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« on: November 25, 2010, 05:01:38 PM »

www.vdare.com
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 05:11:07 PM »

Looks like a borderline neo-Nazi CARLHAYDEN-esque site. Very negative.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 05:16:44 PM »

Looks like a borderline neo-Nazi CARLHAYDEN-esque site. Very negative.
They are mostly anti-immigration, though they have many articles on what is called "racial realism".
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 05:20:16 PM »

FAQ: How do I report an illegal alien?

Disgusting site. I seriously think the world would be better off if we shot everyone linked to this site trough the head and had them replaced by 'Illegal Immigrants'.
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 05:31:50 PM »

FAQ: How do I report an illegal alien?

Disgusting site. I seriously think the world would be better off if we shot everyone linked to this site trough the head and had them replaced by 'Illegal Immigrants'.
You're not doing your side any favors, you know that?
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 06:27:20 PM »

FAQ: How do I report an illegal alien?

Disgusting site. I seriously think the world would be better off if we shot everyone linked to this site trough the head and had them replaced by 'Illegal Immigrants'.
You're not doing your side any favors, you know that?

You are of course aware of the fact that these kind of meta-statements are as fallacial as whatever I just said in a genuine outburst of disgust. These people are hellbent on not having anyone else anywhere near a half-decent life and as such are unworthy of their own luxurious existence as far as I am concerned. You may think they make some valid points. I know they don't. Because in the end their argument boils down to: 'these people should not have an existence that is modest compared to mine, cause if they do I would have to suffer irrational fears for a tiny fall in my own standard of life.'

I think that that kind of reasoning, even if it would contains some amount of truth, just shows how incredibly selfish most anti-immigration types are and as I have said before: to me that's just basically forfeiting your right to any bit of compassion.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 10:28:34 PM »

FAQ: How do I report an illegal alien?

Disgusting site. I seriously think the world would be better off if we shot everyone linked to this site trough the head and had them replaced by 'Illegal Immigrants'.
You're not doing your side any favors, you know that?

You are of course aware of the fact that these kind of meta-statements are as fallacial as whatever I just said in a genuine outburst of disgust. These people are hellbent on not having anyone else anywhere near a half-decent life and as such are unworthy of their own luxurious existence as far as I am concerned. You may think they make some valid points. I know they don't. Because in the end their argument boils down to: 'these people should not have an existence that is modest compared to mine, cause if they do I would have to suffer irrational fears for a tiny fall in my own standard of life.'

I think that that kind of reasoning, even if it would contains some amount of truth, just shows how incredibly selfish most anti-immigration types are and as I have said before: to me that's just basically forfeiting your right to any bit of compassion.

Anti-illegal immigration =/= anti-immigrant. Lets go ahead and get that out of the way first, ok? Would you want millions of undocumented French immigrants over running the border towns in your nation?
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 04:58:45 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2010, 06:36:04 AM by belgianlibertarian31!!! »

FAQ: How do I report an illegal alien?

Disgusting site. I seriously think the world would be better off if we shot everyone linked to this site trough the head and had them replaced by 'Illegal Immigrants'.
You're not doing your side any favors, you know that?

You are of course aware of the fact that these kind of meta-statements are as fallacial as whatever I just said in a genuine outburst of disgust. These people are hellbent on not having anyone else anywhere near a half-decent life and as such are unworthy of their own luxurious existence as far as I am concerned. You may think they make some valid points. I know they don't. Because in the end their argument boils down to: 'these people should not have an existence that is modest compared to mine, cause if they do I would have to suffer irrational fears for a tiny fall in my own standard of life.'

I think that that kind of reasoning, even if it would contains some amount of truth, just shows how incredibly selfish most anti-immigration types are and as I have said before: to me that's just basically forfeiting your right to any bit of compassion.

Anti-illegal immigration =/= anti-immigrant. Lets go ahead and get that out of the way first, ok? Would you want millions of undocumented French immigrants over running the border towns in your nation?


