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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: November 29, 2010, 01:58:51 PM »

Ouch!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/29/923953/-President-Gimmick

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So...instead of actually doing something real about "sky-high deficit spending" (like pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq ahead of schedule), we get a symbolic gesture that will reduce federal spending by less than 0.05 percent.

And with that symbolic gesture we witness President Obama's unfortunate alter-ego, President Gimmick. President Gimmick isn't serious about solving any of our problems, he's only serious about demonstrating his desire to solve our problems.

President Gimmick doesn't offer up plans designed to do anything, he only offers up plans designed to give him zingers for his 2012 debates.

If President Gimmick actually cared about governance, we'd have a comprehensive fiscal plan. Instead, we're getting cheap applauses lines. You think announcing a federal pay freeze represents toughness? Ha!

Confronted with the choice between making the tough decision to defend federal spending during a recession or to develop a plan to actually slash spending, President Gimmick takes a third way: pretending to do something. In the process, he concedes that he believes his critics are right on the merits, but far from signaling strength, he signals that he's too weak to do anything serious about it.

The worst thing about President Gimmick isn't that he plays politics, though. The worst thing about President Gimmick is that he's not very good at it.

Let's hope it doesn't take President Obama long to realize that President Gimmick isn't going to do him or the nation any good. And then he -- and we -- can put President Gimmick back in the closet, where he belongs.



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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 02:08:11 PM »

It's time to primary this moron.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 02:23:43 PM »

Blame Bush for this....Obama did:

Because of the irresponsibility of the past decade, the President inherited a $1.3 trillion projected deficit upon taking office and an economic crisis that threatened to put the nation into a second Great Depression.........



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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 03:17:12 PM »

Obama is the best Republican operative that the GOP ever put in office.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 03:26:12 PM »

I don't really know why Obama wants to lose re-election, but he's sure doing a good job of that achieving that goal.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 04:02:54 PM »

I don't really know why Obama wants to lose re-election, but he's sure doing a good job of that achieving that goal.

And he seems to want to take the rest of the Party down with him.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 01:31:46 AM »

How about a pay freeze on our corporate overlords? No? Well, then, carry on, Mr. President.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 01:40:12 AM »

How about a pay freeze on our corporate overlords?

OMG!!!!
SOCIALISM!!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 02:07:46 AM »

Come on, primary challenge.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 02:09:02 AM »

Not terribly surprised by this, but very disappointing nonetheless.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 08:58:44 AM »
« Edited: November 30, 2010, 09:00:40 AM by The Greatest (Grumpy) Forumer Ever!! »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 01:00:44 PM »

Obama clearly believes that individuals don't know how to best spend their own money, and so now he's just extending that logic to federal employees. but he'll still keep spending money on unproven stimulus projects.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 01:31:13 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

If Obama were to lose a primary challenge, do you think blacks would even bother to show up in November?
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2010, 06:45:53 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 06:53:34 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2010, 06:56:18 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.

I'm not even sure people care much about left or right. Actually, it might not hurt him at all. People want the feeling that he's "getting something done". I'm really not sure the average person really cares what, though.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2010, 08:09:01 PM »



No. I'd rather have a gimmicky President than a horrible one. Primarying Obama will get us a GOP landslide.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2010, 09:15:13 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.

I'm not even sure people care much about left or right. Actually, it might not hurt him at all. People want the feeling that he's "getting something done". I'm really not sure the average person really cares what, though.

Uh... they do. Philosophy does matter to people.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2010, 09:17:50 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.

I'm not even sure people care much about left or right. Actually, it might not hurt him at all. People want the feeling that he's "getting something done". I'm really not sure the average person really cares what, though.

Uh... they do. Philosophy does matter to people.

But not the majority.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2010, 09:23:30 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.

I'm not even sure people care much about left or right. Actually, it might not hurt him at all. People want the feeling that he's "getting something done". I'm really not sure the average person really cares what, though.

Uh... they do. Philosophy does matter to people.

But not the majority.

You don't know that. The US is filled with ideologues.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2010, 09:26:59 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.

I'm not even sure people care much about left or right. Actually, it might not hurt him at all. People want the feeling that he's "getting something done". I'm really not sure the average person really cares what, though.

Uh... they do. Philosophy does matter to people.

But not the majority.

You don't know that. The US is filled with ideologues.

But the ideologues cancel each other out. Each party is going to get the same 45% of the electorate it always gets. It's the squishy, personality driven 10% that couldn't tell the mideast from the midwest that will decide the election.
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2010, 09:34:17 PM »


I would think you'd be against it, unless you think Obama is a stronger candidate than everyone in the potential Democrat field.

I'm for it because it would force Obama to run even further left, irritating the General electorate even more.

I'm not even sure people care much about left or right. Actually, it might not hurt him at all. People want the feeling that he's "getting something done". I'm really not sure the average person really cares what, though.

Uh... they do. Philosophy does matter to people.

But not the majority.

You don't know that. The US is filled with ideologues.

But the ideologues cancel each other out. Each party is going to get the same 45% of the electorate it always gets. It's the squishy, personality driven 10% that couldn't tell the mideast from the midwest that will decide the election.
That is not what I was arguing. Also, there are people in the middle who 'settle.' It does not mean philosophy doesn't mean jack to them.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2010, 10:36:50 PM »

As Sam would say, be patient. We will find out what Obama's intentions are, when negotiations with the GOP get hot and heavy. The government cannot function, without some agreement on certain key issues, or we will get a shutdown. This should be a fascinating exercise to observe from the sidelines.
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2010, 10:39:21 PM »

As Sam would say, be patient. We will find out what Obama's intentions are, when negotiations with the GOP get hot and heavy. The government cannot function, without some agreement on certain key issues, or we will get a shutdown. This should be a fascinating exercise to observe from the sidelines.

My prediction.

Obama: "I have adopted all of your positions now"
Republicans: "That is unacceptable Those are our positions from last year. We moved further to the right since then. This meeting is over"
Obama "Waaaaaah!"
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2010, 10:44:54 PM »

As Sam would say, be patient. We will find out what Obama's intentions are, when negotiations with the GOP get hot and heavy. The government cannot function, without some agreement on certain key issues, or we will get a shutdown. This should be a fascinating exercise to observe from the sidelines.

My prediction.

Obama: "I have adopted all of your positions now"
Republicans: "That is unacceptable Those are our positions from last year. We moved further to the right since then. This meeting is over"
Obama "Waaaaaah!"


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