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« Reply #775 on: November 04, 2011, 11:58:32 PM »

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« Reply #776 on: November 05, 2011, 10:01:41 AM »

New York City...
    Chancellor: Welcome back to Decision 1980 on the National Broadcasting Station. With ten o'clock having passed, a wave of new results has come pouring in. In the Interior West, Reagan seems to be making good. However, in the Northern parts he will be relying heavily on Hatfield's influence as both North Dakota and Montana are too close to call. The South-West, however, is one of Reagan's strongest regions and that can be seen with the early calling of Utah and Arizona, two states going heavily for Reagan. We are expecting results from New Mexico and Colorado as well within the hour which should bode well for Reagan. However, in good news for Kennedy, the South-East is boding surprisingly well. Of course, the best recent performance for Democrats in the South was Vice-President Terry Sanford in 1972. However, it appears like Kennedy, due to surprisingly low Republican turnout in the South tonight, has taken both Georgia and Tennessee, two states that have voted Democrat in the last two elections.
    Brokaw: Also of note is Independent candidate Eugene McCarthy taking Wisconsin, neighbor of his own home state Minnesota, with over 40% of the vote. As results from the ten o'clock states came in, so did this. This gives McCarthy a total of 21 electoral votes, beating the last third party candidate to win a state, John Schmitz in 1972, who garnered a total of eighteen electoral votes. However, at this point in the race, it is impossible for McCarthy to hope for a victory. However, given the Reagan victory in Illinois and the closeness of New York, it appears McCarthy has made the statement he intended when he first set out on this Presidential campaign.
    Chancellor: With the map fast filling up, it is deemed possible for this election to be resolved before we hit the Pacific states. However, Reagan will have to perform well in every state currently up for grabs.

President Kennedy/Vice-President McGovern: 128
Governor Reagan/Senator Hatfield: 209
Senator McCarthy/Senator Gravel: 21
Too Close to Call: 91
Still Polling: 89

    Brokaw: It is important to note that this is not Hatfield's first time on a Presidential ticket.
    Chancellor: Yes. He first came to national prominence as an anti-war Republican and as George Romney's running-mate in 1968. This helped launch his 1972 campaign, resulting in his 1976 and 1980 campaigns for the nomination. While he has failed to win the nomination all three times, it is clear he represents the anti-war movement among Republicans and is prominent enough to be put on the Vice-Presidential ticket a second time so it seems.
    Brokaw: And Hatfield, for his party, has been one heck of a campaigner. While Reagan has concentrated on the South, the Mid-West, and the South-West, Hatfield has been concentrated on holding down the North-West as well as campaigning in the North-East for Reagan. It was rumored that some Republican New England states such as Vermont might actually try to go for Kennedy or McCarthy given Reagan's Conservatism. However, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine have all gone for Reagan and it looks like Hatfield's done his job.
    Chancellor: We are now ready to make another call. Or another number of calls. Alabama, for the first time since 1956, is going for the Democratic nominee. Remember, Kennedy is not popular in the state. However, it appears Senate candidate Jim Folsom Jr. has drawn a number of apathetic Democrats out of hiding and brought the state over to Kennedy. Meanwhile, Reagan has taken the close state of Delaware as well as New Mexico. This is expected.
    Brokaw: Right John. Reagan, as said before, is very strong in the South-West and it's been looking for a while like some of the more moderate Eastern states might go for Reagan and that proved right for Reagan in Delaware, a state which went for both Agnew and Bush.
    Chancellor: As well, it also went for George Romney, the first man Hatfield was on a national ticket with. 
    Brokaw: Now let's go to the map, which should be looking more and more filled up by now.

