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Topic: 2011 State Elections in Germany (Read 72695 times)
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Reply #1300 on:
September 21, 2011, 01:39:53 pm »
Quote from: Lewis Honeyboy Trondheim on September 21, 2011, 01:38:26 pm
Anyways, postal precincts in a lot of Berlin don't make much sense, so I'll not continue that project.
Should I post the figures for Mitte (where they do, broadly speaking)?
All figures of interest should be posted.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 21, 2011, 01:46:23 pm »
Sheesh, can't seem to get my odt file to open on this computer... damn compatibility issues.
Tell you what, I'll send you an email. It has the lists of which precincts make up the postal precinct and even short descriptions of where they are.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Reply #1302 on:
September 21, 2011, 11:24:12 pm »
What's the place in the East where the CDU did so well?
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 21, 2011, 11:52:14 pm »
Quote from: Χahar on September 21, 2011, 11:24:12 pm
What's the place in the East where the CDU did so well?
That's Mahlsdorf, middle class suburbia.
In fact it's "Germany's largest contiguous area of single-family-houses and two-family-houses", as Wikipedia tells us.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 22, 2011, 07:13:37 am »
A few new polls today:
Nordrhein-Westfalen (YouGov)
33% SPD
33% CDU
17% Greens
6% FDP
5% Left
6% Others
Majority for SPD-Greens.
Rheinland-Pfalz (Infratest dimap)
39% SPD
34% CDU
16% Greens
3% Pirates
3% Left
2% FDP
3% Others
Majority for SPD-Greens.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 23, 2011, 02:35:12 am »
Hard to imagine that the Greens in Rhineland-Palatinate are stronger now than at the election two weeks after Fukushima.
Especially since they lost 4-8 points in the national polls from their all-time-high in March/April.
I see them at 13-14 in both states.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 23, 2011, 03:41:18 am »
New FGW poll:
34% (nc) CDU/CSU
30% (+7) SPD
18% (+7) Greens
6% (-6) Left
4% (+2) Pirate Party
4% (-11) FDP
4% (+1) Others
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 24, 2011, 04:44:54 am »
Mitte
1A 100-3 Friedrich-Wilhelm-Stadt, Nordbahnhof
WBR 4491 WBT 2900 64.6 gültig 2875 SPD 793 27.6 CDU 595 20.7 Grüne 662 23.0 Linke 311 10.8 Piraten 258 9.0 NPD 28 1.0 FDP 116 4.0
1B 104, 120, 124, 128-31 Gesundbrunnen südlich des Humboldthain (Wedding)
WBR 7717 WBT 3726 48.3 gültig 3657 SPD 1261 34.5 CDU 864 23.6 Grüne 537 14.7 Linke 251 6.9 Piraten 314 8.6 NPD 65 1.8 FDP 37 1.0
1C 107, 110-2, 114 Bernauer Straße
WBR 5675 WBT 3949 69.6 gültig 3913 SPD 979 25.0 CDU 529 13.5 Grüne 1416 36.2 Linke 338 8.6 Piraten 383 9.8 NPD 27 0.7 FDP 92 2.4
