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« Reply #300 on: March 20, 2011, 12:09:14 PM »

Is it possible to have a red-red-green coalition where the leader of the SPD becomes premier even though the Left party has slightly more seats because the Green party wants an SPD premier and the SPD and Greens together have more votes and seats than the Left party does?
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« Reply #301 on: March 20, 2011, 12:10:12 PM »

Is it possible to have a red-red-green coalition where the leader of the SPD becomes premier even though the Left party has slightly more seats because the Green party wants an SPD premier and the SPD and Greens together have more votes and seats than the Left party does?

Theoretically, but I have trouble imagining it.
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« Reply #302 on: March 20, 2011, 12:11:27 PM »

Is it possible to have a red-red-green coalition where the leader of the SPD becomes premier even though the Left party has slightly more seats because the Green party wants an SPD premier and the SPD and Greens together have more votes and seats than the Left party does?

No, reading the news reports it is almost clear that CDU-SPD will continue ...

The CDU and SPD front runners don't have a problem with each other.
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« Reply #303 on: March 20, 2011, 12:12:00 PM »

Is it possible to have a red-red-green coalition where the leader of the SPD becomes premier even though the Left party has slightly more seats because the Green party wants an SPD premier and the SPD and Greens together have more votes and seats than the Left party does?

Theoretically, but I have trouble imagining it.

Didn't happen in Thuringia.
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« Reply #304 on: March 20, 2011, 12:14:05 PM »

The CDU and SPD front runners don't have a problem with each other.

Well considering that the CDU in Sachsen-Anhalt is basically a Social Democrat party....not surprising.
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« Reply #305 on: March 20, 2011, 12:15:07 PM »

ARD projection

CDU 33.1%
Left 23.4%
SPD 21.3%
Greens 6.9%
NPD 4.6%
FDP 3.7%
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« Reply #306 on: March 20, 2011, 12:15:23 PM »

I thought the Greens could have done slightly better, more like 8% or so.

But I guess the 3% from 2006 was the weakest result for any Green state party, right ?

So, the doubling is OK ...
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« Reply #307 on: March 20, 2011, 12:16:01 PM »

Is it possible to have a red-red-green coalition where the leader of the SPD becomes premier even though the Left party has slightly more seats because the Green party wants an SPD premier and the SPD and Greens together have more votes and seats than the Left party does?

Presumably, The Left would be very volitile in such a coalition.
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« Reply #308 on: March 20, 2011, 12:16:24 PM »

I thought the Greens could have done slightly better, more like 8% or so.

But I guess the 3% from 2006 was the weakest result for any Green state party, right ?

So, the doubling is OK ...

It wouldn't have surprised me to see the Greens at 8%, actually. The anti-atomic idiots, I'm sure, were quite strongly motivated to vote.
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« Reply #309 on: March 20, 2011, 12:16:38 PM »

Too bad, a "broad left" (SPD-Linke-Greens) coalition would have been great.
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« Reply #310 on: March 20, 2011, 12:32:15 PM »

No surprise. A boring result in a boring State.

btw, the result for the Greens is very good. It is the best ever in Saxony-Anhalt. We will see the NPD come over the 5%. Normally the numbers of the Nazi will be better in the evening.

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« Reply #311 on: March 20, 2011, 12:34:13 PM »

We will see the NPD come over the 5%. Normally the numbers of the Nazi will be better in the evening.

Hope you're wrong.
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« Reply #312 on: March 20, 2011, 12:43:20 PM »

It seems like in all the eastern states - the presence of such a large Left Party only means CDU/SPD or SPD/CDU grand coalitions in power in perpetuity!!
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« Reply #313 on: March 20, 2011, 12:47:28 PM »

We will see the NPD come over the 5%. Normally the numbers of the Nazi will be better in the evening.

Hope you're wrong.
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« Reply #314 on: March 20, 2011, 12:52:43 PM »

It seems like in all the eastern states - the presence of such a large Left Party only means CDU/SPD or SPD/CDU grand coalitions in power in perpetuity!!

Only in states where the SPD are losers... so Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt, and Thuringia.
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« Reply #315 on: March 20, 2011, 01:07:23 PM »

NPD up to 4.7 according to ZDF.
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« Reply #316 on: March 20, 2011, 01:30:30 PM »

ARD 19:19

CDU  33.1
LEFT  23.6
SPD  21.5
GREEN  6.4
FDP  3.8
NPD  4.8
Others  6.8
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« Reply #317 on: March 20, 2011, 01:37:25 PM »

ARD 19:33

CDU  32.9
LEFT  23.7
SPD  21.5
GREEN  6.8
FDP  3.9
NPD  4.7
Others  6.5
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« Reply #318 on: March 20, 2011, 01:39:18 PM »

ZDF 19:32

CDU  32.6
LEFT  23.7
SPD  21.5
GREEN  6.7
FDP  3.8
NPD  4.8
FREE VOTERS  3.1
Others  3.8
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« Reply #319 on: March 20, 2011, 01:41:19 PM »

We must wait for the final result to know the NPD is over 5%.
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« Reply #320 on: March 20, 2011, 01:43:20 PM »

We must wait for the final result to know the NPD is over 5%.

ARD apparently had them at 4.8 and has come down to 4.7 again. I think it's unlikely that the NPD reaches the 5% point anymore.
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« Reply #321 on: March 20, 2011, 01:45:38 PM »

We must wait for the final result to know the NPD is over 5%.

ARD apparently had them at 4.8 and has come down to 4.7 again. I think it's unlikely that the NPD reaches the 5% point anymore.

That's Saxony-Anhalt. There is all possible.
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« Reply #322 on: March 20, 2011, 01:47:59 PM »

At this stage, are the networks just adjusting their exit poll numbers or are they getting real results from across the state and adjusting the projections accordingly?
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« Reply #323 on: March 20, 2011, 01:48:18 PM »

We must wait for the final result to know the NPD is over 5%.

ARD apparently had them at 4.8 and has come down to 4.7 again. I think it's unlikely that the NPD reaches the 5% point anymore.

That's Saxony-Anhalt. There is all possible.

True.

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« Reply #324 on: March 20, 2011, 01:49:03 PM »

At this stage, are the networks just adjusting their exit poll numbers or are they getting real results from across the state and adjusting the projections accordingly?

The latter.
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