President Kennedy/Vice-President McGovern: 137
Governor Reagan/Senator Hatfield: 223
Senator McCarthy/Senator Gravel: 21
Too Close to Call: 79
Still Polling: 78
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« Reply #777 on: November 05, 2011, 12:13:13 PM »

Reagan will win CA and OR. the election is over.
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« Reply #778 on: November 06, 2011, 05:26:19 PM »

Its a bad night for Kennedy..
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« Reply #779 on: November 08, 2011, 07:10:01 AM »

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« Reply #780 on: November 11, 2011, 03:22:36 PM »


New York City, the end of the night...
    John Chancellor: Well, the time has come. You've seen the map. We've looked at the figures. And now NBC News makes its projection for the Presidency. Reagan is our projected winner. Ronald Wilson Reagan of California. A sports announcer, a film actor, a Nixon Administration official, a Senator and a Governor of California is our projected winner. At just past ten o'clock Eastern Standard Time on this election night we have projected Ronald Reagan the winner. And, to add evidence to the prediction, we are projecting him the winner in more states. By out calculations, Ronald Reagan is the winner in the state of Montana and in the state, his home state, of California. We will be coloring those in on the map. Blue for Reagan, or light gray if you're in black and white. With those two states, Reagan has soared past the number required which he had already beaten by one electoral vote. Right now it is three hundred and nineteen for Reagan, one hundred and seventy eight for Kennedy, and 21 for independent candidate Eugene McCarthy who has won the two states of Minnesota and Wisconsin. This is not an early call, but it is a decisive one.
    Tom Brokaw: Exactly. This race has, as we've been saying, the word we've been using, volatile all year, but I don't think anyone thought we'd be waiting until ten o'clock to make a call. One has to notice that despite Reagan's good numbers it took quite a while to get there and Kennedy put up a heck of a fight even with McCarthy taking his votes in the West and North.
    John Chancellor: Tom, four years ago we called the election for Bobby Kennedy well into the night. However, this is far more decisive a victory than 1976 was.
    Tom Brokaw: I remember well.
    John Chancellor: And going back on close elections there have been quite a lot in the decade. I remember twelve years ago calling the race for John Kennedy's re-election when he was up against the challenge of George Romney. This however will go down as probably the largest electoral victory for a candidate since Eisenhower in 1956 and there's the evidence on the map. Not a single state West of the Mississippi has gone for Kennedy and the only real fight past that point was with Gene McCarthy. Wow. What an election and with Reagan as the winer.
    Tom Brokaw: A personal note, but I can't help but recall in 1964 riding around in a Greyhound bus with him as he was trying to win the Republican nomination for Senator from California and a lot of people were laughing at him then, in 1964. And they've learned of every election of which he's been involved, never laugh at the chances of Ronald Reagan. He has always won by pretty substantial margins except his 1972 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. But when he gets into a general election he does extremely well.
    John Chancellor: Well he's now won the big one. David Brinkley will be along after this. Meanwhile, let's let the viewers have another look at the map.

President Kennedy/Vice-President McGovern: 178
Governor Reagan/Senator Hatfield: 319
Senator McCarthy/Senator Gravel: 21
Too Close to Call: 4
Still Polling: 16

Cheers erupt in the Reagan headquarters, President Kennedy finds himself somber and alone, Eugene McCarthy just nods as he knew this would come. The election is over...
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« Reply #781 on: November 11, 2011, 03:33:03 PM »
« Edited: November 11, 2011, 03:44:08 PM by Cathcon »

1980 United States Presidential Election Map

Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR) 332 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President George McGovern (D-SD) 178 electoral votes, 34.7% of the popular vote
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (FL-MN)/Senator Maurrce R. "Mike" Gravel (I/L-AK) 28 electoral votes, 14.2% of the popular vote
Others (Libertarian, Socialist) 0 electoral votes, .3% of the pouplar vote
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« Reply #782 on: November 11, 2011, 04:13:29 PM »

At least Regan's VP will do a great job Wink
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« Reply #783 on: November 11, 2011, 04:18:38 PM »