1D 113, 115-7, 123 untere Kastanienallee, östliche Torstraße
WBR 5372 WBT 3454 64.3 gültig 3416 SPD 847 24.8 CDU 454 13.3 Grüne 1242 36.4 Linke 290 8.5 Piraten 344 10.1 NPD 15 0.4 FDP 90 2.6
1E 105, 106, 108, 109, 125, 126 zwischen Torstraße und Invalidenstraße
WBR 5392 WBT 3489 64.7 gültig 3466 SPD 906 26.1 CDU 552 15.9 Grüne 1061 30.6 Linke 344 9.9 Piraten 346 10.0 NPD 24 0.7 FDP 100 2.9
1F 118, 119, 121, 122, 127 Scheunenviertel
WBR 4165 WBT 2601 62.4 gültig 2587 SPD 607 23.5 CDU 378 14.6 Grüne 817 31.6 Linke 303 11.7 Piraten 261 10.1 NPD 27 1.0 FDP 78 3.0
2A 207, 209-11, 229-231 Rosa-Luxemburg-Platz, Hackescher Markt
WBR 6031 WBT 3747 62.1 gültig 3673 SPD 957 26.1 CDU 523 14.2 Grüne 990 27.0 Linke 600 16.3 Piraten 358 9.7 NPD 23 0.6 FDP 68 1.9
2B 200-4, 228 Friedrichstadt
WBR 6406 WBT 4148 64.8 gültig 4098 SPD 1126 27.5 CDU 883 21.5 Grüne 501 12.2 Linke 967 23.6 Piraten 282 6.9 NPD 49 1.2 FDP 112 2.7
2C 205, 206, 208, 212, 218, 220, 226 Alt-Berlin, Friedrichswerder
WBR 6539 WBT 4120 63.0 gültig 4065 SPD 1153 28.4 CDU 529 13.0 Grüne 456 11.2 Linke 1299 32.0 Piraten 278 6.8 NPD 55 1.4 FDP 77 1.9
2D 219, 221-4, 227 Luisenstadt (Teil in Mitte)
WBR 5987 WBT 3756 62.7 gültig 3690 SPD 1133 30.7 CDU 481 13.0 Grüne 520 14.1 Linke 972 26.3 Piraten 283 7.7 NPD 56 1.5 FDP 49 1.3
2E 213-7, 225 Alexanderplatz und östlich
WBR 6178 WBT 3983 64.5 gültig 3935 SPD 1166 29.6 CDU 446 11.3 Grüne 285 7.2 Linke 1439 36.6 Piraten 269 6.8 NPD 89 2.3 FDP 26 0.7
3A 300, 301, 327-30 Hauptbahnhof, Reichstag
WBR 6154 WBT 3478 56.5 gültig 3417 SPD 929 27.2 CDU 848 24.8 Grüne 704 20.6 Linke 231 6.8 Piraten 364 10.7 NPD 38 1.1 FDP 57 1.7
3B 322-6 Tiergarten
WBR 6024 WBT 3244 53.9 gültig 3198 SPD 919 28.7 CDU 694 21.7 Grüne 792 24.8 Linke 193 6.0 Piraten 315 9.8 NPD 18 0.6 FDP 80 2.5
3C 317-21 Hansaviertel
WBR 4670 WBT 3123 66.9 gültig 3080 SPD 832 27.0 CDU 837 27.2 Grüne 815 26.5 Linke 167 5.4 Piraten 207 6.7 NPD 21 0.7 FDP 73 2.4
3D 302-6, 313 Moabit Südost
WBR 5996 WBT 3973 66.3 gültig 3911 SPD 1087 27.8 CDU 786 20.1 Grüne 1218 31.1 Linke 215 5.5 Piraten 331 8.5 NPD 30 0.8 FDP 85 2.2
3E 307-11 Moabit Südwest
WBR 4892 WBT 2597 53.1 gültig 2562 SPD 757 29.5 CDU 404 15.8 Grüne 711 27.8 Linke 149 5.8 Piraten 310 12.1 NPD 29 1.1 FDP 34 1.3
3F 312, 314-6 Moabit Süd
WBR 4673 WBT 3248 69.5 gültig 3213 SPD 913 28.4 CDU 604 18.8 Grüne 1040 32.4 Linke 187 5.8 Piraten 264 8.2 NPD 26 0.8 FDP 47 1.5
4A 400-2, 404-7 Moabit Nordwest
WBR 6834 WBT 3405 49.8 gültig 3343 SPD 939 28.1 CDU 529 15.8 Grüne 802 24.0 Linke 238 7.1 Piraten 477 14.3 NPD 60 1.8 FDP 48 1.4
4B 403, 420-3 Nordhafen
WBR 4801 WBT 2670 55.6 gültig 2642 SPD 720 27.3 CDU 410 15.5 Grüne 720 27.3 Linke 180 6.8 Piraten 378 14.3 NPD 33 1.2 FDP 40 1.5
4C 408-13 Moabit Nord
WBR 5867 WBT 3531 60.2 gültig 3477 SPD 932 26.8 CDU 530 15.2 Grüne 1015 29.2 Linke 246 7.1 Piraten 433 12.5 NPD 37 1.1 FDP 50 1.4
