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« on: November 29, 2010, 02:47:37 PM »
« edited: November 29, 2010, 02:49:12 PM by Mr. Morden »

PPP national poll:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_1129.pdf

Obama 48%
Huckabee 45%

Obama 51%
Palin 42%

Obama 49%
Gingrich 43%

Obama 47%
Romney 46%

Obama 48%
Rubio 37%

3-way race with Bloomberg:

Obama 44%
Romney 38%
Bloomberg 11%

"Do you think Sarah Palin could defeat Barack Obama if she ran for president in 2012?"
28% say yes
60% say no

(Among Republicans, 48% say yes, 37% say no.)
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 02:54:13 PM »

It's a shame Rubio didn't run for the Senate in 2006...
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 02:56:09 PM »

It's a shame Rubio didn't run for the Senate in 2006...

You think he could beat Saint Katherine Harris?
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 03:04:02 PM »

It's a shame Rubio didn't run for the Senate in 2006...

You think he could beat Saint Katherine Harris?

Yeah but I was crazy enough to think Rubio could beat Crist in the 2010 primary. Silly me.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 03:13:34 PM »

It's a shame Rubio didn't run for the Senate in 2006...

You think he could beat Saint Katherine Harris?

Yeah but I was crazy enough to think Rubio could beat Crist in the 2010 primary. Silly me.  Wink

Yeah, but Crist was a RINO while Harris was a heroine of the conservative movement.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 03:37:05 PM »

It's a shame Rubio didn't run for the Senate in 2006...

You think he could beat Saint Katherine Harris?

Yeah but I was crazy enough to think Rubio could beat Crist in the 2010 primary. Silly me.  Wink

Yeah, but Crist was a RINO while Harris was a heroine of the conservative movement.

We see how Harris folds when faced with a real campaign.

It really doesn't matter. I can settle for a President Rubio in 2020 after two terms of President Santorum or Christie.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 03:37:50 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 03:45:32 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 03:47:32 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

It was 2006. The Republicans didn't pick up any Senate seats for a reason. Nelson may have looked vulnerable just like Burr did or how Rand Paul looked like a lousy candidate.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 03:48:39 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

The wave was too strong. Perhaps Rubio could make it close but in the end he would lose, like Sestak this year.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 03:54:14 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

The wave was too strong. Perhaps Rubio could make it close but in the end he would lose, like Sestak this year.

I doubt Rubio would've even made it close considering he didn't even break 50% this year even after Crist completely collapsed amongst Republicans.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 04:05:59 PM »

I give Phil his accolades for his idea that Marco Rubio would be the next Senator from Florida. Over a year ago, during our epic New York City trip, I remember aggravating Phil with the notion that Crist had the deal sealed, and Rubio was dead in the water. Needless to say, winds prevailed in a different direction and the tide turned.

I just used so many damn metaphors I forgot what we were talking about.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 04:10:47 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

It was 2006. The Republicans didn't pick up any Senate seats for a reason.

And yet Tom Kean only lost by what? Eight points? That was in New Jersey. In 2006. And that would have been a pick up.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 04:20:08 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

It was 2006. The Republicans didn't pick up any Senate seats for a reason.

And yet Tom Kean only lost by what? Eight points? That was in New Jersey. In 2006. And that would have been a pick up.

Because Menendez was scandal-ridden. And yet he still did worse than Bush did in 2004.
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 04:20:57 PM »

1. Superchunk!
2. Rubio winning a GOP primary where his opponent hugged Obama (easy) is not the same as winning a general in a Democratic wave.
3. Rubio elected in 2006 would have already voted for the bailout and other things that would have made him no more appealing to the GOP base than Thune is now.  His present popularity owes largely to his upsetting a "RINO".  Had he won in 2006, he'd be polling single digits for 2012.
4. I agree he's a likely VP pick.  I wouldn't mind it at all.  He's un-frightening.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 04:21:33 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

It was 2006. The Republicans didn't pick up any Senate seats for a reason.

