Erie County/Goldhaber Research Associates: Paladino (R) leads by 19

[Tender Branson]

BUFFALO, NY (WKBW) - A new poll conducted by Goldhaber Research Associates, LLC shows Republican Carl Paladino to have a large lead over Democrat Andrew Cuomo among likely voters in Erie County.

The research poll shows likely voters in Erie County favor Carl Paladino over Andrew Cuomo, 48-29 percent. Republican voters in Erie County favor Paladino over Cuomo 73-7 percent, while Independents support Paladino 57-15 percent. Cuomo leads Paladino among Democrat voters 48-30 percent.

The research poll questioned 476 likely voters in Erie County between October 19 and 23, with a margin of error of +/- 4.5 percent.

http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/New-Poll-Shows-Paladino-with-Large-Lead-in-Erie-County-105685463.html

[Tender Branson]

WTF is this ?

[Verily]

Not a huge shock. Paladino is very popular in Buffalo for whatever reason. (It is his home town, and that Matters, with a uppercase letter, in Upstate.) A little weird that he does so well among Democrats, though.

He could still lose in a landslide while winning Erie County. NYC, NYC suburbs, and the Hudson Valley will be strongly for Cuomo, but the pop/soda boundary (which runs through Rochester) will mark a strong transition to strength for Paladino.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

WTF is this ?

It's just Erie County, not NY in general.

[Verily]

For hometown Mattering in Upstate, see the 2002 gubernatorial election. Golisano wins 14% of the vote statewide while winning Monroe County.

Also, Erie County is a lot more Democratic at the federal level than the state level in general.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

Paladino is going to run very strongly in western New York and terribly everywhere else, basically. His running mate is from western New York too.

[State Comptroller Atkins]

Ok.

[SvenssonRS]

What the flying f**ksicles?

[oakvale]

I love how the news story says "Democrat Party".

[crypto-fascist superhero]

What the flying f**ksicles?

Only in Erie Country, in western New York.

[cinyc]

I love how the news story says "Democrat Party".

Where? 

It says "Democrat voters", which is a way of referring to Democrats.  A Democrat is a Democrat, not a Democratic.

[Joe Republic]

I love how the news story says "Democrat Party".

Where? 

It says "Democrat voters", which is a way of referring to Democrats.  A Democrat is a Democrat, not a Democratic.

No, "Democrat voters" is not a (correct) way of referring to Democrats.  "Democrat" is a noun; "Democratic" is an adjective.  "Voter" is also a noun, and therefore putting two otherwise unrelated nouns together like that is incorrect.

[Invisible Obama]

This isn't surprising at all, he ran up crazy high numbers in the county in the  primary, so he's got some appeal in that area.

[cinyc]

I love how the news story says "Democrat Party".

Where?  

It says "Democrat voters", which is a way of referring to Democrats.  A Democrat is a Democrat, not a Democratic.

No, "Democrat voters" is not a (correct) way of referring to Democrats.  "Democrat" is a noun; "Democratic" is an adjective.  "Voter" is also a noun, and therefore putting two otherwise unrelated nouns together like that is incorrect.

The phrase "Democrat voters" has been used by the AP, Reuters and USA Today, among others.  It is perfectly proper to do so.   Unlike the party, individual voters are never referred to as "Democratics".

[Joe Republic]

The phrase "Democrat voters" has been used by the AP, Reuters and USA Today, among others.

That's the first time media outlets have consistently made the same mistakes, right?

It is perfectly proper to do so.

No, no it isn't.  Also, you'll note that Democrats themselves never do it.  Why do you think that is?

Unlike the party, individual voters are never referred to as "Democratics".

Wow, did you ever study English?  An individual voter is a noun, and therefore is a Democrat.  Again, "Democratic" is an adjective.

[crypto-fascist superhero]

You vote Democrat.  You don't vote Democratic.  You are therefore a Democrat voter.

[Joe Republic]

You vote Democrat.  You don't vote Democratic.  You are therefore a Democrat voter.

You honestly can't see how that is plainly incorrect?

(I often wonder how many people who use this phrase incorrectly are deliberately trolling, or have simply been misled by those who are.)

[JohnnyLongtorso]

You vote Democrat.  You don't vote Democratic.  You are therefore a Democrat voter.

You honestly can't see how that is plainly incorrect?

(I often wonder how many people who use this phrase incorrectly are deliberately trolling, or have simply been misled by those who are.)

I'm pretty sure you've had this exact same argument with Carl before. It's obvious that the people who do it only do it because it pisses Democrats off.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

While Erie County voted for Mondale, it did also vote for Pataki all 3 times. Anyways, Paladino can have fun winning his own county while he loses badly statewide.

[Joe Republic]

I'm pretty sure you've had this exact same argument with Carl before. It's obvious that the people who do it only do it because it pisses Democrats off.

Absolutely, which I find slightly ironic since I'm not a Democrat. 

But yes, it's inherently a form of real-life trolling.

[Lunar]

You vote Democrat.  You don't vote Democratic.  You are therefore a Democrat voter.

You honestly can't see how that is plainly incorrect?

I dunno...what if you were describing the person being voted for rather than the voter.

Like, "that Republican supports Democrats, he's a Democrat supporter" doesn't sound as trollish as most cases

[Lunar]

of course, when I read the OP, it's pretty clear they aren't talking about "voters of any party who vote for Democrats," proving my post above wrong

The research poll shows likely voters in Erie County favor Carl Paladino over Andrew Cuomo, 48-29 percent. Republican voters in Erie County favor Paladino over Cuomo 73-7 percent, while Independents support Paladino 57-15 percent. Cuomo leads Paladino among Democrat voters 48-30 percent.

[cinyc]

You vote Democrat.  You don't vote Democratic.  You are therefore a Democrat voter.

You honestly can't see how that is plainly incorrect?

(I often wonder how many people who use this phrase incorrectly are deliberately trolling, or have simply been misled by those who are.)

I'm pretty sure you've had this exact same argument with Carl before. It's obvious that the people who do it only do it because it pisses Democrats off.

The "people who did it" here was a Buffalo TV station website.  It's not uncommon to see newspapers or news websites use Democrat as an adjective, particularly when referring to voters, not the Democratic Party itself.  This is especially true in headlines, or in other cases where space is at a premium.

Democrats have no inherent right to tell the rest of us what words we can use.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

You vote Democrat.  You don't vote Democratic.  You are therefore a Democrat voter.

You honestly can't see how that is plainly incorrect?

(I often wonder how many people who use this phrase incorrectly are deliberately trolling, or have simply been misled by those who are.)

I'm pretty sure you've had this exact same argument with Carl before. It's obvious that the people who do it only do it because it pisses Democrats off.

The "people who did it" here was a Buffalo's TV station website.  It's not uncommon to see newspapers or news websites use Democrat as an adjective, particularly when referring to voters, not the Democratic Party itself.  This is especially true in headlines, or in other cases where space is at a premium.

Democrats have no inherent right to tell the rest of us what words we can use.

Fine, you people who vote Republic are welcome to use whichever words you want.

[Invisible Obama]

The "people who did it" here was a Buffalo's TV station website.  It's not uncommon to see newspapers or news websites use Democrat as an adjective, particularly when referring to voters, not the Democratic Party itself.  This is especially true in headlines, or in other cases where space is at a premium.

Democrats have no inherent right to tell the rest of us what words we can use.

It's so hilarious that grammar is a political issue with some. Everything is not a huge political drama. You can use whatever you want, but that doesn't make it grammatically correct.