UDL Convention, December '10 (Official business complete.)

[Marokai Backbeat]

When do you need it counted by

We can just end voting now and have you count right away, since Xahar tipped the Presidential election in favor of Dr. Cynic, there's nothing worth waiting for now.

[MaxQue]

Quota : 4

Count 1
Kalwejt : 6 (Antonio V, Franken, Dr. Cynic, hawkeye59, albaleman, Thomas D)
HappyWarrior : 6 (realisticidealist, HappyWarrior, Purple State, Marokai, Kalwejt, agooji)
Sewer : 3 (Sewer, texasgurl, Teddy)
Al : 3 (EarlAW, ilikeverin, Winston Disraeli)
Hashemite : 2 (Hashemite, sbane)
Polnut : 1 (Polnut)
Belgiansocialist : 1 (belgiansocialist)
Kalwejt and HappyWarrior are elected.

Count 2
Kalwejt : 4
HappyWarrior : 4
Sewer : 3.33 (Sewer, texasgurl, Teddy, Thomas D)
Al : 3.33 (EarlAW, ilikeverin, Winston Disraeli, agooji)
Hashemite : 3 (Hashemite, sbane, Antonio V, Purple State, Marokai)
Polnut : 2.67 (Polnut, Dr. Cynic, hawkeye59, albaleman, realisticidealist, HappyWarrior)
Belgiansocialist : 1.67 (belgiansocialist, Franken, Kalwejt)
Belgiansocialist is eliminated.

Count 3
Kalwejt : 4
HappyWarrior : 4
Sewer : 4.33 (Sewer, texasgurl, Teddy, belgiansocialist, Thomas D)
Hashemite : 3.67 (Hashemite, sbane, Antonio V, Purple State, Marokai, Kalwejt, Franken)
Al : 3.33 (EarlAW, ilikeverin, Winston Disraeli, agooji)
Polnut : 2.67 (Polnut, Dr. Cynic, hawkeye59, albaleman, realisticidealist, HappyWarrior)
Sewer is elected
Hashemite and Al are elected without a quota, as the 0.33 votes surplus of Sewer is not enough for filling the 0.67 vote gap between Al and Polnut.

[Marokai Backbeat]

The wonderful Quebecois intellect of the party, everyone.

Alright, thanks to Max, we actually know the council now. (Voting is now over.)

Kalwejt,
HappyWarrior,
Sewer Socialist,
Hashemite,
Al.

Due to Xahar's tiebreaking vote, Dr. Cynic is now President of the UDL.

The council should now meet and elect the Party chairman. I'll crate a new thread for them to do their work there.


Also, I'm really really sorry to Polnut. He deserves a position in this party, as he's been one of the most vocal voices moving us along and was with us in the beginning hours. I would implore the new Council to elect Polnut to be chairman of the party.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I think we have a great team shaping up!

[Marokai Backbeat]

I think we have a great team shaping up!

And very balanced too, I'm really happy it turned out that way.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The wonderful Quebecois intellect of the party, everyone.

Alright, thanks to Max, we actually know the council now. (Voting is now over.)

Kalwejt,
HappyWarrior,
Sewer Socialist,
Hashemite,
Al.

Due to Xahar's tiebreaking vote, Dr. Cynic is now President of the UDL.

The council should now meet and elect the Party chairman. I'll crate a new thread for them to do their work there.


Also, I'm really really sorry to Polnut. He deserves a position in this party, as he's been one of the most vocal voices moving us along and was with us in the beginning hours. I would implore the new Council to elect Polnut to be chairman of the party.

Thanks, while I'd be happy to serve in whatever way I'm wanted, I'm happy to respect whatever the newly elected council decides.

[Dr. Cynic]

I thank everyone who voted for me! Thank you to Purple State for being more than worthy of an "opponent"... Thanks to Xahar for choosing me with his tiebreaking vote.

I'd ask the council choose Polnut to be chairman. He's worked very hard for the party and will no doubt do so in the future.

[Marokai Backbeat]

In the interest of expediency, I'd like to hold confirmation votes on our current unofficial color(s) and logo. If there's a majority no vote, then we will have a full-blown debate on what our logo and color(s) should be, if people approve of the current choices, then we will continue on with them officially on the books.

(Vote will be open for 24 hours.)


