to like incumbents I went for the Rocky Mountain state.  The weak VP pick limits Daniels pick-ups.  This scenario assumes slow economic growth and maybe a foreign policy blunder or two.

[ChairmanSanchez]

Allen West isnt the best choice, at least this time around....