Teabaggers are so in touch with the public!

[So the Heroes Fall]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/29/most-support-dadt-end-but_n_789122.html

[Free Palestine]

58% of adults favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly

Yeah, so out of touch.

[Joe Republic]

58% of adults favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly

Yeah, so out of touch.

That's all adults.  Among teabaggers it's only 38%.

Always helps to RTFA, you know.

[Free Palestine]

58% of adults favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly

Yeah, so out of touch.

That's all adults.  Among teabaggers it's only 38%.

Always helps to RTFA, you know.

I know.

[Joe Republic]

So you're saying that a 20-point deficit between teabaggers and normal people is not a sign of them being out of touch?  (I assumed your initial statement was sarcastic.  That's your usual delivery.)

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

The Tea Party isn't taking a stance on the issue.  People who call themselves members of the Tea Party may be opposed, but the Tea Party organizations aren't exactly focusing on DADT.

[Joe Republic]

The Tea Party isn't taking a stance on the issue.  People who call themselves members of the Tea Party may be opposed, but the Tea Party organizations aren't exactly focusing on DADT.

Nobody in this thread, the article, or the Pew poll has thus far claimed otherwise.

[Vasall des Midas]

So you're saying that a 20-point deficit between teabaggers and normal people is not a sign of them being out of touch? 

20 points difference on a politicized issue is not a lot. This thread has been such a disappointment.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

The Tea Party isn't taking a stance on the issue.  People who call themselves members of the Tea Party may be opposed, but the Tea Party organizations aren't exactly focusing on DADT.

Nobody in this thread, the article, or the Pew poll has thus far claimed otherwise.

I know... just a preemptive note.

[crypto-fascist superhero]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

[Free Palestine]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

[Jbrase]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

As well as a larger percentage of Democrats are pro-choice than the general public.

[Gustaf]

A 20% difference isn't really a lot. It'd be strange, in a two-party system, if people in one party shared the views of the average voter.

[cinyc]

Because we all know that gay issues are the only ones the American public really cares about.  And they are the most important priority, ahead of the economy, jobs, taxes, the deficit and everything else.

[dialectical fetishist]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

Umm, it's the right wing who usually support conscription

[Jbrase]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

Umm, it's the right wing who usually support conscription

Most cases I can think of its more often the left supporting conscription. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR (started the first peacetime draft), LBJ.

Here are a few other countries with conscription:
Bolivia
Moldova
China
Russia
Venezuela
Pretty much all of N. Africa
Brazil
Vietnam

There are some right-wing countries that use conscription, but they are in the minority. 

[Frink]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

Umm, it's the right wing who usually support conscription

Most cases I can think of its more often the left supporting conscription. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR (started the first peacetime draft), LBJ.

Here are a few other countries with conscription:
Bolivia
Moldova
China
Russia
Venezuela
Pretty much all of N. Africa
Brazil
Vietnam

There are some right-wing countries that use conscription, but they are in the minority. 

Who includes Lincoln or Wilson on the "left wing"? Or most of Northern Africa, Brazil, or Russia for that matter.

[Jbrase]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

Umm, it's the right wing who usually support conscription

Most cases I can think of its more often the left supporting conscription. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR (started the first peacetime draft), LBJ.

Here are a few other countries with conscription:
Bolivia
Moldova
China
Russia
Venezuela
Pretty much all of N. Africa
Brazil
Vietnam

There are some right-wing countries that use conscription, but they are in the minority. 

Who includes Lincoln or Wilson on the "left wing"? Or most of Northern Africa, Brazil, or Russia for that matter.

Ok, ignore the others for a moment, please explain how Wilson was right-wing? And please do not just say because he was racist.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

And there's an even greater gulf between Democratic partisans and the general public on affirmative action.  Your point?

As well as a greater rift between hard-left progressives -- like the kind who support slavery mandatory national service -- and the public.

Umm, it's the right wing who usually support conscription

Most cases I can think of its more often the left supporting conscription. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR (started the first peacetime draft), LBJ.

Here are a few other countries with conscription:
Bolivia
Moldova
China
Russia
Venezuela
Pretty much all of N. Africa
Brazil
Vietnam

There are some right-wing countries that use conscription, but they are in the minority. 

Who includes Lincoln or Wilson on the "left wing"? Or most of Northern Africa, Brazil, or Russia for that matter.

Ok, ignore the others for a moment, please explain how Wilson was right-wing? And please do not just say because he was racist.

He might not be "right wing" but he's certainly not "left wing".

[Frink]

Ok, ignore the others for a moment, please explain how Wilson was right-wing? And please do not just say because he was racist.

Wilson was both an enemy of the radical left and a conciliator to it at the same time. A staunch social conservative and a stark raving populist at the same time.

I wouldn't call him right-wing either, since I don't subscribe to the popular version of the right-left bit of fun, but its really just a question of what sort of model for the right-left dichotomy you are using. The typical one in use by rightists today ignores too much of the actual origins of the dichotomy.

[Free Palestine]

Uh...most people who support conscription in the US tend to be economic leftists.

[State Comptroller Atkins]

Uh...most people who support conscription in the US tend to be economic leftists.

Protip: If you're going to make such an incredibly subjective claim like that, please at least provide some details and/or evidence to back it up. If you want some advice, PM me.

[Free Palestine]

Uh...most people who support conscription in the US tend to be economic leftists.

Protip: If you're going to make such an incredibly subjective claim like that, please at least provide some details and/or evidence to back it up. If you want some advice, PM me.

Rahm Emmanuel, Charles Rangel, Internet liberals?

[Sewer]

Internet liberals?

Cite?

[State Comptroller Atkins]

Uh...most people who support conscription in the US tend to be economic leftists.

Protip: If you're going to make such an incredibly subjective claim like that, please at least provide some details and/or evidence to back it up. If you want some advice, PM me.

Rahm Emmanuel, Charles Rangel, Internet liberals?

I'm an economic leftist, and I disagree with all of those on at least 60% of economic issues.