Swiss set to oust foreign criminals

[Tender Branson]

BTW:

The Swiss voters today also rejected a proposition to increase taxes for the rich.

It was rejected by about 60%.

[Tender Branson]

Thurgau the latest canton to report: 61.1% YES

[Insula Dei]

[Tender Branson]

The canton of Bern is currently more than 60% for YES.

[Tender Branson]

The canton of Luzern is with 55.2% for YES.

[Tender Branson]

Freiburg voted with 51.4% for NO.

[Tender Branson]

Tessin votes about 61% YES.

[Tender Branson]

I´ve calculated the most likely final results and it will be something like:

1.41 Mio. YES votes (53.2%)
1.24 Mio. NO votes (46.8%)

[Gustaf]

The US really needs to learn to be as sophisticated and progressive as Europe.

[I left.]

The US really needs to learn to be as sophisticated and progressive as Europe.

Don't forget how racist America is too!

[J. J.]

Does this mean Tina Turner has to move to Detroit?

[Tender Branson]

Does this mean Tina Turner has to move to Detroit?

If she murdered someone in Switzerland, or severely injured someone, defrauded Social Security or was involved in some case of severe burglary - then yes.

If she's just a foreigner in Switzerland who was not involved in a serious crime - then not.

[J. J.]

Does this mean Tina Turner has to move to Detroit?

If she murdered someone in Switzerland, or severely injured someone, defrauded Social Security or was involved in some case of severe burglary - then yes.

If she's just a foreigner in Switzerland who was not involved in a serious crime - then not.

I can't believe you took my comment seriously. 

[dead0man]

I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could be against this....shouldn't this be the default?

[I left.]

I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could be against this....shouldn't this be the default?

I really don't have all that much against the principle...but just imagine what the European press would be doing if the U.S. passed this.

[So the Heroes Fall]

The US really needs to learn to be as sophisticated and progressive as Europe.

Uh, this basically is already the current situation in the US. It's basically a given that any non-citizen who commits a felony will be deported. Actually is there any country that doesn't have such a policy or is this doing something different than I'm missing in this?

I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could be against this....shouldn't this be the default?

I really don't have all that much against the principle...but just imagine what the European press would be doing if the U.S. passed this.

Uh, non-citizen felons aren't deported?

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

Actually is there any country that doesn't have such a policy or is this doing something different than I'm missing in this?

France had it fully applied till 2003. In 2003, for the sake of this country, this law has been modified, to prevent an expulsion of the country (which sometimes could even be an interdiction of the territory) for people who arrived in France before 13, for those who spent a long time of their life in France, 10 years I think, for those who have built a family here. Only cases for which the judge don't have to take into account the above criteria being if the crime is about threatening 'high interests of the country' or terrorism. Interestingly enough it happened through Sarkozy Minister of Interior.

A change of the law which I find fully normal. When someone has an other nationality but arrived in the country early in his/her life, mainly knew this country, and/or spent enough time here to have his/her main ties, and/or has a family here, it just doesn't make sense to expel him, except if being harsh against people just because you think it's fine to be harsh only to be harsh makes sense for you. It prevents to pointlessly destroy a person still more, and at worst to destroy a family in the same time. Depends what's your point is when you punish someone, screwing him/her, or just punishing him/her and trying to make him/her better...

I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could be against this....shouldn't this be the default?

Not for me, see above.

I'm still trying to figure out how anybody could be against this....shouldn't this be the default?

I really don't have all that much against the principle...but just imagine what the European press would be doing if the U.S. passed this.

French media didn't give a f**k to what happened in Arizona. Maybe you had a bunch of articles in some papers, but nothing noticeable.

[London Man]

Does this mean Tina Turner has to move to Detroit?

If she murdered someone in Switzerland, or severely injured someone, defrauded Social Security or was involved in some case of severe burglary - then yes.

If she's just a foreigner in Switzerland who was not involved in a serious crime - then not.

I can't believe you took my comment seriously. 

I thought you were making a joke about crimes against music; but I couldn't think what she's sung that would qualify.

[Tender Branson]

Map:



Green = Yes
Pink = No

[dialectical fetishist]

Good.

[Tender Branson]

Switzerland is really extreme, wow.

oh Franzl, how wrong you are ...

Umfrage: Mehrheit für Abschiebung straffälliger Ausländer

München — Die Mehrheit der Deutschen fordert eine schnellere Abschiebung straffälliger Ausländer. In einer repräsentativen Emnid-Umfrage sprachen sich 68 Prozent der Befragten dafür aus, Ausländer nach einer Verurteilung wegen Schwerverbrechen, Sozialhilfebetrug oder Schwarzarbeit automatisch abzuschieben, wie der "Focus" berichtet. 26 Prozent sprachen sich dagegen aus.

Sie fordern damit eine ähnliche Regelung wie in der Schweiz, wo die Bürger am vergangenen Sonntag in einer Volksabstimmung die europaweit strengste Regelung zur Abschiebung krimineller Ausländer beschlossen hatten. Dem Gesetzentwurf der rechtspopulistischen Schweizerischen Volkspartei (SVP) hatten 52,9 Prozent der Wähler zugestimmt.

In der Umfrage in Deutschland fand die Forderung nach der automatischen Abschiebung mit 85 Prozent die höchste Unterstützung unter den Sympathisanten der Linkspartei. Bei der CDU/CSU unterstützen sie 75 Prozent, bei der SPD 67 Prozent und bei den Grünen 47 Prozent. 49 Prozent der Grünen-Anhänger lehnten die Forderung ab. Das Meinungsforschungsinstitut TNS Emnid befragte für den "Focus" 1000 repräsentativ ausgewählte Bürger.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hurYZ6_d8n4H-Sqq4lxnbAIJ-BuA?docId=CNG.9ea088730e094d2f96016649cc4f7879.641

Translation: An Emnid poll in Germany shows 68% of Germans support an automatical deportation of foreigners who committed serious crimes like murder, rape, burglary and social security abuse, while just 26% are opposed.

85% of Left Party voters support deportation, CDU/CSU voters with 75%, SPD voters 67%.

Only Green voters are slightly opposed by 47-49.