CA: 2010 Initiative General Election Result (Prop 19)

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New Election: 2010 California Initiative General Election Results
    
    

[Nhoj]

So the Marijuana producing counties actually voted against? Why does that not surprise me.

[Linus Van Pelt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fcBEGjK3cM

[bayguy]

Anyone have a list of the most pro prop 19 cities?

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Anyone have a list of the most pro prop 19 cities?

The SOS will put some PDFs up later this year.

[Associate Justice PiT]

So the Marijuana producing counties actually voted against? Why does that not surprise me.

     Yeah, they didn't want the competition. Disgusting, but what can you do?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Too bad that Prop. 19 failed, but on the bright side, it did do better than a $160 million campaign defending a Republican office in a Republican wave year.

[Хahar 🤔]

Strange map. San Luis Obispo is not the sort of county that would be expected to vote for this when Santa Clara and Los Angeles didn't. Interesting that Yolo (UC Davis) voted against. Mono is also strange, although it's more Democratic than many of the surrounding counties. IIRC, Mono is very male (although that might have been Inyo).

[King]

My parents and grandparents aside, I can't wait until old people are dead.

[Sbane]

Strange map. San Luis Obispo is not the sort of county that would be expected to vote for this when Santa Clara and Los Angeles didn't. Interesting that Yolo (UC Davis) voted against. Mono is also strange, although it's more Democratic than many of the surrounding counties. IIRC, Mono is very male (although that might have been Inyo).

Mono voted for it, as well as Alpine. Nothing weird there. I was surprised by Yolo as well, but don't forget it's got some Sacramento suburbia in addition to Davis. And although West Sacramento votes reliably Democrat, it wouldn't surprise me if they handily voted against Prop 19.

The proposition seemed to do bad in places with lots of moderates, as far as I could tell. That to me would explain Santa Clara and Contra Costa. Maybe more Asians voting in Santa Clara could be another reason. Los Angeles was liberal West LA versus the rest of the county, which is basically moderate. San Diego was a bit of a surprise to me, though I should have expected it.

San Luis Obispo makes sense to me. It has those sorts of areas which are both favorable to Republicans and Marijuana legalization. Not too many places like that in California, but most of them are by the coast in Southern California. Helps explain SD as well, and I can't wait to see how it did in Rohrbacher's district.

Edit: I don't know how much of an effect it really had on the final numbers, but it seems like anywhere where Marijuana is almost de facto legal/ medical Marijuana is not under attack, Prop 19 seemed to do bad. It did horribly bad as compared to prop 215 in the bay area, northern coast, Sacramento. On the other in places where there have been crackdowns on dispensaries, such as San Diego......

[phk]

Strange map. San Luis Obispo is not the sort of county that would be expected to vote for this when Santa Clara and Los Angeles didn't. Interesting that Yolo (UC Davis) voted against. Mono is also strange, although it's more Democratic than many of the surrounding counties. IIRC, Mono is very male (although that might have been Inyo).

Mono voted for it, as well as Alpine. Nothing weird there. I was surprised by Yolo as well, but don't forget it's got some Sacramento suburbia in addition to Davis. And although West Sacramento votes reliably Democrat, it wouldn't surprise me if they handily voted against Prop 19.

The proposition seemed to do bad in places with lots of moderates, as far as I could tell. That to me would explain Santa Clara and Contra Costa. Maybe more Asians voting in Santa Clara could be another reason. Los Angeles was liberal West LA versus the rest of the county, which is basically moderate. San Diego was a bit of a surprise to me, though I should have expected it.

San Luis Obispo makes sense to me. It has those sorts of areas which are both favorable to Republicans and Marijuana legalization. Not too many places like that in California, but most of them are by the coast in Southern California. Helps explain SD as well, and I can't wait to see how it did in Rohrbacher's district.

Edit: I don't know how much of an effect it really had on the final numbers, but it seems like anywhere where Marijuana is almost de facto legal/ medical Marijuana is not under attack, Prop 19 seemed to do bad. It did horribly bad as compared to prop 215 in the bay area, northern coast, Sacramento. On the other in places where there have been crackdowns on dispensaries, such as San Diego......

According to exit polling males aged 18-29 were the strongest supporters.

In terms of race, Asians were the most against, Whites in the middle and Blacks/Hispanics the least against.

