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Question: Should I go on?
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Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)
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« on: November 25, 2010, 11:50:05 PM »

This looks very interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 02:29:44 PM »

My head hurts. Too much time warping. I think it's the pelvic thrust that really drives me insane.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 06:29:05 PM »

Does anybody want to see the map for the Democratic Primaries before I move on and get done with the 1968 Presidential Election?

I'd want to see it Wink
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 07:49:07 PM »

I like flashbacks and flashforwards. Flashforwards are in particular, very cool for TLs.

I like them too when done properly. This timeline, unfortunately, did it too often and with poor execution, in my opinion. I originally thought that the first post was a "teaser" for 1968, and that the timeline would be mostly linear from then on (a concept which I rather liked).

In this timeline, however, the overuse of flashbacks and flashforwards led to two major drawbacks:

1.) It made the events much more difficult to follow, and
2.) It eliminated suspense. For example, after the initial post and the first few updates, we already knew:
    A.)Nixon won in 1960.
    B.)Kennedy defeated Nixon in 1964.
    C.)Kennedy was involved in close reelection campaign against George Romney in 1968, and
    D.)What the hot issues were in the 1968 campaign.
Most of the rest of the updates since then were only filler- we knew what the end results would be.

So, in conclusion, while I agree that flashbacks and flashforwards can be interesting to add to a timeline, the author must be judicious in their use.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 11:00:21 AM »


I have to agree with this. It seems that most Republicans ITTL do not share Reagan's opinion on the direction their party is going.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 01:08:24 PM »

July 3rd, 1969
Following the failure of the Saigon Act late last month, Senator Mike Gravel, now becoming a familiar face in the Senate after only half a year in office, has made headlines with his twenty hour filibuster in protest of Kennedy's actions in the Vietnam War, after which he collapsed onto his death in utter exhaustion. While longer filibusters have happened before, this does not mean that this specific filibuster is not significant. Gravel is expected to return to the Senate tomorrow, fully recovered.

I'm rather impressed that Gravel managed to return from the dead. Tongue I assume you meant "desk?"

Other than that minor detail, this is really good. (This qualifies as good usage of flash-forwards.) Keep it coming!
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 04:31:14 PM »

I am still enjoying this. Keep it coming!

As for candidates for 1972, I think you've covered most of the logical choices. Right now I see Sanford (as the VP and logical successor to Kennedy's legacy) and Reagan (as a vocal opponent of the Kennedy administration) as the frontrunners for their parties' nominations. Both candidates will certainly see challenges from the left, and the Dixiecrats will likely make an appearance as well.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 01:49:55 AM »

I'm still here! Or perhaps I should say I'm back.

This is very good. Keep it coming!
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2010, 04:54:35 PM »

This is still going strong. Keep it coming!
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 09:05:48 PM »

I predict Reagan wins the Republican nomination by dominating the midwest and west. On the Democratic side, Wallace has shown surprising strength, and I think it will come down to the wire, with Sanford eventually winning the nomination. Wallace may run as an Independent.

In the general, Reagan/Agnew defeats Sanford/Heston.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2010, 02:29:50 AM »

Any chance we can get delegate counts?
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2010, 01:53:36 PM »

Well, the primaries are done. I hope you're all happy. If anyone wants to help me with the delegate totals, I'd be glad to accept.

Any predictions or preferred candidates?

I'd help with the delegate counts, except that I don't know how to do it either.

I stand by my earlier prediction, but I can't be too confident about it. I do think the Republican, whoever it is, will win the general.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 02:14:48 AM »

This is a really awesome timeline. Update soon, please.
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