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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: November 17, 2010, 05:53:44 PM »

Too bad that there are very few adults like him in the Senate.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/17/lugar_rebukes_own_party_for_avoiding_new_start_debate_wants_to_force_vote_now

In a stunning rebuke to members of his own caucus, Senate Foreign Relations Committee ranking Republican Richard Lugar (R-IN) said on Wednesday that the GOP is intentionally trying to put off a vote on the New START treaty with Russia, and avoiding a serious discussion about the treaty within the caucus.

"At the moment, the Republican caucus is tied up in a situation where people don't want to make choices," Lugar told reporters in the hallway of the Capitol building Wednesday. "No one wants to be counted. No one wants to talk about it."


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Lugar wants the Democratic Senate leadership to cut off negotiations immediately and force a vote on New START now, to compel senators to get off the fence and to end the endless stalling coming from his own side of the aisle.

"I'm advising that the treaty should come on the floor so people will have to vote aye or nay [even if there's no deal]," he said. "I think when it finally comes down to it, we have sufficient number or senators who do have a sense of our national security. This is the time, this is the priority. Do it."


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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 05:58:46 PM »

I'm with Lugar on this one.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 06:04:54 PM »


^^^This.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 06:08:55 PM »

It's time for this Communist to be teabagged.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 01:51:55 AM »

The treaty is largely irrelevant (Russia is not going to launch nukes, period), but it saves a  bit of money, so go for it!
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 02:26:00 AM »

FF.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 02:29:27 AM »

It's time for this Communist to be teabagged.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 03:05:03 AM »

It's time for this Communist to be teabagged.

Huh?
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 03:06:37 AM »


BAD EVUL RINO!
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 04:21:23 AM »


He is going to be attacked as some far left Communist supporting RINO by the tea bagging right that has taken over the Republican Party.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 04:25:26 AM »

On foreign policy, Lugar's typically one of the good guys.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 11:00:42 AM »


Of course you are, comrade.

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 11:05:34 AM »

Lugar and Hatch make more sense as primary targets in 2012 than Snowe and Brown.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 02:27:32 PM »

Good for Lugar.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2010, 02:47:00 PM »

Seriously republicans, seriously?

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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2010, 03:26:06 PM »

He's not even saying vote for it... just have an up or down vote.  The Republicans were saying that about Bush's nominations... why shouldn't we have it about treaties.  The GOP needs to get a life... I wrote a column about this when Obama took office.  Obstructionism on principle is fine.  Obstructionism to be an obstructionist isn't.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2010, 06:18:06 PM »

He's not even saying vote for it... just have an up or down vote.  The Republicans were saying that about Bush's nominations... why shouldn't we have it about treaties.  The GOP needs to get a life... I wrote a column about this when Obama took office.  Obstructionism on principle is fine.  Obstructionism to be an obstructionist isn't.

But actually he is telling his colleagues to vote for it too.

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2010, 07:02:24 PM »

He's not even saying vote for it... just have an up or down vote.  The Republicans were saying that about Bush's nominations... why shouldn't we have it about treaties.  The GOP needs to get a life... I wrote a column about this when Obama took office.  Obstructionism on principle is fine.  Obstructionism to be an obstructionist isn't.

But actually he is telling his colleagues to vote for it too.

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Well, he's doing some encouraging for it.  But he's saying, that even those opposed to it should stop stalling and just vote.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2010, 11:45:42 PM »

He will get primaried by a Paulite tea partier I hope. *Looking at you John Hostettler*
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2010, 01:03:24 AM »

He will get primaried by a Paulite tea partier I hope. *Looking at you John Hostettler*

For opposing a sensible treaty?
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2010, 10:48:41 PM »

He will get primaried by a Paulite tea partier I hope. *Looking at you John Hostettler*

For opposing a sensible treaty?

Yep. Hence "Paulite tea partier".
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2010, 06:56:13 AM »

He will get primaried by a Paulite tea partier I hope. *Looking at you John Hostettler*

For opposing a sensible treaty?

You mean COMMIE treaty!
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2010, 05:00:35 PM »

Well, Lugar's real problem is that he apparently will vote for the Dream Act. If he does, he is going to be primaried. Someone should send him a memo.

I think this treaty is irrelevant.  Who cares about Russia's nukes?  The chances that they will use them are zero. I'd rather talk about public employee unions, myself.
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2010, 05:05:45 PM »

Well, Lugar's real problem is that he apparently will vote for the Dream Act. If he does, he is going to be primaried. Someone should send him a memo.

I think this treaty is irrelevant.  Who cares about Russia's nukes?  The chances that they will use them are zero. I'd rather talk about public employee unions, myself.

Lugar is going to be primaried no matter what. He voted for Librul Activist Judges, Sotomayor and Kagan, and refuses to call Obama the Great Socialist Antichrist.

The problem Republicans have is that if they ratify the treaty they will be giving Obama a political victory, a tangible achievement on which he can run in 2012. And as Mitch McConnell said, defeating Obama is more important for them than actually governing.
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2010, 07:52:36 PM »

Well, Lugar's real problem is that he apparently will vote for the Dream Act. If he does, he is going to be primaried. Someone should send him a memo.

I think this treaty is irrelevant.  Who cares about Russia's nukes?  The chances that they will use them are zero. I'd rather talk about public employee unions, myself.

Most Republicans would, Torie. Roll Eyes And that's part of the problem.

For starters, limiting the number of nukes--especially Russian ones--strongly reduces the chance of nuclear materials from them being passed on to terrorist organizations by rogue military officers. Even with the ascension of Tsar Vladimir, Russia is still largely a kleptocracy.
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