McCain 53 / Hillary 37 says Opinion Dynamics 08 Poll
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The Vorlon
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« on: November 18, 2004, 02:53:03 PM »

2008 Presidential Preference:

John McCain 53%
Hillary Clinton 37%


Ok.... it may be a bit early to start tracking this....
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2004, 02:54:49 PM »

McCain seems unlikely to win a Republican primary.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2004, 02:57:36 PM »

The election has been over for all of 16 days and already we get a new poll for 2008.

GIVE IT A REST, PEOPLE!!
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2004, 03:26:50 PM »

I'm sure Zogby's 2008 daily tracking poll will start up soon.

Any state polls for 2008 yet, Vorlon? :-)

It'll actually be somewhat interesting to see which poll ends up being the absolute first state poll for 2008. Kind of an honor.

Also, what's the all time record for the earliest before an election that a poll has ever been conducted for that election? Any idea Vorlon?
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2004, 03:38:56 PM »

Hillary won't run
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2004, 03:50:00 PM »

McCain won't run. Sure he's popular but let's be realisitic...he won't be running for President again.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2004, 03:55:41 PM »


McCain's age and health would severely limit his ability to run in 2008.  There is a greater chance that George Allen will run than McCain.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2004, 04:49:48 PM »

McCain could certainly win a Republican primary.  He's pro-life and that's pivotal.  He's not my ideal choice, but we can,t always get what we want.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2004, 09:29:32 PM »

A Democrat vs. Republican poll would be cool, off-season or otherwise.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2004, 10:24:55 PM »

McCain won't run. Sure he's popular but let's be realisitic...he won't be running for President again.

for once we agree. A 72 year old with skin cancer doesn't strike me as a prime candidate to launch a campaign.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2004, 10:14:23 AM »

Some other match-ups listed:

Giuliani 49
Clinton 38

McCain 50
Kerry 38

Giuliani 49
Kerry 41

Giuliani 50
Edwards 38
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2004, 10:43:06 AM »


Too early? No way!  We waited until the election was over and certified. We don't need to wait until the EC. That would be madness.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2004, 12:42:58 PM »

how long before Reaganfan starts arguing these polls actually matter one iota?
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2004, 07:23:18 AM »

It's way too soon to take these polls seriously.

I don't think McCain can really be a serious candidate because of his age.  I do think that if not for that, he would beat the s**t out of Hillary.

Giuliani would also beat the daylights out of her if he could get the nomination.  But he's been married 3 times, cheated on his wife, had a nasty public divorce, etc.  This type of stuff wouldn't play well with a Republican constituency, so I don't know if he could get the nomination.  But if the worst happens and Hillary looks viable, Republicans may swallow their objections to all that and support him if he looks like the best bet to beat her.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2004, 09:35:52 AM »

I guess the Republican's most be having a bit of a honeymoon - but I think it's far too early to read anything into such polls

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2004, 12:45:56 PM »

how long before Reaganfan starts arguing these polls actually matter one iota?

Three seconds
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2004, 01:53:18 PM »

Tradesports has Giuliani and McCain favored to take the GOP nomination (followed by Frist and Owens) and Clinton is far and away the leader to take the Democratic nomination (Bayh a very distant second). 

They have the race for the White House virtually tied, with the Democrats slightly favored 50-49.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2004, 03:15:27 PM »

Trederick's "Lucky" method is probably more accurate than any polls or TS at this moment, especially considering NOT A SINGLE CANDIDATE HAS ANNOUNCED.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2004, 04:04:49 PM »

Well, other than the fact that Bill Frist has done everything but announce his candidacy, you're basically right.

But we're election junkies.  We need something to satisfy our craving..
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2004, 05:45:58 PM »

McCain in 2008 would be one year younger than Reagan in 1984. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2004, 11:00:41 PM »

Tradesports has Giuliani and McCain favored to take the GOP nomination (followed by Frist and Owens) and Clinton is far and away the leader to take the Democratic nomination (Bayh a very distant second). 

They have the race for the White House virtually tied, with the Democrats slightly favored 50-49.

Can you sell short on Tradesports?  Giuliani has no chance for the nomination.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2004, 07:44:46 AM »

That Giuliani beats Edwards so resoundingly is a sign of the small probablity of Edwards running. If he can't do good in polls now, it's hard to see why he would in 4 years.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2004, 09:14:12 AM »

McCain could certainly win a Republican primary.  He's pro-life and that's pivotal.  He's not my ideal choice, but we can,t always get what we want.

Wrong on both counts.

First, in 2000 McCain lost every primary which was restricted to registered Republicans.

Second, McCain's position on abortion changes depending upon his audience.  The pro-life forces is my states despise the SOB.

Finally, the only people who find McCain to be an 'ideal' choice are those who supported Kerry this year.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2004, 10:00:45 AM »

[quote author=Whacker77 link=topic=12869.msg281159#msg281159

First, in 2000 McCain lost every primary which was restricted to registered Republicans.



I don't think this is true.  I believe McCain won the Republican primary in Connecticut, and it is restricted to registered Republicans.  I believe this is also true of other New England states.

It is more common in the south and west to have open primaries, and these were won by Bush.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2004, 08:59:24 PM »

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I think if you look back you will find that independents were allowed to vote in those primaries.
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