Republicans fortunate in having Democratic Governors in CA and IL

[CARLHAYDEN]

The Republicans really got lucky in losing the Governors races in California and Illinois.

The budget problems in those states are extreme.

Republicans will be continuing the contrast the California and Texas approaches, and add the contrast between Illinois and New Jerseyto the mix.




fixed typo in title -- Joe

[Landslide Lyndon]

The Republicans really got lucky in losing the Governors races in California and Illinois.

The budget problems in those states are extreme.

Republicans will be continuing the contrast the California and Texas approaches, and add the contrast between Illinois and New Jerseyto the mix.

New Jersey has a Republican governor.

[Bacon King]

And with the economy so bad, I'm sure the Republicans were really fortunate to lose in 2008...

[CARLHAYDEN]

The Republicans really got lucky in losing the Governors races in California and Illinois.

The budget problems in those states are extreme.

Republicans will be continuing the contrast the California and Texas approaches, and add the contrast between Illinois and New Jerseyto the mix.

New Jersey has a Republican governor.

Exactly my point.

Christie is attempting to hold down taxes and spending, while Quinn, ROFLMAO.

[CARLHAYDEN]

And with the economy so bad, I'm sure the Republicans were really fortunate to lose in 2008...

Considering that McCain was the nominee and supporting TARP and higher taxes, yes they were fortunate.

[Hash]

A Thai political party holds the governorships of CA and IL??

[Landslide Lyndon]

A Thai political party holds the governorships of CA and IL??

That's what happens when all those dirty immigrants come to the US of A illegally and commit voter fraud.

[DrScholl]

Yes, very fortunate that they wouldn't have to put on the tiresome guise of being fiscally conservative when they really aren't.

[SvenssonRS]

A Thai political party holds the governorships of CA and IL??

Stuff the semantics.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The economy will likely rebound by 2014, and Brown and Quinn could benefit from that.

[Associate Justice PiT]

The economy will likely rebound by 2014, and Brown and Quinn could benefit from that.

     Unless California's economy turns into Zimbabwe's economy between now & then, Brown will easily win re-election.

[Lief 🗽]

Can we please stop with this "parties should always try to lose so they can win the next election" nonsense?

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Can we please stop with this "parties should always try to lose so they can win the next election" nonsense?

But it worked well for the Federalists in 1800 and the Whigs in 1852.

[Nichlemn]

The economy will likely rebound by 2014, and Brown and Quinn could benefit from that.

     Unless California's economy turns into Zimbabwe's economy between now & then, Brown will easily win re-election.

Assuming he wants to - he'll be 76 and have served for a total of three terms. Speaking of retreads, I wonder if Kitzhaber and especially Branstad will be unusually inclined to retire in 2014, though each is a relatively youthful 63.

[Associate Justice PiT]

The economy will likely rebound by 2014, and Brown and Quinn could benefit from that.

     Unless California's economy turns into Zimbabwe's economy between now & then, Brown will easily win re-election.

Assuming he wants to - he'll be 76 and have served for a total of three terms. Speaking of retreads, I wonder if Kitzhaber and especially Branstad will be unusually inclined to retire in 2014, though each is a relatively youthful 63.

     True, he might decline to run for re-election. If he does run, though, I have no doubt that he will be re-elected, & re-elected easily.

[Beet]

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

CARL better not move to California, since I'm sure the suede denim secret police would grab him as soon as he entered.

[Eraserhead]

Yes, losing elections and not being able to enact your policies is always the way to go! I can't wait to run for office one day just so I can lose.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Yes, losing elections and not being able to enact your policies is always the way to go! I can't wait to run for office one day just so I can lose.

Besides what does Brown have to fear? His suede denim secret police will deal with any problems.

[Kevin]

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

I don't think that will be the case in Cali since the unions basically own Jerry Brown. Therefore I would have to say that California will eventually default and Brown will ether be defeated in 2014, primaried, or forced to retire due to unpopularity.

I also can't see things be much different in Illinois ether, although I think NY will be different because Cuomo made it a center stone of his campaign to tackle the deficit and spending.

[Verily]

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

Fortunately, California solved half of its problems this year with the referendum allowing budgets to pass with a simple majority. Now all they need to do is ditch Prop 13 and California might actually be on its way to financial stability.

[cannonia]

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

Fortunately, California solved half of its problems this year with the referendum allowing budgets to pass with a simple majority. Now all they need to do is ditch Prop 13 and California might actually be on its way to financial stability.

Yep... TAX TAX TAX!!!!

[Antonio the Sixth]

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

Fortunately, California solved half of its problems this year with the referendum allowing budgets to pass with a simple majority. Now all they need to do is ditch Prop 13 and California might actually be on its way to financial stability.

Yep... TAX TAX TAX!!!!

This exactly.

[DrScholl]

I don't think governing like a Republican is the way for any of these Governor's to go, in California, a Republican Governor made most of the mess here. Republican ideas create more debt. Prop. 13 is one of the reasons we have revenue problems. Repealing it for commercial property would do wonders for the budget. There's no reason commercial property should be held to the same tax standards on residential.

[Capitan Zapp Brannigan]

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

Fortunately, California solved half of its problems this year with the referendum allowing budgets to pass with a simple majority. Now all they need to do is ditch Prop 13 and California might actually be on its way to financial stability.

Yep... TAX TAX TAX!!!!

Agreed. New taxes would go a long way to solving the deficit problem they have.