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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« on: November 14, 2010, 10:30:26 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 03:05:09 AM »

HW is throwing out legislation faster than I threw out my last girlfriend! Tongue

I guess this could make some sense, but who would determine who validates these voters? Add it to the list of the responsibilities of the Moderator General? If so, should I amend to include that provision?
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 07:48:08 AM »

In my mind, it would be part of the RG's job.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 10:24:35 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 01:38:55 PM »

I accept as friendly.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2010, 01:41:20 PM »

Sorry to intrude, but wouldn't this just encourage people to register as zombies? Isn't it a good thing that people do have to fulfill certain requirements before they can even think of joining Atlasia?
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2010, 01:45:55 PM »

I support this bill. Anything to make it easier for new members to join Atlasia.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2010, 05:32:22 PM »

Sorry to intrude, but wouldn't this just encourage people to register as zombies? Isn't it a good thing that people do have to fulfill certain requirements before they can even think of joining Atlasia?

Increasing registration is one of the main goals of this new administration, so it remains to be seen what happens. That is a likely result though and I bet we'll see each side bickering about who's new zombies are more legitimate than the others in the near future. It's the natural direction of things around here.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2010, 05:51:09 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2010, 05:53:47 PM »

I'm leaning towards supporting this. My only worry would be the burden the RG may face keeping track of such voters, but it probably would be easier than I'm thinking...
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2010, 06:11:33 PM »

I'm leaning towards supporting this. My only worry would be the burden the RG may face keeping track of such voters, but it probably would be easier than I'm thinking...

Well the RG does keep track of when moves by voters become effective.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2010, 06:14:32 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2010, 06:19:57 PM »

Hm...I'm leaning towards supporting this. However, I share bgwah's sentiments that this might make a hectic job for the RG. Why don't we ask him? Wink
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 12:28:35 AM »

How long would they have before they're removed from the, um "pre-registration" rolls if they never end up meeting the voting requirements?
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 12:30:21 AM »

Why don't we just eliminate the overly-burdensome requirements for participation in the first place?

The way this reactionary system is set up to keep newcomers out is truly disgusting.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2010, 12:05:50 PM »

Why don't we just eliminate the overly-burdensome requirements for participation in the first place?

The way this reactionary system is set up to keep newcomers out is truly disgusting.

This is probably the best way to go about changing the rules if we are going to do anything at all. As it stands, this bill would create a nightmare for the RG, especially if a good number of newcomers do sign up. In this instead of a bill like this, we eliminate the prerequisites entirely or keep the status quo.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2010, 02:57:27 PM »

I don't see any reason to oppose this.  I agree with my colleague that we should be doing everything we can to make participation easier.  I would instead focus on more direct ways to remedy those that abuse the system rather than potentially shutting out legitimate Atlasians who wish to participate right away without meeting stringent requirements.  It is more important to me to give people their franchise and deal with the consequences than to try and prevent abuse and disorder by shutting everybody out.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2010, 04:07:52 PM »

This would make the live of me, the RG, more complicated. I must make a pre-registrations list and control it often. If it only one or two, no problem. But when it are much more then you make the RG to a full-time-job.

I think when someone want to join Atlasia, then he can register again when he have all the post he need.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2010, 05:26:43 PM »

Eliminating requirements would just result in someone winning with a bunch of 2 post accounts, everyone freaking out, a bunch of drama, and the requirements being re-instated.

I recommend avoiding such an unproductive scenario.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2010, 05:32:38 PM »

Eliminating requirements would just result in someone winning with a bunch of 2 post accounts, everyone freaking out, a bunch of drama, and the requirements being re-instated.

I recommend avoiding such an unproductive scenario.

You're right. So, I think we should keep things they way they are. This preregistration list seems a bit complicated for whoever is unfortunate enough to keep track of it.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2010, 06:08:28 PM »

Eliminating requirements would just result in someone winning with a bunch of 2 post accounts, everyone freaking out, a bunch of drama, and the requirements being re-instated.

I recommend avoiding such an unproductive scenario.

There's nothing wrong with "2 post accounts" unless they're sock accounts. Somebody might have joined just to participate on the Atlas Fantasy boards and have no interest in the rest of the forum.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2010, 06:53:41 PM »

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Does the sponsor accept or reject the amendment offered by the honerable gentleman?

Already accepted it lol

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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2010, 06:55:54 PM »

What is the likilihood that a large number join at once?


I don't think it will happen that often really.
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2010, 02:40:45 PM »

I said it before that I'm not a big fan of this proposal.

But anyway, something is missing in this proposal. There must be a time limit be set up when the poster must have the 75 posts. After this time he will be removed from the Pre-registration list.

I would suggest a time limit of a month.
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 10:10:57 PM »

Perhaps in order to make the job easier for the registrar general, we could create a stickied thread titled "intent to register" which does not actually mean registration, but indicates that a poster on Atlas intends to register in Atlasia upon his or her fulfilling of the citizenship requirements.

This keeps the list loose-based and removes most responsibility from the registrar general while also giving Atlasians a general idea of which new users are showing interest.

If the intention to register was also included with a party, that party could send a friendly reminder to the user when he or she nears his or her fulfillment requirements.
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