4D 414, 415, 417, 418 Moabit Nordost
WBR 3949 WBT 2086 52.8 gültig 2042 SPD 606 29.7 CDU 366 17.9 Grüne 530 26.0 Linke 104 5.1 Piraten 229 11.2 NPD 23 1.1 FDP 34 1.7
4E 416, 419, 424, 425, 427, 428 Wedding zwischen Genter Straße und Seestraße
WBR 6264 WBT 3361 53.7 gültig 3286 SPD 885 26.9 CDU 463 14.1 Grüne 877 26.7 Linke 250 7.6 Piraten 476 14.5 NPD 38 1.2 FDP 46 1.4
4F 426, 429-33 Wedding westlich Tegeler Straße, südlich Genter Straße
WBR 6145 WBT 3133 51.0 gültig 3068 SPD 884 28.8 CDU 394 12.8 Grüne 836 27.2 Linke 278 9.1 Piraten 408 13.3 NPD 37 1.2 FDP 28 0.9
5A 500-4, 514, 515 nördl. Afrikanisches Viertel, Rehberge
WBR 6225 WBT 3117 50.1 gültig 3022 SPD 1005 33.3 CDU 739 24.5 Grüne 425 14.1 Linke 192 6.4 Piraten 309 10.2 NPD 77 2.5 FDP 51 1.7
5B 516-21 südl. Afrikanisches Viertel
WBR 5605 WBT 3186 56.8 gültig 3127 SPD 850 27.2 CDU 680 21.7 Grüne 677 21.7 Linke 200 6.4 Piraten 375 12.0 NPD 51 1.6 FDP 51 1.6
5C 505-8, 512, 527 zwischen Müllerstraße, Barfusstraße, Holländerstraße
WBR 5951 WBT 3526 59.3 gültig 3454 SPD 1125 32.6 CDU 1106 32.0 Grüne 431 12.5 Linke 137 4.0 Piraten 316 9.1 NPD 84 2.4 FDP 53 1.5
5D 509,11, 513, 522 zwischen Seestraße und Barfusstraße
WBR 4678 WBT 2206 47.2 gültig 2157 SPD 743 34.4 CDU 534 24.8 Grüne 267 12.4 Linke 130 6.0 Piraten 198 9.2 NPD 57 2.6 FDP 30 1.4
5E 523-6, 528-30 zwischen Schulstraße und Seestraße
WBR 7873 WBT 3842 48.8 gültig 3758 SPD 1094 29.1 CDU 529 14.1 Grüne 840 22.4 Linke 309 8.2 Piraten 559 14.9 NPD 52 1.4 FDP 40 1.1
6A 601, 602, 608-11 nördl. Gesundbrunnen westlich Wollankstraße
WBR 5755 WBT 2551 44.3 gültig 2484 SPD 717 28.9 CDU 395 15.9 Grüne 470 18.9 Linke 249 10.0 Piraten 339 13.6 NPD 45 1.8 FDP 34 1.4
6B 603-7 östlich Wollankstraße, nördl. Osloer Straße
WBR 4899 WBT 2212 45.2 gültig 2174 SPD 599 27.6 CDU 347 16.0 Grüne 445 20.5 Linke 202 9.3 Piraten 288 13.2 NPD 50 2.3 FDP 19 0.9
6C 612, 632-5 südlich Osloer Straße
WBR 5887 WBT 2987 50.7 gültig 2901 SPD 916 31.6 CDU 417 14.4 Grüne 664 22.9 Linke 212 7.3 Piraten 368 12.7 NPD 67 2.3 FDP 24 0.8
6D 623, 625-7, 630, 631 östlich des Humboldthain
WBR 5705 WBT 2549 44.7 gültig 2473 SPD 854 34.5 CDU 427 17.3 Grüne 437 17.7 Linke 237 9.6 Piraten 228 9.2 NPD 46 1.9 FDP 22 0.9
6E 613-8, 621 östliches Pankebecken, nördlich des Humboldthain
WBR 6676 WBT 2935 44.0 gültig 2858 SPD 838 29.3 CDU 421 14.7 Grüne 565 19.8 Linke 211 7.4 Piraten 406 14.2 NPD 52 1.8 FDP 44 1.5
6F 600, 619, 620, 622, 624, 628, 629 westliches Pankebecken (links der Wiesenstraße)
WBR 6628 WBT 2970 44.8 gültig 2906 SPD 890 30.6 CDU 550 18.9 Grüne 531 18.3 Linke 228 7.8 Piraten 308 10.6 NPD 44 1.5 FDP 30 1.0
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Reply #1308 on:
September 24, 2011, 04:45:45 am »
Yeah, I know I stretched the table there a bit. Anyways, Berlin Mitte by postal precinct.
