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Keystone Phil
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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Reply #50 on:
December 08, 2010, 02:58:43 am »
Quote from: px75 on December 08, 2010, 02:52:03 am
Politicians being afraid of the people doesn't mean they should be threatened with physical violence. There are other ways for the voters to show their disapproval and displeasure you know other than beating up or killing the elected officials with which they disagree.
Moving the goal posts again. I never said anything about physical violence. Neither did you. That doesn't mean they can't feel threatened.
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Uh, it was Christie's staff the put up the headline "Governor Rips Rude Guy".
Ok? Relevance?
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Yeah, because they are trying to actually, you know, govern instead of putting up shows for Red State posters and Club for growth donors.
Wrong again -> Ok, what do I do now? -> Definitely time to up the rhetoric!
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When Pete Stark starts doing the same antics I'll notify you.
Or any of the, oh, thousands of other politicians. I won't hold my breath.
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
And you're a f
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cking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
Landslide Lyndon
px75
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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Reply #51 on:
December 08, 2010, 03:06:52 am »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 08, 2010, 02:58:43 am
Quote from: px75 on December 08, 2010, 02:52:03 am
Politicians being afraid of the people doesn't mean they should be threatened with physical violence. There are other ways for the voters to show their disapproval and displeasure you know other than beating up or killing the elected officials with which they disagree.
Moving the goal posts again. I never said anything about physical violence. Neither did you. That doesn't mean they can't feel threatened.
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Uh, it was Christie's staff the put up the headline "Governor Rips Rude Guy".
Ok? Relevance?
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Yeah, because they are trying to actually, you know, govern instead of putting up shows for Red State posters and Club for growth donors.
Wrong again -> Ok, what do I do now? -> Definitely time to up the rhetoric!
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When Pete Stark starts doing the same antics I'll notify you.
Or any of the, oh, thousands of other politicians. I won't hold my breath.
1)Threatened how? That the citizen might have bad breath? That he might want to come close to steal their wallet?
I don't understand.
2)You said that Christie conversed with the guy but then his cronies upload the video using words like "Rips" and "Rude". So obviously they don't agree with your assessment that it was standard fare.
3)How am I wrong? These guys are low key and that's why you don't hear them in the news as frequently as a showman like Christie. Not because they are doing a worse job than him.
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Keystone Phil
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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December 08, 2010, 03:43:11 am »
Quote from: px75 on December 08, 2010, 03:06:52 am
1)Threatened how? That the citizen might have bad breath? That he might want to come close to steal their wallet?
I don't understand.
You can't bully someone with words. Isn't that what Christie's doing? That's what you find so outrageous here. And don't hide behind the State Trooper issue either. You've been complaining that he's a bully because of what he says way before that.
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2)You said that Christie conversed with the guy but then his cronies upload the video using words like "Rips" and "Rude". So obviously they don't agree with your assessment that it was standard fare.
You can't end up ripping a rude individual while conversing with them? What?
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3)How am I wrong? These guys are low key and that's why you don't hear them in the news as frequently as a showman like Christie. Not because they are doing a worse job than him.
Ok so they're low key. That means neither individual is as much of a player as Christie. Again, stop putting words in my mouth (I never said they are doing a worse job) and moving the goal posts. You change the story around so much that you forget your original point, which was that Daniels and McDonnell deserve to be considered "players" more so than Christie.
Daniels and McDonnell aren't real stars in the party. Christie is.
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
And you're a f
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cking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
Landslide Lyndon
px75
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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Reply #53 on:
December 08, 2010, 03:49:43 am »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 08, 2010, 03:43:11 am
Quote from: px75 on December 08, 2010, 03:06:52 am
1)Threatened how? That the citizen might have bad breath? That he might want to come close to steal their wallet?
I don't understand.
You can't bully someone with words. Isn't that what Christie's doing? That's what you find so outrageous here. And don't hide behind the State Trooper issue either. You've been complaining that he's a bully because of what he says way before that.
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2)You said that Christie conversed with the guy but then his cronies upload the video using words like "Rips" and "Rude". So obviously they don't agree with your assessment that it was standard fare.
You can't end up ripping a rude individual while conversing with them? What?
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3)How am I wrong? These guys are low key and that's why you don't hear them in the news as frequently as a showman like Christie. Not because they are doing a worse job than him.
Ok so they're low key. That means neither individual is as much of a player as Christie. Again, stop putting words in my mouth (I never said they are doing a worse job) and moving the goal posts. You change the story around so much that you forget your original point, which was that Daniels and McDonnell deserve to be considered "players" more so than Christie.
Daniels and McDonnell aren't real stars in the party. Christie is.
1)Except that the guy didn't bully Christie with his words. He respectfully disagreed and questioned the wisdom of his policies.
And as I mentioned, if you respect the politician and don't invade his personal matters then what's wrong with some tough questioning?
2)Again, you admitted that the guy wasn't "rude", so there was no need for him to be "ripped". Ripping someone for no reason means that you don't want to have a serious conversation, you're just looking for a fight.
3)Daniels and McDonnell are considered players, from what I read (especially the first one).
And being a star doesn't tell me much. After all, Sarah Palin is the biggest star in the Republican party.
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Bob Findley
: "You're a real dyed-in-the-wool son-of-a-bitch. Anyone ever told you that?"
Steve Everett
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Keystone Phil
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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Reply #54 on:
December 08, 2010, 03:55:21 am »
Quote from: px75 on December 08, 2010, 03:49:43 am
1)Except that the guy didn't bully Christie with his words. He respectfully disagreed and questioned the wisdom of his policies.
And as I mentioned, if you respect the politician and don't invade his personal matters then what's wrong with some tough questioning?
There's nothing wrong with tough questioning. I'm just explaining why he was escorted off the stage. He wasn't going to be able to do a back and forth with the Governor for the entire town hall.
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2)Again, you admitted that the guy wasn't "rude", so there was no need for him to be "ripped". Ripping someone for no reason means that you don't want to have a serious conversation, you're just looking for a fight.
"Ripping," in this sense, means that the Governor "made a point/proved the other guy was wrong." Any politician's staff would say that their boss did that. Please don't tell me you're outraged over the word choice.
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3)Daniels and McDonnell are considered players, from what I read (especially the first one).
Not really and definitely not as much as Christie. In fact, McDonnell was all anyone talked about after 2009 while Christie played second fiddle. The roles are clearly reversed now. You hardly ever hear about McDonnell.
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And being a star doesn't tell me much. After all, Sarah Palin is the biggest star in the Republican party.
Again, moving those goal posts...
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
And you're a f
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cking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
Keystone Phil
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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Reply #55 on:
December 08, 2010, 04:00:15 pm »
Px, you'll be happy to know that today's town hall was uneventful which was a bit of a disappointment but still very enjoyable.
Christie was very kind, too, so don't worry about consoling any traumatized New Jerseyans.
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
And you're a f
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cking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
Landslide Lyndon
px75
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Re: End of Honeymoon for Christie?
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Reply #56 on:
December 08, 2010, 04:04:41 pm »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 08, 2010, 04:00:15 pm
Px, you'll be happy to know that today's town hall was uneventful which was a bit of a disappointment but still very enjoyable.
Christie was very kind, too, so don't worry about consoling any traumatized New Jerseyans.
Well, I guess that's a bigger disappointment for his YouTube sycophants than me.
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Bob Findley
: "You're a real dyed-in-the-wool son-of-a-bitch. Anyone ever told you that?"
Steve Everett
: "Just close friends and family,"
Clint Eastwood's "True Crime", 1999.
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