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Question: Party affiliation / Will you vote for her?
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« on: November 18, 2004, 04:01:53 PM »

This, to me, would be like the GOP nominating Alan Keyes for president. I'd be forced to vote Democrat, or at least third party.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2004, 04:26:54 PM »

 I dont think she will run, and If she does i really dont think she will win. The First Woman President will be a Republican. And after 2006 she will not even have a seat in the senate.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2004, 04:46:56 PM »

She'll get re-elected to the Senate.

I'd vote for her, but it would be useless. She'd get killed.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2004, 05:20:38 PM »

She'll get re-elected to the Senate.

I'd vote for her, but it would be useless. She'd get killed.
agreed.  although I must say I disagree with the Alan Keyes comparison above.  Policy-wise she's MUCH more mainstream than Keyes.  Likability-wise, she's not electable. 

I also think she'll easily win reelection to the senate in 2006.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2004, 05:40:10 PM »

Is there any item of federal spending that Hillary Clinton has ever voted against?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2004, 05:44:33 PM »

She may run but she will not be nominated.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2004, 06:04:29 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2004, 06:08:44 PM by Alcon »

I might vote for her. It depends on the Republican and what the climate is like in 2008.

I would campaign against her like hell in the primaries.

By the way, apparently Republicans would never possibly vote for her - your poll has no such option. I doubt that there aren't any that would.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2004, 06:29:40 PM »

I'm sure there's someone out there somewhere in the country, but no Republican on this message board would vote for her.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2004, 07:45:26 PM »

My Republican mother didn't care for either Bush or Kerry in this past election.  In the end she decided to vote for Kerry as if he had won, Hillary couldn't have run until at least 2012.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2004, 08:55:44 PM »

If who she is running against? I would probably vote for her.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2004, 09:18:38 PM »

I wouldn't vote for Hillary no matter who was running against her.  I got a very bad vibe from Hillary the first time I ever laid eyes on her in 1992.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2004, 10:52:38 PM »

Shouldn’t she be barred from the Presidency by term limits?
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2004, 11:05:10 PM »

I'd vote for her, but it'd honestly just be because of Minnesota's Democratic-voting streak.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2004, 01:45:28 AM »

Don't Submit to Peer Pressure, BRTD!


I won't be voting for her in '06--which will marginally contribute to her not running in '08.

And if she does run in '08, well I'm certainly not voting for her then either.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2004, 04:29:15 AM »

I dont think she will run, and If she does i really dont think she will win. The First Woman President will be a Republican. And after 2006 she will not even have a seat in the senate.

I bet you money she wins re-election in 2006.
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2004, 05:02:10 AM »

I dont think she will run, and If she does i really dont think she will win. The First Woman President will be a Republican. And after 2006 she will not even have a seat in the senate.

I bet you money she wins re-election in 2006.

Depends who she is running against.  If it is another sacrificial lamb like Howard Mills, Rick Lazio or Bernadette Castro I would not go near that action.  If the horribly run New York State G.O.P. can field a candidate with a pulse-i.e. Powell or Rudy then your on.Smiley 
Side note: I don't know why Pataki is mentioned among some Republicans for 2008.  I think he is presiding over a dying NY G.O.P..  The party is getting slaughtered and it is all on Pataki's watch.  The only reason Pataki is still in office is because the Democrats have been fielding weak candidates against him.
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2004, 05:32:56 AM »

I dont think she will run, and If she does i really dont think she will win. The First Woman President will be a Republican. And after 2006 she will not even have a seat in the senate.

I bet you money she wins re-election in 2006.

Depends who she is running against.  If it is another sacrificial lamb like Howard Mills, Rick Lazio or Bernadette Castro I would not go near that action.  If the horribly run New York State G.O.P. can field a candidate with a pulse-i.e. Powell or Rudy then your on.Smiley 
Side note: I don't know why Pataki is mentioned among some Republicans for 2008.  I think he is presiding over a dying NY G.O.P..  The party is getting slaughtered and it is all on Pataki's watch.  The only reason Pataki is still in office is because the Democrats have been fielding weak candidates against him.

Pataki would be crushed. Rudy would make it interesting before he loses.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2004, 05:46:27 AM »

I dont think she will run, and If she does i really dont think she will win. The First Woman President will be a Republican. And after 2006 she will not even have a seat in the senate.

I bet you money she wins re-election in 2006.

Depends who she is running against.  If it is another sacrificial lamb like Howard Mills, Rick Lazio or Bernadette Castro I would not go near that action.  If the horribly run New York State G.O.P. can field a candidate with a pulse-i.e. Powell or Rudy then your on.Smiley 
Side note: I don't know why Pataki is mentioned among some Republicans for 2008.  I think he is presiding over a dying NY G.O.P..  The party is getting slaughtered and it is all on Pataki's watch.  The only reason Pataki is still in office is because the Democrats have been fielding weak candidates against him.

Pataki would be crushed. Rudy would make it interesting before he loses.

Pataki v. Hilary would be close.  I think Clinton would pull it out because I think a lot of New Yorkers are getting tired of Pataki.  I would be willing to bet everything I own that Rudy G would beat Hilary.  Reasoning:  Rudy is almost revered as a saint in the suburbs and he would crush Clinton there.  He would also be able to hold down Hilary's margin of victory in NYC.  White ethnics- Irish, Italian Greek Russian etc etc would go for Rudy overwhelmingly.  He would also  cut into a good deal of the Latino vote.  Rudy is also well liked in the Jewish community. Asian vote would also split.  Upstate, where the dems have been gaining, would still go for Rudy by a good margin.  Hilary would not be able to overwhelmingly carry NYC which is how Democrats win in close elections in NYS.
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2004, 10:18:29 AM »

Patrick: what's the chances of Powell running?
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2004, 10:31:26 AM »

Patrick: what's the chances of Powell running?