HOOT HOOT HOOT HOOT! (or is it Whoot?). Doesn't matter, the Kennedys are gone Smiley
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« Reply #784 on: November 12, 2011, 01:23:40 AM »
« Edited: March 31, 2012, 10:38:32 AM by Cathcon »

1980 Senate Elections

Republicans: 52 (+11)
Democrats: 45 (-12)
Conservatives: 1
Liberals: 1 (+1)
Independents: 1

Notable Races
Alabama: Jim Folsom Jr. is elected to the Senate. Many credit his campaign to President Kennedy winning the state.
Alaska: State Senator Dick Randolph is elected to the Senate seat Mike Gravel is vacating.
California: Despite an over 60% victory for Reagan in his home state, Senator Jerry Brown soars to an easy re-election over his opponents.
Kansas: Nancy Landon Kassebaum is elected over incumbent Senator William R. Roy who defeated Bob Dole in a close race six years ago.
New Hampshire: Republican Warren Rudman is elected to the Senate.
New York: Former Senator Jacob Javits, nominee of the New York Liberal Party, wins in a three way race in a state that just barely went for Kennedy on the Presidential level.

Other notable races
Arkansas: United States Agriculture Secretary (up until a few months ago) Bill Clinton is elected to the Governorship.
Connecticut: Democrat Joe Lieberman is elected to the House of Representatives.
Georgia: Congressman Newt Gingrich (R) is re-elected to a fourth term.
Texas: Congressmen George W. Bush and Ron Paul are both re-elected. In Texas' 4th Congressional District, businessman H. Ross Perot is elected to his first term in the House.
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« Reply #785 on: November 12, 2011, 01:37:14 AM »

The Cabinet of President-Elect Reagan (Pt. 1)

Secretary of State

William F. Buckley (R-CT)
Ambassador to the United Nations (1973-1975)

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Secretary of the Treasury

Caspar Weinberger (R-CA)
Member of the California State Assembly (1953-1959)
38th Lieutenant Governor of California (1967-1971)
2nd United States Secretary of Transportation (1973-1977)

"A friend of Reagan from their days together in California, Weinberger, though moderate, was an early sign on to the Reagan campaign and one of Reagan's "California Gang" that would be called in following his 1980 victory. Others, such as Ambassador to NATO William P. Casey and Chief of Staff Edwin Meese, were part of this gang. Weinberger, known for his ability to manage and cut costs, had been Reagan's first choice for Secretary of the Treasury, having proven his ability working for the Department of Transportation and for two California Governors' offices. He had headed Reagan's budget decreases and California economic recovery plan and now he would be joining Reagan at the top to try to balance America's budget and restore America's economy."
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Secretary of Defense

John Warner (R-VA)
7th United States Secretary of the Navy (1973-1977)
9th United States Secretary of the Navy (1979-1981)

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Attorney General

Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)
Member of the United States House of Representatives from Ohio's At-Large District (1963-1965)
Member of the United States House of Representatives from Ohio's 1st District (1967-1971)
Senator from Ohio (1971-1981)

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« Reply #786 on: November 12, 2011, 01:52:32 AM »

Reagans cabinet is shaping up nice. Buckley was a suprise, I was thinking Bush or maybe even Nixon.
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« Reply #787 on: November 12, 2011, 05:56:22 AM »

HOOT HOOT HOOT HOOT! (or is it Whoot?). Doesn't matter, the Kennedys are gone Smiley
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« Reply #788 on: November 12, 2011, 10:40:39 AM »

Reagans cabinet is shaping up nice. Buckley was a suprise, I was thinking Bush or maybe even Nixon.