Format
postal precinct, day precincts, short description
reg'd voters, turnout, valid, and then the parties
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 25, 2011, 04:40:12 am »
Woah. The city of Berlin not just calculated these results by postal precinct (without apparently releasing the raw data, or maybe I haven't found them yet), it calculated Pearson correlations for certain social indicators and party strength in them, separately for East and West Berlin.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Other includes NPD and Pirates, despite their being separately listed.
East Berlin
Indicator SPD CDU GRÜNE DIE LINKE FDP Other NPD Pirate Non-voting
18-30 year olds – 0,59 – 0,64 0,16 – 0,45 – 0,29 0,46 – 0,14 0,48 0,45
30-60 year olds – 0,18 0,10 0,72 – 0,78 0,50 0,34 – 0,50 0,53 – 0,29
over 60 year olds 0,45 0,26 – 0,63 0,83 – 0,23 – 0,50 0,45 – 0,65 – 0,02
18-21 year olds – 0,62 – 0,15 – 0,56 – 0,03 – 0,33 – 0,17 0,47 – 0,36 0,72
over 80 year olds 0,45 0,12 – 0,41 0,69 – 0,23 – 0,36 0,25 – 0,44 – 0,09
high female share among 18-30 year olds 0,02 – 0,38 0,71 – 0,49 0,12 0,39 – 0,57 0,62 – 0,24
church membership (state churches) 0,16 0,03 0,93 – 0,65 0,57 0,39 – 0,73 0,69 – 0,57
German citizens with migrant background – 0,38 – 0,41 0,01 0,03 – 0,10 – 0,30 – 0,16 – 0,13 0,37
Non-Citizens – 0,08 – 0,34 0,59 – 0,25 0,28 0,12 – 0,66 0,46 – 0,16
Welfare recipients – 0,76 – 0,72 – 0,37 – 0,01 – 0,61 – 0,15 0,28 – 0,22 0,89
Welfare recipients with children – 0,61 – 0,68 – 0,51 0,25 – 0,65 – 0,28 0,33 – 0,36 0,85
lower rent areas – 0,18 0,03 0,20 – 0,32 0,17 0,29 – 0,15 0,33 – 0,05
middling rent areas 0,07 – 0,18 – 0,27 0,35 – 0,31 – 0,25 0,22 – 0,32 0,19
high rent areas 0,22 0,29 0,14 – 0,06 0,28 – 0,08 – 0,14 – 0,02 – 0,27
people residing at address for >5 years 0,28 0,55 – 0,64 0,66 – 0,07 – 0,45 0,53 – 0,66 – 0,04
Berlin-West
18-30 – 0,63 – 0,83 0,08 0,74 – 0,69 0,71 – 0,07 0,67 0,68
30-60 – 0,23 – 0,56 0,75 0,68 – 0,26 0,56 – 0,45 0,76 – 0,09
60plus 0,52 0,83 – 0,49 – 0,85 0,57 – 0,76 0,31 – 0,86 – 0,36
18-21 – 0,46 – 0,39 – 0,26 0,30 – 0,45 0,37 0,21 0,18 0,56
80+ 0,30 0,54 – 0,42 – 0,60 0,35 – 0,59 0,18 – 0,66 – 0,12
young women – 0,07 – 0,35 0,35 0,30 – 0,11 0,17 – 0,28 0,31 0,04
churched 0,49 0,88 – 0,12 – 0,75 0,67 – 0,64 0,10 – 0,57 – 0,68
migrant background – 0,41 – 0,64 – 0,18 0,40 – 0,57 0,32 0,10 0,14 0,74
noncitizen – 0,52 – 0,84 0,29 0,75 – 0,50 0,54 – 0,33 0,63 0,56
welfare – 0,64 – 0,78 – 0,23 0,58 – 0,78 0,59 0,17 0,37 0,90
