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Hans-im-Glück
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2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 07, 2010, 03:30:59 pm »
2011 will be a more intresting year than 2010. We will see 6 elections for State Parlaments.
Here are the Dates (and the current Government)
20 March 2011 Saxony-Anhalt (CDU/
SPD
)
27 March 2011 Baden-Württemberg (CDU/
FDP
)
27 March 2011 Rhineland-Palatine (
SPD
)
22 May 2011 Bremen (
SPD
/
Greens
)
18 September 2011 Berlin (
SPD
/
Left
)
Autumn 2011 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (
SPD
/CDU)
For the CDU is the result in Baden-Württemberg very important. If they lose this conservative State, then it could be a very bad year for them. Maybe we see in the election in Berlin the first time the Greens as the strongest party and a Mayor from them.
It is possible that it gives more elections. NRW haven't a stable government and in the States with a CDU - Green coalition (Hamburg and Saarland) I haven't a good feeling.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 22, 2010, 12:40:31 pm »
A new poll for Baden-Württemberg
Allensbach 19.11.10 (Result 2006)
CDU 38,0 % (44.2 %)
SPD 22,0 % (25,2 %)
Greens 26,0 % (11,7 %)
FDP 5,0 % (10,7 %)
LEFT 5,0 % (,1 %)
Others 4,0 % (5,2 %)
This would be a disaster for the CDU/FDP government.
A new poll for Germany:
Emnid 21.11.10
CDU/CSU 32%
SPD 26%
Greens 20%
FDP 6%
LEFT 10%
Others 6%
No big changes to the last polls. The Greens are still in a all time high.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 22, 2010, 02:04:36 pm »
I so wish Canadians could be as intelligent as Germans. Sigh.
lol at the FDP at 5% in Baden-Württemberg. Isn't that one of their strongest states?
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 22, 2010, 03:42:45 pm »
Quote from: Hashemite on November 22, 2010, 02:04:36 pm
I so wish Canadians could be as intelligent as Germans. Sigh.
lol at the FDP at 5% in Baden-Württemberg. Isn't that one of their strongest states?
I don't know the Germans are more intelligent as the Canadians
You are right that Baden-Württemberg is one of the strongest states of the FDP. In the early years of this state they had a FDP-Prime-Minister.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 22, 2010, 05:48:45 pm »
Quote from: Hashemite on November 22, 2010, 02:04:36 pm
I so wish Canadians could be as intelligent as Germans. Sigh.
lol at the FDP at 5% in Baden-Württemberg. Isn't that one of their strongest states?
You think this shows German intelligence? lol
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 22, 2010, 05:54:50 pm »
Ugh. Good thing I'm not in Germany.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 22, 2010, 06:16:29 pm »
Quote from: David F. Nolan on November 22, 2010, 05:54:50 pm
Ugh. Good thing I'm not in Germany.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 26, 2010, 07:58:33 am »
New BW poll by Forschungsgruppe Wahlen/ZDF:
39% (-5) CDU
26% (+14) Greens
19% (-6) SPD
5% (-6) FDP
4% (+1) Left
7% (+2) Others
Majority for Greens-SPD.
It seems that the Greens have already peaked and the CDU is gaining ground too.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 26, 2010, 08:14:48 am »
More or less static compared to the Allensbach one. What are you comparing it to?
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 26, 2010, 10:18:07 am »
Quote from: Socialist Scumbag on November 26, 2010, 08:14:48 am
More or less static compared to the Allensbach one. What are you comparing it to?
There were some polls in Sept./Oct. that had the CDU at 30-35% and the Greens at 25-30% or more.
http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/baden-wuerttemberg.htm
The sentiment about S21 also seems to have shifted: There are now as many supporters as there are opponents.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 26, 2010, 11:56:39 am »
Let's hope CDU-FDP get screwed... Any chance of this leading to anticipated elections ?
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 27, 2010, 08:06:38 am »
A new poll for Berlin
Forsa 27.11.2010 (Result of 2005)
CDU 18 % (21,3%)
SPD 26 % (30,8%)
GREENS 28 % (13,1%)
FDP 3 % (7,6%)
LEFT 16 % (13,4%)
Others 9 % (13,7%)
No big difference with last weeks. The left win a little bit.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 28, 2010, 06:38:43 am »
Breaking: Apparently Black-Green in Hamburg is over. Not really clear what ended it, exactly - of course it had been in permacrisis for the past half a year or so, but I fail to see even a reference to any kind of straw to break the camel's back. Anyways, new elections early next year likely.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Reply #13 on:
November 28, 2010, 09:21:02 am »
Most recent Hamburg poll from November 12:
SPD 40%
CDU 35%
Greens 12%
The Left 6%
FDP 4%
Most likely outcome at this point: SPD/Green coalition headed by former labour minister Olaf Scholz (SPD).