I actually at one point planned to have Nixon be Agnew's UN Ambassador, but he serves best as the shadowy advisor that he'll be to this timeline's Republican Presidents. While he might've only had one term, his reputation is recovered by his years of extensive travelling and his knowledge of foreign affairs. As for Bush, well, you'll see. At one point I was going to make him Secretary of State, but he'll end up in a different job.
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« Reply #789 on: November 12, 2011, 04:08:53 PM »

List of maps and presidents so far for 1960-1980. Perhaps also a list of how history is different. For example, different laws, different court rulings, different wars. etc. etc.
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« Reply #790 on: November 12, 2011, 05:28:12 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2012, 11:31:52 AM by Reactionarycon »

List of Presidents of the United States
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961)
35. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965

36. John F. Kennedy (D-CA). January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD) January 20th, 1973-June 19th, 1974
38. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) June 19th, 1974-January20th, 1977

39. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-?

List of Vice-Presidents of the United States
36. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
37. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
38. Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
39. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1973-June 19th, 1974
Vacant: June 19th, 1974-July 3rd, 1974
40. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) July 3rd, 1974-January 20th, 1977
41. George McGovern (D-SD) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
42. Mark O. Hatfield (R-OR) January 20th, 1981-?

List of Senate Majority Leaders
Lyndond B. Johnson (D-TX) January 3rd, 1955-January 3rd, 1971
Hugh Scott (R-PA) January 3rd, 1971-January 3rd, 1975
Michael Mansfield (D-MT) January 3rd, 1975-January 3rd, 1977
Robert Byrd (D-WV) January 3rd, 1977-January 3rd, 1981

Howard H. Baker Jr. (R-TN) January 3rd, 1981-?

Notable American Conflicts
The Vietnam War: A police action in South-East Asia fighting North Vietnamese and Communist invaders of the pro-America South Vietnam. With the offensive surge and Operation HANOI in 1971, American forces were able to beat back North Vietnamese troops. This conflict also includes the American invasions of Cambodia and Laos in 1969 and 1970 which began the total crippling of the Vietcong and the North Vietnamese presence in South Vietnam.

The Palestinian War: Following the Munich Massacre in 1972 and the inauguration of the Angew Presidency, American involvement in Israeli-Palestinian affairs increased and America, with confidence after victory in South Vietnam, set itself up as the peacemaker between the two countries and at the same time as Israel's chief ally. With former Secretary of State Henry M. Jackson's fatal trip to Palestine in late 1974, Palestine chose to react. While the details of his death are sketchy, it is widely agreed that Jackson had been killed by a timed crude explosive in the motor of the car in which he was travelling in to meet with Palestinian leaders.  The Declaration of War on Palestine, the first "official" war America had engaged in since World War II and the subsequent invasion of Palestine in early 1975 began the Palestinian War. While destruction of the government was easy, Reconstruction, which began mere months after the initial invasion, proved the hardest part. With an active insurgency and a divided populace-half greeting America as a liberator and half seeing them as an unwelcome intruder-creating a functioning government of pro-Democracy America-friendly leaders proved to be one of the most difficult tasks. However, in 1979, the official State of Palestine was recognized with a functioning yet weak government and American troops withdrew in July of 1980.

Across the Way...
Afghanistan: Following the Soviet Invasion in 1979, what President Kennedy referred to as "a faint-hearted attempt at a conflict by a crumbling empire", the U. S. government, led by Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson has been aiding the Mujahideen and the Northern Alliance against the Soviet agressors.
Iran: With covert United States help, attempted coups were beaten back in 1977 and 1978 leaving the Shah, an American ally, in control of the country. He has proven a strategic ally against the pro-Soviet Iraq.
Palestine: Many American foreign policy wonks are predicting that Palestine will not last long before it descends into chaos. Kennedy's hopes of boosting approval ratings with the American withdrawal did not hold through to election day and now during the lame duck period many are criticizing the departing President Kennedy.
Vietnam: The South Vietnamese government has since stabilized and anti-corruption measures have been put in place.
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« Reply #791 on: November 12, 2011, 05:56:45 PM »

1960

Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador to the United Nations Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 270 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX); 248 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular votes
Unpledged Electors; 13 electoral votes; .5% of the popular vote