children – 0,61 – 0,77 – 0,27 0,55 – 0,79 0,58 0,22 0,35 0,91
simple – 0,58 – 0,54 – 0,30 0,44 – 0,66 0,59 0,39 0,29 0,71
middling 0,23 0,33 – 0,08 – 0,27 0,11 – 0,12 0,06 – 0,15 – 0,26
high 0,45 0,31 0,42 – 0,25 0,65 – 0,55 – 0,50 – 0,20 – 0,56
5 years+ 0,55 0,80 – 0,10 – 0,67 0,57 – 0,51 0,18 – 0,56 – 0,67
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Wow that's beyond even my wide screen of my laptop as opposed to my smaller flat screen plug in
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September 26, 2011, 05:37:23 am »
Since the data Lewis posted is great, but hard to read, I decided to put some of the most interesting indicators into a more user-friendly format.
Some surprising (to me) correlations in bold:
Berlin East
younger than 30 years:
SPD -0,59
CDU -0,64
Greens +0,16
Linke -0,45
FDP -0,29
NPD -0,14
Pirates +0,48
Non-voting +0,45
older than 60 years:
SPD +0,45
CDU +0,26
Greens -0,63
Linke +0,83
FDP -0,23
NPD +0,45
Pirates -0,65
Non-voting -0,02
Migrantos:
SPD – 0,38
CDU – 0,41
Greens +0,01
Linke +0,03
FDP -0,10
NPD – 0,16
Pirates – 0,13
Non-voting +0,37
Welfare recipients
SPD – 0,76
CDU – 0,72
Greens – 0,37
Linke– 0,01
FDP -0,61
NPD +0,28
Pirates – 0,22
Non-voting +0,89
lower rent areas
SPD – 0,18
CDU +0,03
Greens +0,20
Linke – 0,32
FDP +0,17
NPD – 0,15
Pirates +0,33
Non-voting – 0,05
middling rent areas
SPD +0,07
CDU – 0,18
Greens – 0,27
Linke +0,35
FDP -0,31
NPD +0,22
Pirates – 0,32
Non-voting 0,19
high rent areas
SPD +0,22
CDU +0,29
Greens +0,14
Linke – 0,06
FDP +0,28
NPD – 0,14
Pirates – 0,02
Non-voting – 0,27
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Berlin West
younger than 30 years
SPD – 0,63
CDU– 0,83
Greens +0,08
Linke +0,74
FDP -0,69
NPD – 0,07
Pirates +0,67
Non-voting +0,68
older than 60 years
SPD +0,52
CDU +0,83
Greens – 0,49
Linke – 0,85
FDP +0,57
NPD +0,31
Pirates – 0,86
Non-voting – 0,36
Migrantos
SPD – 0,41
CDU – 0,64
Greens – 0,18
Linke +0,40
FDP -0,57
NPD +0,10
Pirates +0,14
Non-voting +0,74
on welfare
SPD – 0,64
CDU – 0,78
Greens – 0,23
Linke +0,58
FDP -0,61
NPD +0,17
Pirates +0,37
Non-voting +0,90
lower rent areas
SPD – 0,58
CDU– 0,54
Greens – 0,30
Linke +0,44
FDP -0,66
NPD +0,39
Pirates +0,29
Non-voting +0,71
middle rent areas
SPD +0,23
CDU +0,33
Greens – 0,08
Linke – 0,27
FDP +0,11
NPD +0,06
Pirates – 0,15
Non-voting – 0,26
high rent areas
SPD +0,45
CDU +0,31
Greens +0,42
Linke – 0,25
FDP +0,65
NPD – 0,50
Pirates – 0,20
Non-voting – 0,56
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Yeah, that data is fascinating.