And yet Tom Kean only lost by what? Eight points? That was in New Jersey. In 2006. And that would have been a pick up.

Because Menendez was scandal-ridden. And yet he still did worse than Bush did in 2004.

And Nelson's ratings were weak in a swing state. My point is that you can't say with near certainty what would happen.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 04:25:46 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

It was 2006. The Republicans didn't pick up any Senate seats for a reason.

And yet Tom Kean only lost by what? Eight points? That was in New Jersey. In 2006. And that would have been a pick up.

Because Menendez was scandal-ridden. And yet he still did worse than Bush did in 2004.

Fun fact: Christie was the US attorney who opened the investigation on Menendez just 60 days before the 2006 election and then leaked the investigation to the press.
I'm sure it was all a big coincidence.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2010, 04:26:32 PM »

Even if Rubio beat Harris he'd still lose the general in 2006 anyway.

Nelson was vulnerable so to say with confidence that Rubio would lose is...well...typical for you/idiotic.

It was 2006. The Republicans didn't pick up any Senate seats for a reason.

And yet Tom Kean only lost by what? Eight points? That was in New Jersey. In 2006. And that would have been a pick up.

Because Menendez was scandal-ridden. And yet he still did worse than Bush did in 2004.

And Nelson's ratings were weak in a swing state. My point is that you can't say with near certainty what would happen.

Just like Burr was this year in other words.
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2010, 04:37:33 PM »


2010  was more of a wave than 2006 was in Democratic areas and Rubio is a far stronger candidate than Elaine Marshall. In other words, your comparison was a total joke.
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2010, 04:38:36 PM »


Fun fact: Christie was the US attorney who opened the investigation on Menendez just 60 days before the 2006 election and then leaked the investigation to the press.
I'm sure it was all a big coincidence.

Awww. So bitter.
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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2010, 04:42:57 PM »


Fun fact: Christie was the US attorney who opened the investigation on Menendez just 60 days before the 2006 election and then leaked the investigation to the press.
I'm sure it was all a big coincidence.

Awww. So bitter.

Uhh...
Menendez won.

And you didn't say anything about the substance.
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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2010, 04:45:20 PM »


Fun fact: Christie was the US attorney who opened the investigation on Menendez just 60 days before the 2006 election and then leaked the investigation to the press.
I'm sure it was all a big coincidence.

Awww. So bitter.

Uhh...
Menendez won.

Bitter about Christie.

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2010, 04:51:38 PM »


2010 was more of a wave than 2006 was in Democratic areas and Rubio is a far stronger candidate than Elaine Marshall. In other words, your comparison was a total joke.

Rubio couldn't even break 50% despite Crist collapsing amongst Republicans. He is not some savior-type candidate which is exactly what the GOP would've needed in 2006 (like for example Hoeven could've been). Can't you just admit Nelson would've been heavily favored?
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2010, 05:00:25 PM »


2010 was more of a wave than 2006 was in Democratic areas and Rubio is a far stronger candidate than Elaine Marshall. In other words, your comparison was a total joke.

Rubio couldn't even break 50% despite Crist collapsing amongst Republicans. He is not some savior-type candidate which is exactly what the GOP would've needed in 2006 (like for example Hoeven could've been). Can't you just admit Nelson would've been heavily favored?

Heavily favored? No. 2006 wasn't a 2010.

Crist might have collapsed amongst Republicans but he was still on the ballot and there are still enough Moderate Heroes out there. Amazing how in a three person race, you have to spin it that 49% isn't good enough for Rubio.
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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2010, 05:06:02 PM »

It's not like it matters anyway, the past is the past, but Democrats ran remarkably well everywhere in 2006, Nelson would have won against Rubio, probably by less than he won against Harris, but a win none the less.

In 2010, most of the Florida electorate voted for someone else other than Rubio, which isn't exactly a ringing mandate.
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