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tpfkaw
wormyguy
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« on: November 06, 2010, 10:16:57 PM »

Did your mother ever tell you that if another child is teasing you, you should just ignore them?  The same holds true for international relations.  The Iranian government just wants attention, and we're giving it to them in spades.
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 09:04:34 AM »

Iran wouldn't destroy Israel if it had the chance with no threat of retribution.  It wouldn't destroy the United States either.  The Iranian government is concerned with one thing, and one thing only - staying in power.  Obviously they would have a very low chance of staying in power if they involved themselves in a nuclear war, but even beyond that Israel and the US are foils for the Iranian government at which they direct the people's anger.  Instead of the people being angry at their tyrannical government, which would threaten the regime's power, their anger is redirected at Israel and the US, keeping the regime in power.  If Israel and/or the US went away, the Iranian government would lose power.  The Iranian government has no interest and no intentions of "destroying" either Israel or the US, and if there is a war I will say that it has a 100% chance of being started by Israel or the US.
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 09:48:47 AM »

Iran wouldn't destroy Israel if it had the chance with no threat of retribution.  It wouldn't destroy the United States either.  The Iranian government is concerned with one thing, and one thing only - staying in power.  Obviously they would have a very low chance of staying in power if they involved themselves in a nuclear war, but even beyond that Israel and the US are foils for the Iranian government at which they direct the people's anger.  Instead of the people being angry at their tyrannical government, which would threaten the regime's power, their anger is redirected at Israel and the US, keeping the regime in power.  If Israel and/or the US went away, the Iranian government would lose power.  The Iranian government has no interest and no intentions of "destroying" either Israel or the US, and if there is a war I will say that it has a 100% chance of being started by Israel or the US.

During the period where Iraq really heated up, from 2005-2008, the insurgency began to be trained to make and to use roadside bombs. Someone was training them, and it was traced back to Iran. From what I read, what Iran did (training and suppling the indurgency) counts as technically an act of war. That means that if we were to attack Iran right now, it would have already been justified.

They also fund/support known terrorist organizations.

The US shot down an Iranian passenger jet full of innocent people, so I suppose everything they've done since then has already been justified too.  It may also be beneficial to ask yourselves why, exactly, all those "known terrorist organizations" popped up.  Was it for no reason at all?
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 08:14:00 PM »

Actually, Hamas was initially created and funded by the Israeli government, because they thought a rival group to the PLO would cause the Palestinians to fight amongst each other (which was actually correct, as we've seen).  But that's neither here nor there.

My question is, did those nefarious Muhammadeans suddenly decide in the mid-20th century, for no reason at all, that they really hated Jews and Americans?
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