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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November 28, 2010, 08:33:28 pm »
How pleasant it is to see the Greens doing so well
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Reply #15 on:
November 30, 2010, 09:05:37 am »
Quote from: RG Hans-im-Glück on November 07, 2010, 03:30:59 pm
2011 will be a more intresting year than 2010. We will see 6 elections for State Parlaments.
Here are the Dates (and the current Government)
20 March 2011 Saxony-Anhalt (CDU/
SPD
)
27 March 2011 Baden-Württemberg (CDU/
FDP
)
27 March 2011 Rhineland-Palatine (
SPD
)
22 May 2011 Bremen (
SPD
/
Greens
)
18 September 2011 Berlin (
SPD
/
Left
)
Autumn 2011 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (
SPD
/CDU)
Hamburg early election is most likely gonna happen on February 20, therefore it will be the first election next year. Mecklenburg probably votes on September 4, that's not set yet either.
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Tender Branson
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 02:04:51 am »
What about Schleswig-Holstein ?
Will they vote in 2011 or 2012 now after the court ruling ?
(At least Germany provides an interesting election year 2011, there are almost no good elections anywhere elese in the world next year, maybe Italy ...)
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 04:12:38 am »
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 01, 2010, 02:04:51 am
What about Schleswig-Holstein ?
Will they vote in 2011 or 2012 now after the court ruling ?
(At least Germany provides an interesting election year 2011, there are almost no good elections anywhere elese in the world next year, maybe Italy ...)
September 2012 at the latest.
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First post-coalition breakup poll for Hamburg (FGW):
SPD 41%
CDU 22%
Greens 21%
Left 7%
FDP 4%
Others 5%
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Hashemite
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 08:41:49 am »
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 01, 2010, 02:04:51 am
(At least Germany provides an interesting election year 2011, there are almost no good elections anywhere elese in the world next year, maybe Italy ...)
Uh; Spain (regionals), Finland, Turkey, Thailand, Ireland, Wales/Scotland/NI, Argentina, Peru, Denmark, Estonia, Nicaragua don't count?
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Reply #19 on:
December 01, 2010, 08:52:13 am »
Spain (regionals), Finland, Thailand, Argentina, Estonia, Nicaragua certainly don't count.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 09:41:20 am »
Russia too.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Quote from: fierce bad gobsh!te on December 01, 2010, 08:52:13 am
Spain (regionals), Finland, Thailand, Argentina, Estonia, Nicaragua certainly don't count.
Glad that you didn't include Denmark on that list
It will probably be one of the most exciting parliamentary elections in many years.
That said, I am looking forward to the BW election as a test of the Green Party's actual strength.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 10:03:11 am »
For me Spain regionals count, A LOT. people think PSOE will be f**** but I think we will give people a huge surprise. with that corruption thing in the PP, if the economy gets better, the centre of the campaign could be corruption
and with that, we could win madrid (not win, but elect a president with IU) and keep asturias (certainly if former VP alvarez casco runs with PP), castilla la mancha (cospedal is a bitch) and baleares (jaume matas, former president of the islands with PP, is the most corrupt politician in the world). So, the most important region in play is MADRID. we won't win valencia and murcia because their people is too conservative... but in valencia, the president is a corrupt, and in murcia 2/3 of mayors are from PP, and half of them are proven corrupts.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 11:10:19 am »
Quote from: Gov. Tim James on December 01, 2010, 08:41:49 am
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 01, 2010, 02:04:51 am
(At least Germany provides an interesting election year 2011, there are almost no good elections anywhere elese in the world next year, maybe Italy ...)
Uh; Spain (regionals), Finland, Turkey, Thailand, Ireland, Wales/Scotland/NI, Argentina, Peru, Denmark, Estonia, Nicaragua don't count?
You also forgot that there is about a 98% chance that Canada will have a federal election in 2011 - which promises to be very interesting (there will definitely be provincial elections in Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland too but i don't expect that to be riveting to non-natives)
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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December 01, 2010, 11:58:03 am »
Quote from: Old Europe on December 01, 2010, 04:12:38 am
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 01, 2010, 02:04:51 am
What about Schleswig-Holstein ?
Will they vote in 2011 or 2012 now after the court ruling ?
(At least Germany provides an interesting election year 2011, there are almost no good elections anywhere elese in the world next year, maybe Italy ...)
September 2012 at the latest.
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First post-coalition breakup poll for Hamburg (FGW):
SPD 41%
CDU 22%
Greens 21%
Left 7%
FDP 4%
Others 5%
Non-depressing election alert?
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