To answer your example without ground in reality with one that has some ground at least: how would you like if Native Americans decided to go around and ask for your greencard issued by the United Tribes of North America. In fact Native Americans would be at least sort of justified to do so since arguably you guys are the most rotten immigrants ever, just killing the hell out of them and stuff.  You on the other hand have never been hurt by any illegal immigrant whatsoever, and IMO have not an awfully convincing case to make when you protest immigration of any kind whatsoever.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 05:21:49 AM »

Illegal immigration has lots of negative effects.....not to mention just opposing it on principle, why should we condone criminal acts?
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 05:27:55 AM »

Illegal immigration has lots of negative effects.....not to mention just opposing it on principle, why should we condone criminal acts?

     You could say that the law in question is immoral & therefore should be ignored. The problem with that is that, as you point out, illegal immigration carries a number of negatives with it that legal immigration does not.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 06:37:14 AM »

Illegal immigration has lots of negative effects.....not to mention just opposing it on principle, why should we condone criminal acts?

     You could say that the law in question is immoral & therefore should be ignored. The problem with that is that, as you point out, illegal immigration carries a number of negatives with it that legal immigration does not.

What negative efects does 'illegal' immigration have that are not a consequence of the general absurdity of the notion 'illegal' immigration?
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 07:27:11 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2010, 07:30:06 AM by dead0man »

FAQ: How do I report an illegal alien?

Disgusting site. I seriously think the world would be better off if we shot everyone linked to this site trough the head and had them replaced by 'Illegal Immigrants'.
You're not doing your side any favors, you know that?

You are of course aware of the fact that these kind of meta-statements are as fallacial as whatever I just said in a genuine outburst of disgust. These people are hellbent on not having anyone else anywhere near a half-decent life and as such are unworthy of their own luxurious existence as far as I am concerned. You may think they make some valid points. I know they don't. Because in the end their argument boils down to: 'these people should not have an existence that is modest compared to mine, cause if they do I would have to suffer irrational fears for a tiny fall in my own standard of life.'

I think that that kind of reasoning, even if it would contains some amount of truth, just shows how incredibly selfish most anti-immigration types are and as I have said before: to me that's just basically forfeiting your right to any bit of compassion.

Anti-illegal immigration =/= anti-immigrant. Lets go ahead and get that out of the way first, ok? Would you want millions of undocumented French immigrants over running the border towns in your nation?


To answer your example without ground in reality with one that has some ground at least: how would you like if Native Americans decided to go around and ask for your greencard issued by the United Tribes of North America. In fact Native Americans would be at least sort of justified to do so since arguably you guys are the most rotten immigrants ever, just killing the hell out of them and stuff.  You on the other hand have never been hurt by any illegal immigrant whatsoever, and IMO have not an awfully convincing case to make when you protest immigration of any kind whatsoever.
Nice dodge!

What negative efects does 'illegal' immigration have that are not a consequence of the general absurdity of the notion 'illegal' immigration?
The second half of that sentence doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2010, 07:36:05 AM »

That was my libertarian persona getting the better of me.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2010, 07:42:02 AM »

Well that clears everything up.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2010, 12:36:11 AM »

You on the other hand have never been hurt by any illegal immigrant whatsoever, and IMO have not an awfully convincing case to make when you protest immigration of any kind whatsoever.

And how would you assume to know that? I live in an area with the same sort of immigration problems that other border states like mine have.
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2010, 11:28:06 AM »

You on the other hand have never been hurt by any illegal immigrant whatsoever, and IMO have not an awfully convincing case to make when you protest immigration of any kind whatsoever.

And how would you assume to know that? I live in an area with the same sort of immigration problems that other border states like mine have.

When was the last time an illegal immigrant stole your job?
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2010, 12:06:47 PM »

Actually underskilled illegals are a huge problem in the trucking industry.
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