In terms of the university factor. Cal Poly SLO is a mostly an engineering and business school, which means its more male oriented than what universities in general are (UC Davis especially). Also its less Asian than UC Davis. So that explains why it would be favorable to the GOP and marijuana legalization.

For San Diego. In terms of individual neighborhoods I could see it passing where the age-sex cohort of males 18-29 are 15%+ and Asians are minimal. Maybe Pacific Beach or Hillcrest. Likely flop in La Jolla or Kearney Mesa. All these areas are Democratic anyway. In terms of other cities in San Diego County that would be friendly to voting Yes would be Oceanside and National City. Likely a flop otherwise (Escondido, Carlsbad, San Marcos, Santee, Vista, Poway). Chula Vista could be a draw.  

[minionofmidas]

Strange map. San Luis Obispo is not the sort of county that would be expected to vote for this when Santa Clara and Los Angeles didn't. Interesting that Yolo (UC Davis) voted against. Mono is also strange, although it's more Democratic than many of the surrounding counties. IIRC, Mono is very male (although that might have been Inyo).

SLO and Yolo and Napa are the only weird-looking results on there, though.

[Sbane]

Strange map. San Luis Obispo is not the sort of county that would be expected to vote for this when Santa Clara and Los Angeles didn't. Interesting that Yolo (UC Davis) voted against. Mono is also strange, although it's more Democratic than many of the surrounding counties. IIRC, Mono is very male (although that might have been Inyo).

Mono voted for it, as well as Alpine. Nothing weird there. I was surprised by Yolo as well, but don't forget it's got some Sacramento suburbia in addition to Davis. And although West Sacramento votes reliably Democrat, it wouldn't surprise me if they handily voted against Prop 19.

The proposition seemed to do bad in places with lots of moderates, as far as I could tell. That to me would explain Santa Clara and Contra Costa. Maybe more Asians voting in Santa Clara could be another reason. Los Angeles was liberal West LA versus the rest of the county, which is basically moderate. San Diego was a bit of a surprise to me, though I should have expected it.

San Luis Obispo makes sense to me. It has those sorts of areas which are both favorable to Republicans and Marijuana legalization. Not too many places like that in California, but most of them are by the coast in Southern California. Helps explain SD as well, and I can't wait to see how it did in Rohrbacher's district.

Edit: I don't know how much of an effect it really had on the final numbers, but it seems like anywhere where Marijuana is almost de facto legal/ medical Marijuana is not under attack, Prop 19 seemed to do bad. It did horribly bad as compared to prop 215 in the bay area, northern coast, Sacramento. On the other in places where there have been crackdowns on dispensaries, such as San Diego......

According to exit polling males aged 18-29 were the strongest supporters.

In terms of race, Asians were the most against, Whites in the middle and Blacks/Hispanics the least against.

In terms of the university factor. Cal Poly SLO is a mostly an engineering and business school, which means its more male oriented than what universities in general are (UC Davis especially). Also its less Asian than UC Davis. So that explains why it would be favorable to the GOP and marijuana legalization.

For San Diego. In terms of individual neighborhoods I could see it passing where the age-sex cohort of males 18-29 are 15%+ and Asians are minimal. Maybe Pacific Beach or Hillcrest. Likely flop in La Jolla or Kearney Mesa. All these areas are Democratic anyway. In terms of other cities in San Diego County that would be friendly to voting Yes would be Oceanside and National City. Likely a flop otherwise (Escondido, Carlsbad, San Marcos, Santee, Vista, Poway). Chula Vista could be a draw. 

I don't think SLO is Republican and pro Marijuana because of the Cal Poly vote. Rather it's got some beach cities that are socially liberal (and they tend to be even more so for Marijuana related issues) but fiscally moderate to conservative. It's also got some inland cities that are pretty Republican, but won't vote against legalization in as high numbers as a ban for gay marriage. I also doubt Cal Poly was more pro legalization than most other colleges in California, including heavily Asian colleges like UC Irvine. Unfortunately the OC register is not publishing precinct maps of Prop 19, so I can't know for sure how it did there.

[Badger]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

[Sbane]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Hispanic county. Mostly farmland in the desert. There will be plenty of similar results in small Hispanic central valley towns, but not at the county level.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Latino county. Mostly farmland in the desert.