1964

Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Governor Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes, 43.7% of the popular vote
President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Vice-President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 212 electoral votes, 42.1% of the popular vote
Senator Strom Thurmond (DI-SC)/Governor Orville Faubus (DI-AR); 53 electoral votes, 14.5% of the popular vote

1968

President John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes; 43.9% of the popular vote
Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR); 212 electoral votes; 42.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor George Wallace (DI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (DI-CA); 53 electoral votes; 13.1% of the popular vote

1972

Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George HW Bush (R-TX); 278 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senate Minority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); 242 electoral votes, 46.1% of the popular vote
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 18 electoral votes; 4.7% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Libertarian, People's); 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

1976

Senator Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD); 281 electoral votes, 51.2% of the popular vote
President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Ronald Reagan (R-CA); 257 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Others; 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

1980

Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR) 332 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President George McGovern (D-SD) 178 electoral votes, 34.7% of the popular vote
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (FL-MN)/Senator Maurrce R. "Mike" Gravel (I/L-AK) 28 electoral votes, 14.2% of the popular vote
Others (Libertarian, Socialist) 0 electoral votes, .3% of the pouplar vote
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« Reply #792 on: November 12, 2011, 06:29:12 PM »

List of United States Secretaries of States
54. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) January 29th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
          President: Richard M. Nixon
55. Henry M Jackson (D-WA) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
          President: John F. Kennedy
56. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
          President: Spiro T. Agnew, George HW Bush
57. Zbigniew Brzezinski (D-NY) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
          President: Robert F Kennedy
Vacant January 20th, 1981-January 21st, 1981
58. William F. Buckley (R-CT) January 21st, 1981-?
         President: Ronald Reagan

List of United States Secretaries of the Treasury
57. Charles A. Halleck (R-IN) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
          President: Richard M. Nixon
58. Robert McNamara (R-MI) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1965
          President: John F. Kennedy
59. Gerald R Ford (R-MI) January 20th, 1973-July 8th, 1974
          President: Spiro T. Agnew, George H. W. Bush
Vacant July 8th, 1974-July 10th, 1974
60. John G. Tower (R-TX) July 10th, 1974-January 20th, 1977
          President: George H. W. Bush
61. George W. Romney (R-MI) January 20th, 1977-May 21st, 1979
          President: Robert F. Kennedy
Vacant May 21st, 1979-May 23rd, 1979
62. Robert McNamara (R-MI) May 23rd, 1979-January 20th, 1981
          President: Robert F. Kennedy
63. Robert Finch (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-?
          President: Ronald Reagan

List of United States Secretaries of Defense
8. Dogulas MacArthur (R-NY) January 20th, 1961-November 7th, 1962
          President: Richard M. Nixon
Vacant November 7th, 1962-November 21st, 1962
9. Walter H. Judd (R-MN) November 21st, 1962-January 20th, 1965
          President: Richard M. Nixon
10. James Roosevelt (D-CA) January 20th, 1965-January 2nd, 1967
          President: John F. Kennedy
11. John B Connally (D-TX) January 2nd, 1967-January 3rd, 1973
          President: John F. Kennedy
Vacant January 3rd, 1973-January 20th, 1973
12. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) January 20th, 1973-July 15th, 1974
          President: Spiro T. Agnew, George H. W. Bush
13. John Eisenhower (R-NY) July 15th, 1974-January 20th, 1977
          President: George H. W. Bush
14. James E. Carter (D-GA) January 20th, 1977-May 30th, 1979
          President: Robert F. Kennedy
15. Stansfield Turner (D-GA) May 30th, 1979-January 20th, 1981
          President: Robert F. Kennedy
16. John Warner (R-VA) January 20th, 1981-?
          President: Ronald Reagan