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September 26, 2011, 08:36:48 am »
New Spiegel poll by TNS Emnid:
31% [+8] SPD
31% [-3] CDU/CSU
18% [+7] Greens
7% [-5] Left
5% [+3] Pirate Party
4% [-11] FDP
4% [+1] Others
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September 26, 2011, 11:12:32 am »
What is Migrantos? And if they are what I think they are, why are they voting NAZI?
Also, am I the only one bothered by the fact that 60+ people; the ones old enough to remember Hitler, are voting NAZI?
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Quote from: Teddy (SoFE) on September 26, 2011, 11:12:32 am
What is Migrantos? And if they are what I think they are, why are they voting NAZI?
Also, am I the only one bothered by the fact that 60+ people; the ones old enough to remember Hitler, are voting NAZI?
Um, figures up to, oh, .3 or .35 or so should be read as "not correlated". Take the rent level figures for East Berlin for example: all they tell us is that that's not a factor determining party support in East Berlin in any way. (And that's without worrying about how the classification was arrived at.)
And I've never heard the word "migrantos" before either, but it means "Germans with indication of migrant background" here (which is defined as, either being a naturalized citizen, or being born with at least one parent not a German citizen, or being born in one of the countries from which we had "ethnic German" immigration since 45 [which means you technically weren't naturalized but recognized as having been a German all along], after january 1st 1946.)
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September 26, 2011, 11:49:04 am »
Anyways, I presume that this means that this sort of demographic data has been published somewhere?
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 26, 2011, 11:51:44 am »
I particularly love the huge correlation of Green votes (also, to a lesser extent, Pirate votes) in East Berlin with church membership.
Of course, it's because "church members" in East Berlin is really just a proxy for West Germans.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Quote from: Teddy (SoFE) on September 26, 2011, 11:12:32 am
What is Migrantos? And if they are what I think they are, why are they voting NAZI?
I 'invented' the term because I was to lazy to wright "Germans with a migrant background". It is not a word used in German.
And was Lewis said, the low correlations don't really mean much.
Also, you have to keep in mind that the "ethnic Germans" from Russia and Eastern Europe that Lewis mentioned, are included into the migrant panel, while at the same time many Turks, Arabs, Yugoslavians etc. don't have a passport and therefor can't vote in elections.
And the "ethnic" Germans' from Russia etc. show a very different voting pattern from other immigrant groups. Very strongly CDU and no less NPD than other Germans, to say the least.
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September 26, 2011, 12:00:17 pm »
I don't understand at all how these correlation work? Do you have the base raw numbers? Perhaps I could screw with those a make something that makes more sense to me.
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September 26, 2011, 12:03:06 pm »
I think that's an exaggeration. Poland and Romania Germans are probably more likely to vote CDU than ex-Soviet Germans.
Fabulously low turnouts though aren't. That commonly held opinion seems to be absolutely true.
Quote from: Teddy (SoFE) on September 26, 2011, 12:00:17 pm
I don't understand at all how these correlation work? Do you have the base raw numbers?
Don't think I do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_product-moment_correlation_coefficient
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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Quote from: Lewis Honeyboy Trondheim on September 26, 2011, 11:51:44 am
I particularly love the huge correlation of Green votes (also, to a lesser extent, Pirate votes) in East Berlin with church membership.
Of course, it's because "church members" in East Berlin is really just a proxy for West Germans.
That may well be my favourite electoral statistic ever.
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Quote from: Tender Branson on September 26, 2011, 08:36:48 am
New Spiegel poll by TNS Emnid:
31% [+8] SPD
31% [-3] CDU/CSU
18% [+7] Greens
7% [-5] Left
5% [+3] Pirate Party
4% [-11] FDP
4% [+1] Others
getting a bit of a political boner here, honestly.
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Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany
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September 28, 2011, 04:28:34 am »
LOL, Forsa tries to top any other pollster again (national poll).
CDU/CSU 31%
SPD 29%
Greens 19%
Left 7%
Pirates 7%
FDP 2%
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