1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[ ] Yes
[ ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

[Marokai Backbeat]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[ ] Yes
[X] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[X] Yes
[ ] No


I think Orange-Red is a great color and a unique combination for an Atlasian party. I'm all for it.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[ ] Yes
[ x ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[ x ] Yes
[ ] No

[MaxQue]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[X] Yes
[ ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[X] Yes
[ ] No

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Are we not even debating a logo? Looking at alternatives? This seems like a awful unethical way to go about things.

[Dr. Cynic]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[ ] Yes
[X] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[X] Yes
[ ] No

I voted no on the logo to give an oppertunity for those who want to offer an alternative to do so.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Are we not even debating a logo? Looking at alternatives? This seems like a awful unethical way to go about things.

I'm just doing it out of expediency. If people vote no then we can look for alternatives for the logo. I'm perfectly fine with that. I just don't want to spend too much time on loose ends when there's an election right around the corner.

If you'd like to look for or make some alternatives while the vote is happening, I don't see a problem with it.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

For starters:



And that does not even begin to address this... flower... that nobody knows what it is. (Ideally we can know what kind of flower we are using, for all we know this breed is called an assflower)

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

As for the flower, my preference is this:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQ_iLap3qhkzZ3NzgtAT_dB_OdvkE8jNyr6MVj6cIWeWb1c0IS

but I'd be willing to settle for almost any of these:
LINK CUT AS IT WAS TOO LONG
or these:
LINK CUT AS IT WAS TOO LONG

[Marokai Backbeat]

As for the flower, my preference is this:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQ_iLap3qhkzZ3NzgtAT_dB_OdvkE8jNyr6MVj6cIWeWb1c0IS

but I'd be willing to settle for almost any of these:
LINK CUT AS IT WAS TOO LONG
or these:
LINK CUT AS IT WAS TOO LONG

I quite like the shape of this one: http://coloringpagesforkids.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rose%20coloring%20pages%202.jpg

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I really don't like the fist rose thing... I REALLY like whatever that symbol is that Antonio has in his campaign banner... I prefer something that's more of a representation of the flower, rather than ... look, here's a flower...

Plus... I think the red-rose is far too closely attached to the labor/socialist parties... not everyone in this party affiliates themselves with the traditional labor movement... I like the idea of keeping ... an homage... but also showing a broader range.

PS - I'm changing my vote on the logo.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I really don't like the fist rose thing... I REALLY like whatever that symbol is that Antonio has in his campaign banner... I prefer something that's more of a representation of the flower, rather than ... look, here's a flower...

Plus... I think the red-rose is far too closely attached to the labor/socialist parties... not everyone in this party affiliates themselves with the traditional labor movement... I like the idea of keeping ... an homage... but also showing a broader range.

PS - I'm changing my vote on the logo.

Noted about the vote change. And yeah, I think a red rose is pretty cliche. I love the symbol personally, but we are the "broad left" afterall, and not everyone may agree with the symbolism of the rose.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I could back Blue's suggestion, and, I also like what Antonio has.

I'm just immensely frustrated that something Al admitted was "thrown together quickly" became the "more holy than the bible" logo, just because he was online to post at the right time.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I could back Blue's suggestion, and, I also like what Antonio has.

I'm just immensely frustrated that something Al admitted was "thrown together quickly" became the "more holy than the bible" logo, just because he was online to post at the right time.

I swear that I didn't mean for it to turn out that way, we've just been operating under "express" mode in our convention, since we had so much business to deal with with very little time.

I do like Antonio's logo. It's a rose, but in an unconventional form, so it's not necessarily taken as a "Socialist/Labor rose" and more of a modern symbol, but still recognizable on some level as that to those that share that sympathy.

I don't really know how Antonio put together that logo, but if there was some way we could incorporate that into a new logo, or something similar to it, that'd be cool with me.

[Antonio the Sixth]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[  ] Yes
[  ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[X] Yes
[ ] No


I abstain on the logo vote. Nothing against the logo itself, but I think it's worth a debate as some people suggested. The symbol in my banner is the logo of the Norwegian Labour Party, FYI. As for the design, you can thank Hashemite.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Then I guess we'll have to whip Hashemite into making us a new logo.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[  ] Yes
[  ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[X] Yes
[ ] No

This is my vote as well

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

 Also, Ireland's Labour Party has a nice rose-thing we could nab.