     However, exit polls suggest that there was no gap between whites, blacks, & hispanics on Proposition 19. Of course, they might be dead wrong.

[Sbane]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Latino county. Mostly farmland in the desert.

     However, exit polls suggest that there was no gap between whites, blacks, & hispanics on Proposition 19. Of course, they might be dead wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if Blacks and Whites were slightly more in favor and Latinos slightly more against. But it is true that there wasn't too much of a difference due to race. More ideological and age differences. Another way to explain Imperial county is to note that it probably has few liberals but many moderates and conservatives who voted for Brown.

[Badger]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Latino county. Mostly farmland in the desert.

     However, exit polls suggest that there was no gap between whites, blacks, & hispanics on Proposition 19. Of course, they might be dead wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if Blacks and Whites were slightly more in favor and Latinos slightly more against. But it is true that there wasn't too much of a difference due to race. More ideological and age differences. Another way to explain Imperial county is to note that it probably has few liberals but many moderates and conservatives who voted for Brown.

And Boxer too, apparantly, but I get the idea. The CA hispanic equivilent of Reagan Democrats?

[Sbane]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Latino county. Mostly farmland in the desert.

     However, exit polls suggest that there was no gap between whites, blacks, & hispanics on Proposition 19. Of course, they might be dead wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if Blacks and Whites were slightly more in favor and Latinos slightly more against. But it is true that there wasn't too much of a difference due to race. More ideological and age differences. Another way to explain Imperial county is to note that it probably has few liberals but many moderates and conservatives who voted for Brown.

And Boxer too, apparantly, but I get the idea. The CA hispanic equivilent of Reagan Democrats?

Not a bad way to describe them I suppose. Bush only lost this county by 6 points in 2004 while losing the state by 10 points.

[Хahar 🤔]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Latino county. Mostly farmland in the desert.

     However, exit polls suggest that there was no gap between whites, blacks, & hispanics on Proposition 19. Of course, they might be dead wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if Blacks and Whites were slightly more in favor and Latinos slightly more against. But it is true that there wasn't too much of a difference due to race. More ideological and age differences. Another way to explain Imperial county is to note that it probably has few liberals but many moderates and conservatives who voted for Brown.

And Boxer too, apparantly, but I get the idea. The CA hispanic equivilent of Reagan Democrats?

No, not really. It's just a Hispanic-majority county. It's the only one in the state where most voters are Hispanic, I think. The results make sense when considering that.

[Sbane]

Can anyone explain Imperial County results please? It went huge for Brown and Boxer but gave the highest percentage in the state for NO. It may be the only county in the state where a majority of Brown voters opposed Prop. 19. What gives?

Very Latino county. Mostly farmland in the desert.

     However, exit polls suggest that there was no gap between whites, blacks, & hispanics on Proposition 19. Of course, they might be dead wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if Blacks and Whites were slightly more in favor and Latinos slightly more against. But it is true that there wasn't too much of a difference due to race. More ideological and age differences. Another way to explain Imperial county is to note that it probably has few liberals but many moderates and conservatives who voted for Brown.

And Boxer too, apparantly, but I get the idea. The CA hispanic equivilent of Reagan Democrats?

No, not really. It's just a Hispanic-majority county. It's the only one in the state where most voters are Hispanic, I think. The results make sense when considering that.

Well, the Republicans do think they can convince Hispanics who live in these sorts of places to vote for them. Almost did in 2004. But then they go and pass SB 1070. Doesn't make any sense.

[Ebowed]

Imperial County also hates gay marriage more than pretty much any other county in the state as well, despite their partisan presidential preference.

[Verily]

You have to remember that Hispanics are no more monolithic in their ideological preferences than whites. Rural Hispanics in a place like Imperial County are very different in their political views from urban Hispanics in San Jose or Los Angeles. Thus, for example, Imperial County being strongly in favor of Prop 8 while the Mission District of San Francisco was very strongly in opposition. (I imagine there would be a similar difference on Prop 19, but precinct results are not yet available for it.)

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Mono County - 13% lead in favor of prop 19, 2% lead to Whitman, 7% lead to Fiorina

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Yay, our residents can keep selling for more!!!!!  

(and yes, I know it's not legal here either.  It's much easier to hide pot farms in forests of Evergreen trees)