I don't see it happening.  There were some rumblings in the local papers but it is all speculation and wishful thinking among anti-Hillary people. Powell is like what 67 years old and he'd be 69 by the time the race goes and 75 at the end of a term.  I just don't Powell or his wife especially like politics.  I think he writes a book or goes on the speaking circuit.  Basically relaxes and makes some real cash.  The one factor that could possibly bring him to run is that he would not want to be remember for the UN thing.  I am not confident about 2006.  There are no real rising stars or people with name recognition save Rudy.  New York G.O.P. is in a sorry state of affairs.  Bloomberg is a RINO and Pataki has oversaw the loss of state senate seats and in the legislature.  I am trying to rack ,y brain for some viable candidates but am drawing a blank.  The Howard Mills candidacy was an absolute joke.  I didnt even vote for the guy. I went Conservative party.  I know your not a fan of Hilary either so I will keep my thinking cap on.
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2004, 10:42:00 AM »

If I were a Democrat (shudder), it would depend on who she was running against. Rudy or McCain would probably get my vote over her.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2004, 10:54:20 AM »

Patrick: what's the chances of Powell running?

I don't see it happening.  There were some rumblings in the local papers but it is all speculation and wishful thinking among anti-Hillary people. Powell is like what 67 years old and he'd be 69 by the time the race goes and 75 at the end of a term.  I just don't Powell or his wife especially like politics.  I think he writes a book or goes on the speaking circuit.  Basically relaxes and makes some real cash.  The one factor that could possibly bring him to run is that he would not want to be remember for the UN thing.  I am not confident about 2006.  There are no real rising stars or people with name recognition save Rudy.  New York G.O.P. is in a sorry state of affairs.  Bloomberg is a RINO and Pataki has oversaw the loss of state senate seats and in the legislature.  I am trying to rack ,y brain for some viable candidates but am drawing a blank.  The Howard Mills candidacy was an absolute joke.  I didnt even vote for the guy. I went Conservative party.  I know your not a fan of Hilary either so I will keep my thinking cap on.

Hmm... how likely is a certain former mayor of NYC to run then?
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2004, 11:18:11 AM »

Patrick: what's the chances of Powell running?

I don't see it happening.  There were some rumblings in the local papers but it is all speculation and wishful thinking among anti-Hillary people. Powell is like what 67 years old and he'd be 69 by the time the race goes and 75 at the end of a term.  I just don't Powell or his wife especially like politics.  I think he writes a book or goes on the speaking circuit.  Basically relaxes and makes some real cash.  The one factor that could possibly bring him to run is that he would not want to be remember for the UN thing.  I am not confident about 2006.  There are no real rising stars or people with name recognition save Rudy.  New York G.O.P. is in a sorry state of affairs.  Bloomberg is a RINO and Pataki has oversaw the loss of state senate seats and in the legislature.  I am trying to rack ,y brain for some viable candidates but am drawing a blank.  The Howard Mills candidacy was an absolute joke.  I didnt even vote for the guy. I went Conservative party.  I know your not a fan of Hilary either so I will keep my thinking cap on.

Hmm... how likely is a certain former mayor of NYC to run then?



Well he health is good this time and he would be able to raise a ridiculous amount of money.  There is certainly nothing to preclude him from running other than his own ambition.  Does he want the big chair in 2008 or will he settle for a Senate run in 2006? I don't really know. Kind of a zero sum situation. I couldn't possibly see him doing both.  Even R.F.K. waited 4 years.  I think he should run for the Senate in 2006.  As popular as he is he is just not conservative enough to win in the most G.O.P. primaries and if he lurches too far right he will be tagged with the infamous flip flop. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2004, 11:45:58 AM »

Another reason that Rudy should run for the Senate in 2006 as I stated above are that I don't think he can win the nomination.  Some of the "family values" activists in the party would not be pleased to find out some things about Giuliani.  He was married for fourteen years to a woman named Regina- his second cousin.  After all those years married he had the marriage annulled on grounds they were to closely related.  Not one of Rudy's finer moments IMO.  He then married Donna Hanover and while mayor he was screwing his press secretary- worst kept secret in town.
He is now very happily married to Judi Nathan.  I could care less who he shagged but this type of stuff could hurt him.  Not to mention that he is pro choice, gun control and gay nups.  Im breaking out my draft Rudy for 06 stickers now.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2004, 11:56:21 AM »

Another reason that Rudy should run for the Senate in 2006 as I stated above are that I don't think he can win the nomination.  Some of the "family values" activists in the party would not be pleased to find out some things about Giuliani.  He was married for fourteen years to a woman named Regina- his second cousin.  After all those years married he had the marriage annulled on grounds they were to closely related.  Not one of Rudy's finer moments IMO.  He then married Donna Hanover and while mayor he was screwing his press secretary- worst kept secret in town.
He is now very happily married to Judi Nathan.  I could care less who he shagged but this type of stuff could hurt him.  Not to mention that he is pro choice, gun control and gay nups.  Im breaking out my draft Rudy for 06 stickers now.

Hmm... I don't see that sort of stuff playing well in all those Sunbelty Suburbs...
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