List of United States Attorneys General
64. John V. Lindsay (R-NY) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
          President: Richard M. Nixon
65. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1965-December 18th, 1972
          President: John F. Kennedy
Vacant December 18th, 1972-January 20th, 1973
66. John M. Ashbrook (R-OH) January 20th, 1973-July 19th, 1974
          President: Spiro T. Agnew, George HW Bush
67. Edward Brooke (R-MA) July 19th, 1974-May 5th, 1979
          President: George H. W. Bush, Robert F. Kennedy
68. Gary Hart (D-CO) May 5th, 1979-January 20th, 1981
          President: Robert F. Kennedy
69. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH) January 20th, 1981-?
          President: Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #793 on: November 12, 2011, 08:47:59 PM »

The Cabinet of President-Elect Ronald Reagan (Pt. 2)

Secretary of the Interior

Walter Hickel (R-AK)
2nd Governor of Alaska (1966-1974)

“A Hatfield supporter, Governor Wally Hickel of Alaska would be called into the cabinet to head the Interior Department. Previous other Republicans heading it had been Robert Finch and John Tower. Both had inconsequential roles in the long run, the high point of Tower’s career being as Treasury Secretary and later Secretary of Defense. However, Hickel, in partnership with Hatfield, would practically become Hatfield’s right-hand man in land preservation as well as development, two things not often seen as side-by-side goals.”
-Republicans in Revolution, Bob Woodward, ©2007

Secretary of Agriculture

Robert D. Ray (R-IA)
38th Governor of Iowa (1969-1981)

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Secretary of Commerce

John B. Connally (D-TX)
39th Governor of Texas (1963-1967)
11th United States Secretary of Defense (1967-1973)
United States Senator from Texas (1973-1979)
20th United States Secretary of Commerce (1979-?)

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Secretary of Labor

Ben Fernandez (R-CA)

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Secretary of Health and Human Services

Gerald R. Ford (R-MI)
Congressman from Michigan's 5th District (1949-1974)
16th United States House Minority Leader (1965-1973)
41st United States Treasury Secretary (1973-1974)
40th Vice-President of the United States of America (1974-1977)

“With the election of Ronald Reagan to the Presidency came a new wave of Republican Senate gains, not seen since 1970, ten years earlier. It seemed Republicans were on top of the world. We had beaten the Kennedys, we had re-gained the Presidency after the scandalous Spiro Agnew and the unlucky George Bush, we had the Senate, and we’d elected two of our greatest icons to the Presidency and Vice-Presidency respectively. On election night I called to congratulate Ron—I consider myself lucky to have even gotten through—and he said to me “Look Jerry, now that the election’s over Mark [Hatfield] and I need to start looking for a team that can truly lead the nation. We want you on board.” I’d said of course, I’d be willing to help. I imagined that if he did want me on board it’d be for some sort of advisorial appointment. I was surprised to see myself heading a cabinet administration. While definitely not even close to the most exciting of cabinet positions, I found it just right for my liking.”
-A Life in American Politics, Gerald R. Ford, ©1990


Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

William Thaddeus Coleman Jr. (R-PA)

“William T. Coleman was one of the many talented minds inside the cabinet I found myself in. The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, he had worked in every Republican Administration after Herbert Hoover, becoming a trusted advisor and the type of man the President would assign to head various sub-cabinet tasks with competence. Probably one of the better men Nixon, Agnew, and Bush found themselves around, I was glad to have him seated next to me at cabinet meetings. Yes, Strom Thurmond as usual, called it “White House Affirmative Action”, but hardly anyone on our side of the aisle listened to him.”
-A Life in American Politics, Gerald R. Ford, ©1990

Secretary of Education

Elizabeth Dole (I-KS)
2nd United States Secretary of Education (1973-1977)

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Secretary of Transportation

George W. Romney (R-MI)
43rd Governor of Michigan (1963-1969)
United States Senator from Michigan (1971-1977)
61st United States Treasury Secretary (1977-1979)

