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Question: Who would have had the Best shot at beating Bush.
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John Kerry
 
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John Edwards
 
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Howard Dean
 
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Wesley Clark
 
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Hillary Clinton
 
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Dick Gephart
 
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Al Sharpton
 
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Bill Richardson
 
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« on: November 13, 2004, 10:01:15 PM »

I voted For Clark, I think he could have done it.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2004, 10:04:29 PM »

I voted For Clark, I think he could have done it.

Clark, Richardson, Clinton, Edwards if he had more experience.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2004, 10:34:02 PM »

Clearly Lieberman was the best shot. But the party disowned him.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2004, 10:38:12 PM »

*Sigh*.  If I were a Democrat, I would be profoundly depressed about now.

There's gotta be some governor out there that no one's heard of, who's been, like, balancing the budget for 12 years, and has a beauty-queen wife of 20 years who directs four charities, and he goes to church every Sunday, and looks like Cary Grant, and saved the lives of 200 soldiers in Gulf War I, and discovered a new medicine to cure AIDS...

May we'll find him by 2007.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2004, 10:54:11 PM »


You have to admit, he'd be the most entertaining President... well, since Clinton, anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2004, 10:55:22 PM »

He'd get less black votes than John Kerry
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2004, 11:01:19 PM »
« Edited: November 14, 2004, 12:06:38 AM by Beef »

He'd get less black votes than John Kerry

Hey, BILL O'REILLY endorsed him, ok?  And if there's one person who is respected and trusted by the black community, it is Bill O'Reilly.  He has his finger firmly on the pulse of urban culture.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2004, 12:07:05 AM »

Richardson.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2004, 12:44:37 AM »

Why isn't Liberman on the list?
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2004, 03:48:49 AM »

Edwards, with Clark as his running mate.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2004, 04:01:24 AM »

Clearly Lieberman was the best shot. But the party disowned him.

I like Lieberman but his campaign was a poor one, he defined himself and his positions in opposition to his Party, rather than using kind of languae the grassroots would have been receptive to, added to this he was very dull.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2004, 04:03:12 AM »

Clearly Lieberman was the best shot. But the party disowned him.

Last I noticed, he's still a Democrat, so disowned is a bit strong of a word. He was our VP nominee in 2000, in case you've forgotten...
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2004, 05:56:51 PM »

Lieberman, but he wasn't on the list.

I'd actually go with Gephardt. He had the right views on economy and the necessary experience. Sure, he was dull, but the country wanted a strong and safe leader, not a charismatic beauty queen like Edwards.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2004, 06:04:03 PM »

Lieberman, but he wasn't on the list.

I'd actually go with Gephardt. He had the right views on economy and the necessary experience. Sure, he was dull, but the country wanted a strong and safe leader, not a charismatic beauty queen like Edwards.

That line about Edwards being a charismatic beauty queen is f**king hilarious!! And very true.

I agree with you about Lieberman by the way.  I think he stood the best chance of beating Bush because he could have gotten a lot of moderate votes that went to the president.

He would have had trouble holding his base.  The Democratic Party's base is so far out in left field (literally) that it's very difficult for them to hold things together and win an election.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2004, 06:22:49 PM »

Lieberman followed by Gephardt.  J. Danforth Edwards was possibly the worst choice for the Dem VP slot in the last 20 years.  Only Ferarro and Eagleton sink to his level.

For Eagleton, I refer to the political effect; shock treatment shouldn't be an issue.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2004, 07:03:31 PM »

I think that both, Lieberman and Clark would have had a better chance to defeat Bush. Those were my two candidates since the beginning of the primaries.

I think Clark would have had the best chance, because unfortunately, as it has been said here, Lieberman would have had problems holding the democratic base.

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2004, 09:13:02 AM »

Clearly Lieberman was the best shot. But the party disowned him.

I was wondering why he wasn't on the list.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2004, 10:58:08 AM »

Gephardt.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2004, 11:42:29 AM »
« Edited: November 15, 2004, 11:44:16 AM by J. J. »

I'm non-partisan when it comes to idiots.  :-) 

There are two factors in choosing a VP nominee.  1.  Can the guy/gal run the government if the worse case happened.  2.  Does nominating the guy/gal give bring any EV with it.

Arguably, Quayle, in 1988, did some of number two; he attracted votes in the mid-west, helping in OH, IL, and KY.  It didn't in 1992.

Cheney, on the other hand, is outsanding for one.  Perhaps he is the most qualified VP since G. H. W. Bush, in terms of running the government.  In terms of two, he brings nothing to the table.

Lieberman, as a former CN AG and a Senator, was good with one; he boosted the ticket in FL in terms of two.

Edwards did very little as either an administrator or a legislator and added nothing to the ticket in terms of EV totals. 

Some number one good choices were:

D:  Johnson, Humpfrey, Muskie, Bentson, Gore, Lieberman.
R:   Lodge, Bush, Kemp, Cheney.

Some good number two choices were:

D:  Johnson, Humphrey, Mondale, Gore, Lieberman
R:  Agnew, Quayle (88), Bush.
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