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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2010, 02:50:35 PM »

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2010, 03:26:44 PM »

Beet, why don't you become a Republican?
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2010, 03:43:44 PM »

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

I certainly hope these governor's have it in them - If they don't it wont matter who gets elected next time because things will be so far gone.. Maybe they can take on the government interests where a Republican couldn't. I see it as possible for Cuomo to take this direction, but Brown?
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2010, 04:07:01 PM »

Beet, why don't you become a Republican?

Because the Republican party nationally is crazy? Even if they weren't I'd still disagree with them on social issues and some economic issues.

Anyway, I fail to see how balanced budgets is a Republican idea.
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2010, 04:48:10 PM »

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

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Anyways, shorter advice for Jerry Brown. Govern like Jerry Brown. Obviously we're in an "era of limits".
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2010, 12:35:48 AM »

These men must govern very conservatively if they are to succeed. Jerry Brown no longer has the option of his predecessors in taking local funds to help make up for statewide shortfalls, or enacting fees on less than a two-thirds majority and pretending they are not taxes. He should be looking at Chris Christie in New Jersey as a model.

Jerry, don't be afraid to take on your own party. If you are, the glow of victory won't last long and a decent political legacy will end in shame. If you aren't, you cap a legendary political career by saving the state.

Pat Quinn and Andrew Cuomo should do similarly. Govern 'like Republicans'. Cuomo should take a page from David Paterson's playbook, not Eliot Spitzer's.

Fortunately, California solved half of its problems this year with the referendum allowing budgets to pass with a simple majority. Now all they need to do is ditch Prop 13 and California might actually be on its way to financial stability.

Yep... TAX TAX TAX!!!!

Why should those who have bought their houses a long time ago pay less property taxes than their neighbors? Please answer this basic question of fairness.

Prop 13 is a subsidy for the old and it screws over children from the moment they enter school to when they leave college and try to start a family/buy a house. No wonder people are leaving California. But oh no wait, it's all the fault of those libruls in Sacramento!!!!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2010, 12:46:28 AM »

I don't think governing like a Republican is the way for any of these Governor's to go, in California, a Republican Governor made most of the mess here. Republican ideas create more debt. Prop. 13 is one of the reasons we have revenue problems. Repealing it for commercial property would do wonders for the budget. There's no reason commercial property should be held to the same tax standards on residential.

This is a good compromise. I would hope Californians would at least approve of this (and it seems like any new taxes will be passed at the ballot box, even though voters hate deciding on policy at the ballot box).

I would go further and give homeowners a choice. Either pay the property taxes on current valuations or when you sell your house, you pay a percentage of the difference between what you sold your house for, and the valuation rate you were paying property taxes on. This way those who want to keep their house for generations, or retirees, aren't impacted.
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