“Having been Hatfield’s 1968 running-mate, no-one was surprised the affable Michigan auto-executive would be going to work in an Administration Hatfield would have a large hand in, especially considering he was technically speaking out of a job at that point. Having worked as an auto-executive, a businessman, a Governor, a Senator, and a Treasury Secretary didn’t help either. All in all however, his time in that position was merely another chapter of Mr. Romney goes to Washington. Perhaps the high point of his time at that position would be his negotiations, along with Labor Secretary Ben Fernandez, with the Air-Traffic Strikers.”
-Land of My Father, Mitt Romney, ©2003

Secretary of Energy

James E. Carter (D-GA)
Georgia State Senator from the 14th District (1961-1967)
United States Congressman from Georgia's 3rd District (1967-1971)
76th Governor of Georgia (1971-1975)
14th United States Secretary of Defense (1977-1979)
1st United States Secretary of Energy (1979-?)

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« Reply #794 on: November 13, 2011, 10:58:28 AM »

It was pure accident that so many Treasury Secretaries be Michigan Republicans, and also that every Treasury Secretary be Republican. I didn't know McNamara was a Republican until after he'd been made Treasury Secretary. Tongue
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« Reply #795 on: November 13, 2011, 06:19:02 PM »

How ironic that Jimmy Carter will be working for the Reagan administration.
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« Reply #796 on: November 13, 2011, 06:29:48 PM »

The Cabinet of President-Election Ronald Reagan (Pt. 3)

Ambassador to the United Nations

George H. W. Bush (R-TX)
Congressman from Texas' 7th District (1967-1971)
United States Senator from Texas (1971-1973)
41st Vice-President of the United States of America (1973-1974)
38th President of the United States of America (1974-1977)
President of the International Council on Foreign Relations (1978-1981)

“By 1980, George, having left behind any hint that he might run for President that year, had become akin to Nixon: The President that had gone down to a Kennedy, yet had been able to recuperate his reputation and become known as a master statesman. Working for the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, he already practically lived in the state and taking the job of Ambassador to the U. N. would be no big move. He had hardly even visited Texas since the primary season ended and had spent Fall in Kennebunkport fishing.

It has oft been rumored that Agnew had wanted Nixon to be his Ambassador to the U. N. Nixon, a supporter of Angew after the abortive 1972 primary campaign for the nomination, had by then recuperated his reputation as well. However, as the legend goes, Nixon had no desire to be officially subservient to any man, even the President. Choosing to stake out his position as an unofficial advisor of Republican Presidents, he served in that position under both Spiro and George, having been one of the chief advisors, along with Kissinger and Rockefeller, for the 1974 visit to China.

However, George would end up in a much more public role. Agreeing to the position of Ambassador to the United Nations, he would be America’s diplomat to the world, second only to the President and the Secretary of State, who were both at the time concentrated much more on policy than negotiations. Making his official residence in New York City, George’s reputation as a diplomat—having served on the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, heading Agnew’s foreign policy, being the first President to recognize Red China, and his work heading the International Council of Foreign Relations—had garnered him respect in the international community. During Reagan’s Presidency he would become known as “the world’s preferred President”, though that would change shortly after Reagan’s reign.”
-What the Man was Made of, James Baker, © 1999

National Security Advisor

John Eisenhower (R-NY)
White House Chief of Staff (1961-1965)
United States Secretary of the Army (1973-1974)
13th United States Secretary of Defense (1974-1977)

“Joining the foreign policy team of the Reagan White House would be John Eisenhower. George’s Secretary of Defense after Goldwater begged to be allowed to resign, Eisenhower had been the chief conductor of the Palestinian War in its first two years as well as head of efforts to re-suit American troops to fight in various types of terrain and various different environments. The scion of the late President Eisenhower, John was no great public speaker nor any sort of politician. However, as Eisenhower’s son and an American military leader he was popular with the American people and with the media, his name reminding the country of simpler times. His experience with Palestine as well as with re-constructing the army would prove useful to Reagan and his successor as American military might would need to be restructured and reformed to be successful. Difficulties in Vietnam and Palestine—despite victories—had demonstrated that.”
-What the Man was Made of, James Baker, ©1999

Secretary of the Navy

James Stockdale (I-CA)

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Special Advisor to the President

Patrick J. Buchanan (R-VA)
White House Communications Director (1973-1974)
Special Assistant to the President (1974-1975)

“Fresh off the campaign trail and the 1980 victory, it seemed no surprise to me that I would be called back to work under the President. I was still feeling guilt from the 1972 primaries, primaries that Reagan had won and yet had been denied at the convention. Accompanying the President-Elect back to his home on election night, I made the passing comment “If we’d been able to win in 1972, we’d be nowhere near our current mess.” “Don’t worry about it” the Gipper told me. “We, and you especially tried the best we could have. It was thanks to Nixon and Rockefeller and all the rest. Don’t worry about it.”

Coming back into the White House, this time as an advisor as opposed to Communications Director or Assistant, there was something much different about. Under Agnew, there was always this feeling of playing dirty, of fighting for every inch, whatever it was. This feeling of constantly being attacked. Under Bush, it was much different. A feeling of despair mostly. Of coming off Agnew’s resignation already behind in the race—what race, I don’t know, most likely the Presidency—and merely just trying the best to play a fair and honest game. Under Reagan and his successor, there was a much better feeling. Even in the worst of times, even after the despair of 1981, there was always this feeling of hope, of pushing forward, of fighting a winning battle. This year, however, Republicans seem to have lost that hope.”
-Right From the Beginning, Patrick J. Buchanan, ©1988

White House Chief of Staff

Edwin Meese (R-CA)

“Meese, Reagan’s long-time assistant and Chief of Staff during his days in the Senate and his official legal adviser from 1978 to 1980, encompassing his Governorship and his Presidential run, was perhaps the chief leader of the California gang. Others were of course Caspar Weinberger at Treasury and William J. Casey and Bill Clark as advisors. A man who would later be rebuked by the party as against the grain reached the height of his power during the Reagan Presidency. He would find the loss of it a devastation and his party’s rejection of what he viewed as Reagan’s wishes worse.”
-Republicans in Revolution, Bob Woodward, ©2007
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« Reply #797 on: November 13, 2011, 06:30:11 PM »

How ironic that Jimmy Carter will be working for the Reagan administration.

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« Reply #798 on: November 13, 2011, 11:55:49 PM »

1960

Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador to the United Nations Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 270 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX); 248 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular votes
Unpledged Electors; 13 electoral votes; .5% of the popular vote

1964

Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Governor Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes, 43.7% of the popular vote
President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Vice-President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 212 electoral votes, 42.1% of the popular vote
Senator Strom Thurmond (DI-SC)/Governor Orville Faubus (DI-AR); 53 electoral votes, 14.5% of the popular vote

1968

President John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes; 43.9% of the popular vote
Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR); 212 electoral votes; 42.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor George Wallace (DI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (DI-CA); 53 electoral votes; 13.1% of the popular vote

1972

Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George HW Bush (R-TX); 278 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senate Minority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); 242 electoral votes, 46.1% of the popular vote
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 18 electoral votes; 4.7% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Libertarian, People's); 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

1976

Senator Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD); 281 electoral votes, 51.2% of the popular vote
President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Ronald Reagan (R-CA); 257 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Others; 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

1980

Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR) 332 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President George McGovern (D-SD) 178 electoral votes, 34.7% of the popular vote
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (FL-MN)/Senator Maurrce R. "Mike" Gravel (I/L-AK) 28 electoral votes, 14.2% of the popular vote
Others (Libertarian, Socialist) 0 electoral votes, .3% of the pouplar vote

Question: how did Schmitz come up with 18 electors if he won 16 according to the map? Did he win 2 electoral votes from 2 unfaithful electors?
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« Reply #799 on: November 14, 2011, 07:02:48 AM »

Yeah. Some electors in MS voted Sanford while some in LA voted Schmitz.
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